It's not just those tweets though, there's numerous tweets where he brings nationality into the equation for no reason. With that and his homophobia, it's hardly a surprise people aren't happy.
Samuel Luckhurst - Should he be fired?
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And how do you know you're a "better fan"? Because you're English or from Manchester?
I'm loath to defend twiggy but he's clearly taking the piss there.
You've changed your tune from yesterday. I thought all the anger was because he ruined a transfer story and we're all idiots?
Maybe you should look at the full story next time before commenting on something you were clueless about.
He appears to be taking the piss.
Or maybe, just maybe, he's changed his opinion slightly due to the debate?
That is allowed, it's the whole point of one.
That's fair but my issue was with people running into this thread to pass judgement on people who took issue with Luckhurst and calling us idiots. I've no problem with debate but I won't be patronised either
How has he changed his tune? He seems to be perceiving this whole thing the way I do. People are desperately looking for offence from old Luckhurst tweets because they're butt hurt about what he's said about transfers.
They're not, though. The easiest to identify are those with flags that say things like "New York City United Supporters", "Melbourne MUFC", "Dublin Reds", "Oslo Reds". If he had pointed to those and started shaking his finger talking about tourists, then so be it. But believe you me, those are hard targets, with strong voices and platforms that can be heard in reply. His choice of such a soft target was a poor decision, if his real concern is tourists vs locals.
Maybe he just hates Chinese people then?
Just as well those poor Chinese folk have so many brave souls willing to step up and e-battle on their behalf.
Not up for me to decide, nor am I frankly that interested, as somebody mentioned before - apparently this all about someone digging up an old controversial tweet because they're upset about but I'm not bothered to read through it all.
My personal take is that if this discussion is supposed be about tourists versus locals at OT then I support ticketing schemes that enhance the ability of local Mancs to be at OT. But if someone wants to set their sights on tourists at OT, at least address it properly - rather than picking some faces out of a crowd.
Racism aside he should probably be sacked for being a shit journalist, a bell end, and a shit stirring attention whore, but presumably that fits the bill for what the MEN want.
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But you claimed he said it to all and that was upsetting to you. Fanboy is hardly a term on level if a racial slur or accusing a set of fans if being murderers etc.
It barely warrants a response let alone getting upset. It reeks of SJW's looking for something to get upset about.
The racial part was him attacking and mocking the foreign media continuously. I never said Fanboy was racist.
And describing any fans of any club by the " fanboy " is unprofessional by someone who's supposed to be a professional journalist.
I don't understand your point of defending him. If you don't have a problem with what he said it's fine for you, but doesn't mean he's painfully wrong and his article was childish in its finest.
I'm not interested in an e-battle on their behalf, or Luckhurst, although personally I find the tweet maybe a bit distasteful myself.
Suppose for me it's about when I was living in the States. There the United Supporters I was involved with were a mix of Ex-Pat Brits, Americans, Irish, Asians and Africans. They'd go over as tourists and hang one of those flags. And yeah, if someone wanted to point them out and say it's a problem, I and lot of other folks would be right up for an e-battle.
@Infra-red How many tweets did that crowd forced you to delete? Don't cave in under their tyranny.
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It's not only the article, Luckhurst is racist and his tweets prove that. You want to defend a racist then fine defend him, I don't have an issue if you want to defend him.
Interesting article. Luckhurst lost all credibility when he pretends to be knowledgeable about football and proceeds by comparing Lingard to Schweinsteiger because the german's fate and perception changed when his position/role changed, he became a world class player and arguably the best midfielder outside of Iniesta/Xavi. Luckhurst is one of those superficial Sport journalist who clearly know nothing and can barely hide it.
As for Lingard, he has potential and there is a role where he can excel somewhere on the field but we haven't found it yet.
Don't bother mate, I've already shown him the "idiotic Asians" quotes amongst others and he chose to ignore that too
He's putting his blinders on and hoping to divert attention to the slightly more obscure quotes
@Infra-red How many tweets did that crowd forced you to delete? Don't cave in under their tyrany.
As I suspected it is him! Luckhurst is infra-red and pogue is his wife !
I think Lingard is far superior when he plays through the middle/10 position. He's impressed me the few times he played there
We have too many potential 10's in the side bit off topic but thought I would chime in
Most of those tweets doesn't seem racist to me, more like a snotty twat who fancies himself a bit of a t0p r3d and who think he can look down on foreign fans and will look smart doing it.
Edit: like examplified below. Just a tit who failed to catch on to the globalization of the sport.
