Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
So, according to you the fear of a nuclear WWIII is irrelevant. And you're telling me to grow up? It sounds to me like you're lost in machismo posturing.
And you want America to take "the boldest possible steps to assist the Ukrainian people". Well, bombing every Russian convoy in Ukraine to hell would be pretty bold - but it seems that you imagine Putin would just fold at that point and do nothing in response. I suggest you re-think that fond imagining, and instead imagine Russian missile strikes on the airbases from which those bombers took off from. And then what?
You also say that Biden should "have at least warned him through private channels that if he uses chemical or biological weapons, we will respond militarily". Well, if it's a private warning, how do you know that he hasn't already done that? The answer is you don't.
It's not really opening - because only Federal Loan Bonds will be open for trading, not stocks and shares.
Irrelevant? Are you serious?
Mean him personally or any other internet random freaking out at Putin's bluff. All he has to do is say the word 'nuclear' and we stand by and watch the rape.
I think you are mixing up the VDV with Rosgvardiya here.
The VDV is the Russian airborne forces and one of the Russian armys spearhead forces. They where at least before this conflict seen as one of the elite forces of the Russian army.
The Rosgvardiya or the national guard of Russia is on the other hand an internal force reporting directly to Putin and separeted from the army. They are basically a more heavy equipped police force.
You do realise he has over 6000 nuclear warheads and you want to go all Rambo to see if he will or won't let the missiles fly? Ludicrously big gamble with the costs of failure potentially then end of civilisation as we know it.
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No one mentioned going Rambo, that's just your daft reactionary characterisation. Look again at that graphic, and see what Ukrainians and other voices are suggesting could be done to pressure Putin more.
You think the western world is working at the very limits of what's advisably possible as a response, that there's no more it could do without Putin incinerating the globe? It's a fallacious point of view forever defended with that "Do you want WWIII??" used if you suggest we could be doing more...
I'm all for helping Ukraine but direct NATA military intervention in Ukraine is well and truly going Rambo and could well push Putin to use nukes especially as we would presumably wipe the floor with them quite quickly. No matter what how can Russia having nukes be irrelevant?
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Put your money in Russian agri stocks, they're going to suddenly have "Western" agricultural techniques
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This former Australian diplomat, Tony Kevin, I suspect, has been bought off.
US/NATO needs to Bomb Kremlin soon!
And Tony Kevin and others that support Putin in this should be shipped to Ukraine or put in prison as soon as possible.
And Tony Kevin and others that support Putin in this should be shipped to Ukraine or put in prison as soon as possible.
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I won’t buy anything remotely Russian I’m the next year or so.
Might short some though
so has the stock market opened yet?
No. Government bond trading only from 10am London time. They've started a closed pre auction and the price has dropped 10% in that.
I haven't seen any news on when the actual stock market will reopen.
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Hows the war going?
No idea why you would even think that...
Sounds like a dictator
Rolf Harris is satisfied according to independent Russian media
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Source?
I don't know the exact context of this and what those parties are like but the UK didn't have an election for 10 years from 35 to 45 during WW2.
Not particularly unusual for some kind of martial law to come into place when your country's existence is put into question.
Isn’t it parties with Russian links?
Also, who thinks the BBC, ITN, Channel 4 and Sky News would all be able to do four separate simulcasts of rolling news if Britain was invaded? I’d fully expect and support them being forced to pool their resources to keep people informed in that situation.
It's pro-Russian ideologies parties, not necessarily linked. Hardly surprising of course, given the circumstances.
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The AP reporting from Mariupol has been incredible.
Putin started to push his neighbours around over ten years ago, no one really pushed backed, certainly not NATO, so he has carried on. The inability to knock out Ukraine quickly will only probably make Putin more determined, especially if he is in his own 'bubble' and is listening only to himself.
It looks increasingly likely that if NATO and the West are not willing to risk a bigger /wider confrontation, not so much direct nuclear war, but something that would or could move swiftly to it through one mistake, then the only way Putin will be stopped is by his own people. This will take time to occur and the suffering in the Ukraine would continue.
One thing for certain the world will never quite look the same as it did before this madness began!
It looks increasingly likely that if NATO and the West are not willing to risk a bigger /wider confrontation, not so much direct nuclear war, but something that would or could move swiftly to it through one mistake, then the only way Putin will be stopped is by his own people. This will take time to occur and the suffering in the Ukraine would continue.
One thing for certain the world will never quite look the same as it did before this madness began!
Has anyone seen @harms here lately? Is he OK?
He lives in Ukraine?
Well if things continue that way, he might soon.
In Russia
eep, I’ma stay out of harms’ way
Russians are apparently digging into their positions, building trenches where they can't advance like in Kyiv.
I think Putin is attacking in the West, even ineffectively, to keep anyone else's troops from entering the country and holding the Western half of Ukraine, which could have been easily done weeks ago.
I also think Russia is desperate to make sure no one else helps Ukraine with men, thus the nuclear threats. What if Russia did launch a tactical nuke at, say, Australian troops that showed up to help? Worldwide condemnation? If so it would be worth it (if anything can be said to be worth the lives of soldiers), to turn China against them, it could end the war. I mean if tactical nukes are so clever why not use them against Ukraine? Talk about psychological warfare, it would surely be very effective at terrorising Ukrainians and getting them to flee.
I think the truth is he won't use them, unless someone invades Russia which is never happening.
I think Putin is attacking in the West, even ineffectively, to keep anyone else's troops from entering the country and holding the Western half of Ukraine, which could have been easily done weeks ago.
I also think Russia is desperate to make sure no one else helps Ukraine with men, thus the nuclear threats. What if Russia did launch a tactical nuke at, say, Australian troops that showed up to help? Worldwide condemnation? If so it would be worth it (if anything can be said to be worth the lives of soldiers), to turn China against them, it could end the war. I mean if tactical nukes are so clever why not use them against Ukraine? Talk about psychological warfare, it would surely be very effective at terrorising Ukrainians and getting them to flee.
I think the truth is he won't use them, unless someone invades Russia which is never happening.