Well he's been away for two years and the time at United probably cost him a lot of his confidence. But I think if he gets close to his former self he can lift Dortmund to the next level, because Mkhitaryan and Reus both need a bit of space to unlock the their full potential and Kagawa is/was exactly the player who could give it to them, by drawing out/binding defenders and quick comibinations.Watch him allmost instantly become a mainstay in that dortmund side again. feck me i want klopp managing united
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Wrong again. The best players should adapt to the system imposed by the head coach. This will be the aim and the players at United will be able to play in LvG'S system or they will be discarded. Simple.
Whenever I read these 2 names, I really want to throw up. It is just plain disgusting to see how managers can overtrust some individuals who deserve nothing and then distrust others for the wrong reasons.
This sale really highlights United's current problems. We are selling a player who we deem not good enough to start, to a team which is much, much better than us - where he was once the star of the team.
Even though he was far from perfect for us I am bit sad. I just can't believe that we are getting rid the likes of Kagawa and Nani and keeping the likes of Young and Valencia(I know nobody wants them).
if/when he starts dominating games, its going to be the PERFECT wakeup call to show just how bad at football we truly are.
It could well be that nobody wants to buy them
It was a case of him not really fitting into Van Gaal's plans. How does that highlight any problems?
Yeah, that's probably it.It could well be that nobody wants to buy them
Was doomed here from the moment we signed Van Persie really.
We'll never know how Rooney and Kagawa would have teamed up, but as we won the league that year, who can moan!
For me, he just never cut it, and he did start a load of games, more than people admit too. Many from wide, but players interchanged, and he just didn't hit the heights.
We'll never know how Rooney and Kagawa would have teamed up, but as we won the league that year, who can moan!
For me, he just never cut it, and he did start a load of games, more than people admit too. Many from wide, but players interchanged, and he just didn't hit the heights.
6.3 million?
You're doing it wrong. Thats a woeful fee for a player that was very good before he left Dortmund.
You're doing it wrong. Thats a woeful fee for a player that was very good before he left Dortmund.
I see it as £14.3m... providing Cleverley is off for £8m.6.3 million?
You're doing it wrong. Thats a woeful fee for a player that was very good before he left Dortmund.
Does it matter?
We're getting 3/4m more than we should for Cleverely and about the same less for Kagawa. Rather than than hold on to him which benefits neither the club nor Kagawa.
We're getting 3/4m more than we should for Cleverely and about the same less for Kagawa. Rather than than hold on to him which benefits neither the club nor Kagawa.
Well he hardly plays so at least he is off the wage bill.
If we never signed RVP I am sure he would have got more chances as a No.10. Sad to see him go but I guess this just wasn't the club for him.
If we never signed RVP I am sure he would have got more chances as a No.10. Sad to see him go but I guess this just wasn't the club for him.
Only thing LVG said was he wasn't able to fulfill the 6/8 role. From that the media said he was unwilling and that LVG was disappointed in him. It's also a far cry from LVG saying several times he's been disappointed in him but, that's not going to stop people from making up things. Also, have to wonder why LVG even tried him in a 6/8 when he had other options there but, perhaps it stands to reason that he rates Kagawa enough to try him in a position he's not really played just to get him on the field. Seeing as that didn't work out and we know is that LVG has said he has too many 9s and 10s, that Kagawa is being allowed to leave as there are other top players that are currently ahead of him in the pecking order. The departure probably is through mutual agreement.
Did Kagawa not start also against Real Madrid in the crucial first leg in Madrid in his preferred position? I might be wrong here but I do seem to recall that.
Rooney said he didn't want to play in central midfield, Ferguson had him drop back there for a few games nearer the end of the season remember? I'm not aware of Rooney claiming he didn't want to be a 10, from what I understand he has always stated he is either a 9 or a 10.
Yeah, give him a year in Dortmud and he'll be a 20-25m player again. Dortmund with potentially the steal of the summer with him I think.6.3 million?
You're doing it wrong. Thats a woeful fee for a player that was very good before he left Dortmund.
Absolutely brilliant player who just didn't fit in here.
I'm glad that he went to Dortmund out of all teams, he'll be given the platform to regain his form under Klopp
I'm glad that he went to Dortmund out of all teams, he'll be given the platform to regain his form under Klopp
Shame, maybe this'll dissuade any other Dortmund players from potentially joining United.
