He's not. His defensive game is non existent from what I've seen.
Makes sense if we buy Amrabat as well, but then why did we buy Mount?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Makes sense if we buy Amrabat as well, but then why did we buy Mount?
Why did we buy Mount? Why did we buy Mount
The (former) Pogba comparisons are quite fitting I think, not only because of their body.
He has good ball control, is fast and can play good passes in the final 3rd.
Think of a less flashly and not nearly as good Pogba and you probably have a good impression.
When he joined us, he was labeled as a 6 or 8, i'd say he is a 8 or 10. His defensive skills are not good enough for a big team and league to be a 6.
His biggest problem seems to be his mentality.
Instead of giving everything to take the few chances he got, he mostly looks and acts like he doesn't care much. Instead he goes to the press and complains about his lack of game time.
I wouldn't be mad if he leaves, if we get a fair amount of money for him.
But i also wouldn't be surprised if Klopp turned him into the next Pogba
Which version of Pogba though?The (former) Pogba comparisons are quite fitting I think, not only because of their body.
He has good ball control, is fast and can play good passes in the final 3rd.
Think of a less flashly and not nearly as good Pogba and you probably have a good impression.
When he joined us, he was labeled as a 6 or 8, i'd say he is a 8 or 10. His defensive skills are not good enough for a big team and league to be a 6.
His biggest problem seems to be his mentality.
Instead of giving everything to take the few chances he got, he mostly looks and acts like he doesn't care much. Instead he goes to the press and complains about his lack of game time.
I wouldn't be mad if he leaves, if we get a fair amount of money for him.
But i also wouldn't be surprised if Klopp turned him into the next Pogba
Thanks for the info.
He don’t look strong to me!! He’s far from a giant in stature.The (former) Pogba comparisons are quite fitting I think, not only because of their body.
He has good ball control, is fast and can play good passes in the final 3rd.
Think of a less flashly and not nearly as good Pogba and you probably have a good impression.
When he joined us, he was labeled as a 6 or 8, i'd say he is a 8 or 10. His defensive skills are not good enough for a big team and league to be a 6.
His biggest problem seems to be his mentality.
Instead of giving everything to take the few chances he got, he mostly looks and acts like he doesn't care much. Instead he goes to the press and complains about his lack of game time.
I wouldn't be mad if he leaves, if we get a fair amount of money for him.
But i also wouldn't be surprised if Klopp turned him into the next Pogba
Was hoping for a deadline day no nonsense bully in midfield to magically fall from the heavens and into our lap. He certainly isn't it. I just...don't understand our transfer dealings this window outside of Onana. Not trying to sound ignorant or anything, I just genuinely don't understand most of our decisions. Oh well. That's why I watch and don't coach/scout.
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Is he remotely combative and defensive?
Gravenberch isn't the possession oriented midfielder I would want in an ideal world but we do desperately need another option. If we can get him on a loan or cheap deal and correct the imbalance of the midfield then I wouldn't be against it.
It was obvious before we even signed him, to be fair. Playing him and Fernandes together in a midfield 3 is a suicide mission, and the two performances to start the season speak for themselves.
United need quality in the middle of the park so it make sense he's also young and has much to prove which is welcome. The main criticism that I hear is that he's lazy from some of the opinions of those who observed him in the bundesliga so it's not an issue of quality but temperament.
We need this guy along with Amrabat. All top 7/8 teams have midfielders that will run all over us. We need Kudus instead of Antony who has no right foot.
No brainer especially if it’s on loan and option to buy , then get in Amrabat desperate need of backup in the middle.
Bissouma and Sarr made our midfield basically non existent and one player won’t be enough.
Bissouma and Sarr made our midfield basically non existent and one player won’t be enough.
Seeing an awful lot about him being a lazy cnut. That’ll help our massively unfit team that’s been overrun two games running.
Least he’s played for Ajax and is Dutch, I suppose
Least he’s played for Ajax and is Dutch, I suppose
Not a DM and doesn't help Casemiro being solely in charge of that role. We would probably still need Amrabat.
Hopefully this is a loan with no obligation. Would be sensible. Anything else seems a bit knee jerk.
Hopefully this is a loan with no obligation. Would be sensible. Anything else seems a bit knee jerk.
We wont agree on this one.
Isn't he effective on the left of a midfield 3 ? Basically taking Mount's spot.
I get the need for another midfielder but for Christ sake let it actually be the right on/ one we need.
I get the need for another midfielder but for Christ sake let it actually be the right on/ one we need.
Another player he’s worked with…
Do we though? I'd have thought the last thing we need is another 8/10 hybrid with not much defensive nous and a questionable attitude. I simply don't see the point of this. Is Ten Hag going to have to try and adapt yet another attacking midfielder into a more disciplined 6/8 role?
Another midfielder of the profile we don’t need.
Sick of this ridiculous transfer policy. Can’t we just play Hannibal/Mainoo? I don’t think Gravenberch would add too much more.
Why can we not just get a strong ball playing midfielder, who does the basics right almost all the time and to a high level? It seems we are only interested in players capable of moments. Gravenberch is a talent - he can dribble and might do something in the final third. But I just want a midfielder that excels at the boring stuff for once. Must we only sign Ten Hag’s children?
Why can we not just get a strong ball playing midfielder, who does the basics right almost all the time and to a high level? It seems we are only interested in players capable of moments. Gravenberch is a talent - he can dribble and might do something in the final third. But I just want a midfielder that excels at the boring stuff for once. Must we only sign Ten Hag’s children?
If this is a move solely from ETH then just what the heck does he want from his United side ?
If this is true then I think this is the first signs that ETH has lost his grip on the situation and is getting desperate. To abandon his plan after 2 games would be a huge concession that he's got it wrong and wasted a load of money. And what's worse, millions of average joe football fans could have told him this.
He’s wanted another midfielder for 2 months.
No.
Cannot believe this one is true. Absolutely not what is needed.
makes sense since there isn’t much cover for Bruno or Mount in our formation, one injury means we have to change the entire thing.
Mainoo cover for Casemiro with Eriksen and this lad for the more attacking position and we have a good midfield coverage.
I’m sure the fans who talked themselves into Amrabat being the cure all for our problems won’t take this well though
Mainoo cover for Casemiro with Eriksen and this lad for the more attacking position and we have a good midfield coverage.
I’m sure the fans who talked themselves into Amrabat being the cure all for our problems won’t take this well though
There's been no mention of Gravenberch, seems like throwing enough shit at a wall and hoping something sticks. He's also a completely different profile to both Onana and Amrabat who we have also got an interest in. There just seems to be no plan.
I feel like all our managers post SAF have wanted a specific defensive midfielder and yet, when the TW opens, we instantly make big moves for offensive players.
The last thing we need is cover for Bruno and Mount.
I do not think he is good enough, best we wait for Mainoo to get back to fitness to play that backup role alongside Eriksen, we need a ready made DM to cover for and compete with Cas, hopefully we sign Amrabat.
Why on earth do we need cover for Bruno and Mount ?
It's not been 2 games mate, its having watched him for 3 years and knowing he was not what we needed.
He’s a different profile to Amrabat - not Onana. It was reported he tried to sign him on a free last summer and wanted him in January instead of Sabitzer - it isn’t throwing shit at the wall just because it wasn’t reported in the Mirror 3 weeks ago.
Then ETH must be crazy I guess. I wonder though in how many games have you seen him in action?
You think he's similar to Onana? So you think Gravenberch could cover Casemiro?
At least 50.
Scott McTominay it is then so.
Maybe because they both looked gassed after the first half of Spurs
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