Point was always taken. Just rejected thereafter.
That's because you still don't understand my point. The only reason why I remain to the discussion because I know you still misinterpreted my point. Otherwise, I would have agree and disagree here.
You believe that a more rounded striker was better than a goalscoring one, whereas the majority seem to believe that Ruud's superiority in the box more than made up for his lack of silky skills on the ball. Role, schmole. There are all kinds of players and one type isn't necessarily better than others. For example Makelele would be picked ahead of many "all round" CMs by most clubs simply because of how exceptional he was at his role.
This where you misinterpreted my point.
No, that's not always the case, I never believe such a thing.
Let me give you good example. Tevez is more rounded striker than Ruud but I rated Ruud much higher than Tevez. If Tevez plays in either role, I don't think he would guarantee to produce the same outcome as Ruud playing as a poacher role. RVP is on the other hand would produce the same quality and outcome if he plays in either role. This is why RVP's case is different to any other all rounded striker. Not all of "them" are better than the poacher one.
Your point about Makelele doesn't strengthen your point, it's actually strengthen my point It doesn't make him the best midfielder despite of him being exception at his role. I said it before that Ruud was the most clinical finisher, I have been acknowledge his strength being exceptional at his role.
Look, I'm not the one who is obsessed on factor. You seem to keep going on about RVPs terrible team mates but are contradicted by the fact that RVP was actually luckier to be part of the team in a more free scoring season as a whole. So he gained despite supposedly suffering and still scored less goals. Presumably because he misses lots of changes. Goals aren't everything. Considering everything, RVN was easily better IMO.
Look, you were the one who started with these factor things. Anyway, let's take that out of discussion now.
Clearly you don't understand my point. The terrible team mates is just a reference of how we played differently in 12/13 & 02/03 season. My point to use it as reference is that to give you an idea that RVP can play in any type of striker role and can still produce the same or similar outcome. While if Ruud plays in different role, I don't believe it will play his strength and he won't produce the same or similar outcome.
Point taken now finally?