As a Bayernguy; congrats Dortmund. A great great player, just 25. He knows Dortmund and will be back in a few months Im sure.
Over time he will be even better then in his former Dortmund days. Matured, fully grown. He, Reus, Micky(sorry) and Gündogan(back in training) could be something very good coming the CL Ko rounds.
Just great for the Bundesliga.
But Dortmund will only be 2nd at best.
Over time he will be even better then in his former Dortmund days. Matured, fully grown. He, Reus, Micky(sorry) and Gündogan(back in training) could be something very good coming the CL Ko rounds.
Just great for the Bundesliga.
But Dortmund will only be 2nd at best.
it's easy to criticise club because they sold him for nothing, but we also need to think about the player himself. he obviously isn't needed here and it just wouldn't be right to keep him on the bench for one more season because we thought he's worth extra 2-3 millions. does it really matter whether it was 8 or 12 millions?
Good on the club to doing what it needed to do - not a fantastic deal but, it helps with reducing the wage bill and also allows a very good player to go back to a system where his talents would be more suited. It just wasn't meant to be here.
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Moyes was sacked ages ago, and it's LvG who's decided he's surplus to requirements at Manchester United.
Anderson has now out lived Vidic, Evra, Rio, Fabio, Berbatov, Ronaldo, Nani, Hernandez and Kagawa at the club 
Just give the man his testimonial and statue now
Just give the man his testimonial and statue now
It's amazing how much of a difference a player like Paul Scholes makes to the game of the forward players, I hope Herrera can speed play up like that and sooner rather than later. I think the forwards need that.
Yeah but it's not like we haven't tried to give him away, it's just difficult when nobody wants him.Anderson has now out lived Vidic, Evra, Rio, Fabio, Berbatov, Ronaldo, Nani, Hernandez and Kagawa at the club
Just give the man his testimonial and statue now
We need to sell his qualities to other clubs.
1. He's a good character to have in the dressing room
2. We'll pay you to take him
Or you could also say he's been at the club nearly twice as long as Cantona was.Anderson has now out lived Vidic, Evra, Rio, Fabio, Berbatov, Ronaldo, Nani, Hernandez and Kagawa at the club
Just give the man his testimonial and statue now
I'd rather not
We will see if he can regain his offensive brilliance from those days. His defending has improved massively and his link up play deeper down the pitch was a weakness of his which is now a strength(better than Mata, easily).As a Bayernguy; congrats Dortmund. A great great player, just 25. He knows Dortmund and will be back in a few months Im sure.
Over time he will be even better then in his former Dortmund days. Matured, fully grown. He, Reus, Micky(sorry) and Gündogan(back in training) could be something very good coming the CL Ko rounds.
Just great for the Bundesliga.
But Dortmund will only be 2nd at best.
It can go either way really, either the loss of confidence and match fitness has hurt him too much or he gets over it and they got a top player again for peanuts.
Oh Shinji, it was not to be. It's a shame he has gone back to the BL, but there has been such an increase in the amount of No. 10s in the PL I don't think any top club really needed him. Again, a shame his dream of playing in the PL didn't work out but hopefully when he wins it all with Dortmund we'll snap him up again.
Probably longer than Ronaldo tooI'd rather not
Yep....Officially longer nowProbably longer than Ronaldo too
Weird that he was sold but Hernandez will be loaned, apparently.
Do we have a buyback clause or something?
Do we have a buyback clause or something?
Really don't know how to feel about this one, from what I've seen he was class for Dortmund first time and showed flashes of brilliance during his time here, just never seemed to properly hit it off at United.
Don't get me wrong - there's obviously quality there, I just don't know if our expectations of him were too high. Being pushed out the flank didn't help, Mata arriving has pretty much sealed his fate.
Thanks Shinji, I wish you well.
Don't get me wrong - there's obviously quality there, I just don't know if our expectations of him were too high. Being pushed out the flank didn't help, Mata arriving has pretty much sealed his fate.
Thanks Shinji, I wish you well.
Sad to see him go.
Good luck back in Germany Shinji.
Good luck back in Germany Shinji.
Reminds me of Veron. Top player that shined in a certain system, but was asked to play differently when at United. Juan Mata, you're officially on the clock.
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