If one country can out-manufacture 30 countries, we have a big problem
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Yeah can't manufacture decent modern helmets, can't get the supply lines in a neighboring country to maintain the forces on the front line, can't find men and has to resort to conscription, can't build any industrial good that is of any relevance to the wider world, but suddenly Russia is a ammunition manufacturing genius.
Is this shite coming from the Merkel advisors again?
Dude must think it's 1945 in that 2nd tweet.
Out-manufacture what? The Russians are not even capable of repairing their tanks and other hardware already in action for starters.
reports in Germany saying that Poland withheld information which has now come to the fore....... the rocket that landed in Poland they are saying was fired by Ukraine and it sounds like it wasn't fired to intercept a Russian rocket.
Sounds about right from German intelligence...
He's summarizing what officials told him.
The report is of info coming out of Poland.
Which makes it even more likely to be true of course.
Officials telling him must think it’s 1945
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Iryna and Joe Place who fled the war in Ukraine for Britain, have decided to move back to the war-torn country due to costs and conditions in the UK's housing market. (Image: PA Media)
https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/couple-who-fled-war-ukraine-7806791
Amazing.
Oh Britain...
Iryna and Joe Place who fled the war in Ukraine for Britain, have decided to move back to the war-torn country due to costs and conditions in the UK's housing market. (Image: PA Media)
https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/couple-who-fled-war-ukraine-7806791
Amazing.
We now own 8 rental properties in Western Ukraine. Here’s how we did it
You have to suspect that they will start cutting corners soon regarding maintenance.
Good thing Russia has such a robust manufacturing sector, this problem should be licked in no time.
Iryna and Joe Place who fled the war in Ukraine for Britain, have decided to move back to the war-torn country due to costs and conditions in the UK's housing market. (Image: PA Media)
https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/couple-who-fled-war-ukraine-7806791
Amazing.
Do you have a source for that?
And the source they quote is:
"According to the Gazeta Wyborcza newspaper , there is clear evidence that the bullet came from the arsenal of the Ukrainian army."
"According to the Gazeta Wyborcza newspaper , there is clear evidence that the bullet came from the arsenal of the Ukrainian army."
But it's an c-300 what other reason for it to be launched other to intercept something ??
It’s stupid source that doesn’t even know that Ukrainian S300 doesn’t have surface to surface capabilities like modified Russian ones. In short it’s total nonsense that you can disregard for some sort of propaganda bs. If it was Ukrainian S300 and not Russian missile it was launched to intercept it. Also Ukrainian S300 missiles is programmed to self destruct after failing to intercept its target thus it must have been a faulty one then.
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It's pretty clear at this stage that it was a Ukrainian S-300 that overflew it's target and landed in Poland but your claim that it was a missile that was fired for some other reason than to intercept a Russian cruise missile is very confusing.
Nothing in the link you posted suggests anything of the sort and I have not seen claimes like that anywhere else besides from some concpiracy nutcases on Twitter.
What you are suggesting is that it was some sort of Ukrainian false flag operation to start WW3?
Also for those wondering how Russia can out manufacture west:
Basically through the lack of planning…Those spares parts should have been ordered as soon as the decision was made to supply these…Tweet
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but were met with “terrible” housing conditions, high costs and rental requirements they could not meet.
Iryna and Joe Place who fled the war in Ukraine for Britain, have decided to move back to the war-torn country due to costs and conditions in the UK's housing market. (Image: PA Media)
https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/couple-who-fled-war-ukraine-7806791
Amazing.
Sounds about right for Nottingham
I meant the bolded part. If they mean this Wyborcza article, then it claims that the most likely scenario was that Ukrainian side fired 2 or 3 anti-air missiles at a Russian missile targeting nearby power plant, one of them hit the target while one of the others missed and didn't self-destruct as it was supposed to. I didn't see anything in this or in their other coverage suggesting that it was likely it was used outside of air-defense context.
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Some of the responses to your post are a bit passive aggressive. And I really don’t understand what you’ve written to offend anyone.
Ukraine is usually rated as the 1st or 2nd most corrupt nation in Europe, along with Russia. Politically both are capable of doing whatever it takes to get people on their side.
I have no opinion on the missile but I find both the irrational need to accuse ukraine of doing it intentionally or the irrational need to get hostile to any suggestion or implication that they might have weird. The side that didn’t start the war is still capable of doing bad things. This goes for every war in history. War isn’t a superhero movie with hero and villain where the bad guy is purely bad and good guy is purely good.
Things I’m certain a lot of people are not aware.
Andrea Rocchelli: Italian Journalist murdered by Ukrainian soldiers in 2014 in Donbas.
Kateryna Handziuk: anti corruption journalist murdered by acid in 2018.
Our hearts are with the Ukrainian people, but our minds shouldn’t be blinded into thinking the government is on some moral pedestal.
So rather than actually address the fact that that specific report the guy mentioned appears to be bollocks you've decided to pull up some broadly unrelated stories from years ago? Makes sense.
Based on what does it appear to be bollocks, Your view of the Ukrainian government and military being morally superior to that of every other government and military on earth?
The fact that the missile was fired from Ukraine was on sky news the night of the attack/accident. No one knows why & how a possibly Ukrainian missile got fired into Poland from Ukraine. The people speculating are doing so with their own bias. Whether it’s “clearly ukraine are trying to start WW3” to “well it’s obviously air defence gone wrong and the missile went haywire”
You’ve also had the President of the USA and Poland address it but those that didn’t hear what they wanted to hear then started talking about “why are they talking like that” “why are they speaking weird” When really what they said was pretty clear.
I have one request. Would you kindly feck off? Thank you.
It's pretty telling that those are the "extremes" that you're positioning yourself in the enlightened centre of. You didn't address his concern, which was the fact that the source Dans linked apparently at no point claimed that it probably wasn't anti-air. Hence the "passive aggressive", "offended" comments that so offended you.
He just said “the source is bullocks”. You’re saying “apparently at no point claimed that it probably wasn't anti-air” which if I interpret that correctly is pretty much what I’ve said “ no one knows why or how”
And the German source possibly misrepresented the original unremarkable Polish story too. Which is relevant because there appears to still be some apologist sentiment in high places in Germany.
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He didn't say the source was bollocks, he said the report (that "it sounds like it wasn't fired to intercept a Russian rocket") was bollocks, which it appears that it was. Because the source linked says no such thing, as far as I can tell. You're just winding him up, trying to create an argument where none exists.
Honestly. Im not trying to wind up anyone. I have not told anyone to feck off or sent abusive DM’s to anyone but guess who’s been on the receiving end of those things?
As for source/report pretty much everyone has been using those words interchangeably since Dans post (the one I quoted and replied too) I didn’t see his initial post until scrolling now. So if he wrote things in his initial post that were not in the article then he deserves to get called out. But I can’t read the language that he linked so don’t know.
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