You don't dispute we're top 5-6 in Europe, despite disputing it earlier in this thread...?
How can Juve be better than us without a DOUBT when we beat them twice last year, AND the fact that Italian teams usually lose to English teams?
Valencia isn't even in the CL....
And Bayern's record the last season and a half in the CL compared to ours is rubbish....
You'll now go on and say "yeah, but it's my opinion, and you United fans can't take it when people have a different opinion blah blah..."
It's not that you have a different opinion. It's when you come out with rubbish like Juve, Valencia etc are without a doubt better than you....
And you keep coming out with stupid statements that have no fundation to reality at all, as well as being proven wrong over and over again. You must get bored of it...