Edit: like examplified below. Just a tit who failed to catch on to the globalization of the sport.
Looks like he might have it in for the Scandinavians too:
Samuel LuckhurstVerified account @samuelluckhurst
Watching the 90 of Saturday's game and just seen the Norwegian tourists. The club's a disgrace giving them that many tickets. #MUFC
Samuel LuckhurstVerified account @samuelluckhurstWatching the 90 of Saturday's game and just seen the Norwegian tourists. The club's a disgrace giving them that many tickets. #MUFC
It's frustrating to be honest, and it happens a lot on this forum and I think it reflects pretty accurately society at the moment. You can't even have a discussion about racism/xenophobia/homophobia because a number of people will just gloss over the point and throw around patronising phrases.
A few years ago I got racially abused and attacked in Essex and when police arrived, I had a frank discussion with the officer saying I don't want to report it as people tend to favour the accused no matter what evidence is put in front of them. Over the last year my mum's been called a black c*nt and n*gger on two seperate occasions. She didn't want to do anything about it because she knows she'll be told that she's blowing things out of proportion.
Whether intentional or not, the attitude on display by some in this thread shows why racism will always be prevelant and it makes me kind of uncomfortable to be honest. I saw the same attitude in the Kelvin McKenzie and Ross Barkley thread. Discuss the issue and you're an Internet warrior or activist. Ridiculous.
@Infra-red How many tweets did that crowd forced you to delete? Don't cave in under their tyrany.
Genuinely have never met or spoken to the guy, I don't follow him on twitter and, from what I can gather, he's a bit of a tool anyway."Constant" is a bit strong, over the last 5-6 years (judging by how far people have been digging in his twitter history) he's posted a handful of tweets about Asian fans which were stupid. Big deal. Fans hate him because he calls out transfer muppets (rightly so) and keeps pissing on transfer rumours that muppets are desperate (for some reason) to believe true.
Like I said, I don't like Luckhurst - I think MEN's football coverage has been poor for some time, and he's a significant part of that. But the way a lot of fans have reacted is just faux-outrage
Without wanting to defend a very poor, clickbait, twitter abusing mouthpiece. (barely a journalist) I would be remiss not to call out some serious nonsense in this thread.
It's increasingly easy for people to be labelled racist with wanton disregard for the truthfulness or impact of that statement. Luckhurst IS A RACIST. THESE TWEETS ARE RACIST, HE IS, WAS AND ALWAYS WILL BE AN UNEQUIVOCAL UNREPENTANT RACIST.
Who on God's green earth are you to draw such conclusions from 4 dubious tweets out of thousands?
I'm sure you've never made a questionably racial quip, had a problem with a certain kind of person and then generalised about a certain race, ethnicity, creed, culture or otherwise. I'd love to lift the lid on all your sins so the good (or not) people of Redcafe can judge you for all your missteps.
Goes for more than few in this thread, as far as I can see.
Oh but he's in the public eye etc etc.
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Give him time, he needs to work out how to keep avoiding these quotes and how long he can continue this ruse by deliberately ignoring the crux of a sentence and pick one word to divert
It seems a few posters are making excuses for his blatant racism rather than address the racism itself.
Quote these tweets but insert corner shop or schools instead of football and see what happens.
Not understanding the globalisation of football as if it hasn't been a world sport for 20 years now.
Quote these tweets but insert corner shop or schools instead of football and see what happens.
Not understanding the globalisation of football as if it hasn't been a world sport for 20 years now.
Worst thread ever.
- Samuel Luckhurst content : check
- Frothing at the mouth : check
- Faux-outrage : check
- Casual racism : check
- Locker room banter sympathizers : check
- Interminable witless debate : check
- Fabinho : check
- Samuel Luckhurst content : check
- Frothing at the mouth : check
- Faux-outrage : check
- Casual racism : check
- Locker room banter sympathizers : check
- Interminable witless debate : check
- Fabinho : check
The most ridiculous point I've seen yet .
I'm not having this. Fabinho will win us the treble.
There are no room for racist attacks in the country. That Barkley article was a disgrace. However Lock hurst clearly wants Manchester United to have mainly fans from Manchester. That isn't racist.
He should give up his seat then.
I had to make an effort in here to be fair.
I'm taking a run down to a reasonably expensive restaurant to celebrate a birthday tonight, I might let slip that I think there's too many foreigners in here these days. I'll let you know how it's receieved.
Maybe I'll get a pass because I don't understand the globalisation of fine dining...
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