Sam Allardyce Everton Manager | Sacked | Reports: Marco Silva to replace him

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Bit harsh that they're sacking him. He's actually done a pretty decent job.
 

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Everton board have balls to sack him despite him steering them to safety. Our board would never have the bravery to do that.
 

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Marco Silva is the biggest fraud in world football.

Fully expect him to be sacked well before the season ends.
 

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Marco Silva...fecking hell the guy is a myth.

He’s done nothing in England (left hull after relegation and sacked at Watford) yet these teams all seem to be linked with him when the job becomes available. I don’t get how he’s always considered for these jobs.
 

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The supporters hate him it would take more bravery bringing him back.
Yeah, sacking Allardyce is the easy option here.

I don't mind Everton, quite like Silva too, but I'm going to find it funny if they were to start off like they did this season should he get the job. Kind of hope it happens actually.
 

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We sacked van Gaal 30 mins after winning the FA Cup :lol:
Yes but Van Gaal failed in his objective which was 1st to win the league and when that didn't materialize to get top 4 and CL football. The sacking was to be expected and probably should've come a lot sooner. Big Sam has achieved the target in the end which was bring the club to safety but not in the way Everton fans wanted or expected with the money that was spent.
 

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Everton board have balls to sack him despite him steering them to safety. Our board would never have the bravery to do that.
We replaced a coach who was in the process of winning the FA cup and had secured 'safety'. United will dump any coach who doesn't achieve their targets. Silly to make comments otherwise, as you'd be arguing against facts.
 

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Yes but Van Gaal failed in his objective which was 1st to win the league and when that didn't materialize to get top 4 and CL football. The sacking was to be expected and probably should've come a lot sooner. Big Sam has achieved the target in the end which was bring the club to safety but not in the way Everton fans wanted or expected with the money that was spent.
We replaced a coach who was in the process of winning the FA cup and had secured 'safety'. United will dump any coach who doesn't achieve their targets. Silly to make comments otherwise, as you'd be arguing against facts.
You have to consider that LVG was going into his last year of his 3 year contract and was not given any assurances of an extension. In addition, you had Mourinho available. LVG was the stop gap, everyone including himself knew it, just didn't know who was going to succeed LVG (it was never going to be Giggs). Mourinho was the logical and correct choice and United didn't want to feck around and made sure Mourinho was the man, given enough time, etc.

LVG being sacked for Mourinho shouldn't have been too big of a shock, the writing was on the wall the day after Mourinho was sacked at Chelsea. Regardless of his objectives not being met, they weren't in his second year, it was tough sledding for LVG after December. I was surprised the club didn't sack him there, but it proved to work out after the FA Cup victory (hindsight). Disappointing that LVG found out the way he did of his sacking and the fact that the papers the day of and the next day after the FA Cup Final was a mixed bag of LVG sacked, United win the FA Cup and Mourinho going to United.

With Everton, they have had such bad managerial appointments and a lack of realistic expectations since Moyes left. IN addition to their shite player recruitment the past 3 to five years
 

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Yes but Van Gaal failed in his objective which was 1st to win the league and when that didn't materialize to get top 4 and CL football. The sacking was to be expected and probably should've come a lot sooner. Big Sam has achieved the target in the end which was bring the club to safety but not in the way Everton fans wanted or expected with the money that was spent.
Maybe they wanted safety with more points and goals :wenger: ?
 

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Our style of play is like 1970 Brazil compared to Everton. We are quite dull, but from what I've seen of Everton it's another level.
 

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Yes but Van Gaal failed in his objective which was 1st to win the league and when that didn't materialize to get top 4 and CL football. The sacking was to be expected and probably should've come a lot sooner. Big Sam has achieved the target in the end which was bring the club to safety but not in the way Everton fans wanted or expected with the money that was spent.
Its' not difficult for Everton to be midtable. Lot of the problems prior to Allardyce appointment were due to mismanagement. Big Sam for all his faults can simply keep you stable atleast.

But they need a manager who can maximize resources and get more out of those players. Burnley's results this season (securing Europa) should be their target. As for pretty football, they don't have the personnel yet for that, need to buy some good players.

Silva is riding on his Hull reputation. I am not sure if the Everton approach was the reason he tanked at Watford, but there is a tiny bit of a risk involved with his appointment nonetheless.
 

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Bit harsh that they're sacking him. He's actually done a pretty decent job.
Not harsh at all. Similar to Moyes, both managers play tumescent football while their clubs have spent millions of pounds on good footballers. The bare minimum is to avoid relegation. Just because they've achieved that, does not mean they avoid the sack.
 

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Not harsh at all. Similar to Moyes, both managers play tumescent football while their clubs have spent millions of pounds on good footballers. The bare minimum is to avoid relegation. Just because they've achieved that, does not mean they avoid the sack.
Sam had the 6th best record in the league since he took over.
 

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Respect to Everton in seeing that arcane football is not the way forward. Sure you can consolidate your position, but if you're ambitious and you want to see your team playing better especially when your city rivals are tearing it up, this is the way to go. I LOVE this appointment for Marcos Silva. He's a guy with great potential and Everton is the perfect job for him.
 

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If you are a supporter of a club like Everton then you probably know you aren't going to challenge for the big trophies so you'd at least want to see your team have a go each week and entertain.
 

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Everton board have balls to sack him despite him steering them to safety. Our board would never have the bravery to do that.
You are using Billy Kenwright and that Moshiri guy as an example of good management?

The reason they are in this mess in the first place is because of them. Their scatter gun approach simply doesn't work.

Everton aren't a well run club. At all. Our management aren't idiots changing things at a whim because of some minor discontent while tangible progress is being made.
 

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Lol marcos silva. The guy is a fraud and everton is totally buying into this 'new breed of managers' :lol: . Expect it to end in tears like the hull and watford bottlejob.
 

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To paraphrase Jose Mourinho - Silva is a specialist in failure. I can see this only ending in tears for Everton.
 

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To paraphrase Jose Mourinho - Silva is a specialist in failure. I can see this only ending in tears for Everton.
And is Allardyce some kind of specialist in success? What has Allardyce actually won in the last 20 years he's been managing?
 

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If you are a supporter of a club like Everton then you probably know you aren't going to challenge for the big trophies so you'd at least want to see your team have a go each week and entertain.
It's not just that. You know with plodders like Allardyce/Moyes you're achieving feck all anyways - they had Moyes for 11 years. You'd much rather take a punt on a young upcoming manager with potential because he might just raise the club's ceiling - i.e. poch.

It's why spurs fecked off Harry and eventually landed on Poch.
 

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There is also the issue that every club that Allardyce has left has immediately went into the shitter as well. I don't see how you can be deemed good enough for Everton if you weren't up to it at Watford. By all means get rid of Big Sam and his robust playing style but don't replace with the Emperor's New Clothes.
 

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Marco Silva is top. Everton can’t realistically attract anyone better, anyway.
 

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I don't like Allardyce or Moyes, & the way they play football, but if I was West Ham & Everton I would be wary about the consequences. Silva's hardly a Guardiola/Klopp style manager.
 

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Silva is a fraud, it'll be funny if he is appointed after Allardyce making those remarks about him.
 

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Fat Sam should just go straight to Cardiff now. Give Warnock more time at his next Championship club too.
 

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It's the right decision to let him. He has taken them as far as he can and not going to take them any further. Not sure bout Silva though. Even without his problems in organizing defense, they have one of the slowest teams in the league and he'll struggle with this.
 

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I don't like Allardyce or Moyes, & the way they play football, but if I was West Ham & Everton I would be wary about the consequences. Silva's hardly a Guardiola/Klopp style manager.
Marco Silva did very good job at Watford before losing it (after Everton's interest). Don't think Everton will be relegated anyways, so why not go for someone like Marco Silva who might be very good hit and plays good football.
 

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I think the nail in the coffin for allardyce was when he said he has had a successful season. Maybe by allardyce standards, but not Everton standards. They are right to move him on, he’s done all he can and you’d be best not letting him get his grubby hands on the transfer kitty with all his dodgy dealings.

That being said, I know Marco silva was the main candidate before, I am very wary about what he will do. He’ll certainly play more entertaining football anyway.
 

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Transfer money spent since 2014:

Manchester City 781
Manchester United 596
Chelsea 565
Liverpool 443
Everton 358
Arsenal 315
Tottenham Hotspur 252
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(Burnley 112)

They should be way closer to top 6.

This has to be M Silva's last chance to prove himself in the PL, right? No mitigating circumstances this time.

Personally I'd rather see them give it to someone like Eddie Howe (though Bournemouth would be crazy to let him go).
 

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Marco Silva did very good job at Watford before losing it (after Everton's interest). Don't think Everton will be relegated anyways, so why not go for someone like Marco Silva who might be very good hit and plays good football.
Plays good football is a myth.

Hull City weren’t great to watch.

Watford were absolutely shambolic defensively. They even conceded 3 to Everton when Everton couldn’t score.