He'll just stick him with a "bad, mistimed" tackle. Have that, courtesy of Shinji.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Pretty disappointed about this, would've preferred him to stay tbh. He'll be brilliant at Dortmund again no doubt.
Well think Scholes is the type of guy who barely speaks, but when he does he does he unleashes the beast.
Honestly, i just think Scholes isn't made for social interaction and he has dire social skills (politically correct onces for the industry) and thats what makes him so awesome. Because he doesn't filter his brain with "i shouldn't say that he used to be a team mate or a friend" like Neville does. Beside an extremely talented guy like Scholes must have gone crazy in his head playing with the likes of Cleverley, Ando, Fletcher, Carrick for so long while not being able to put it out there and do a Roy Keane. So now he still see's it, and even worse, and he got the freedom to mention it.
Judging on his views, i highly preferred Scholes to Giggs as assistant.
Sad to see him go. Had he be given a chance he might have edged out Mata on the depth chart.
Rooney started a lot more games than Kagawa did under Ferguson and whenever Kagawa was used it was painfully obvious he was out of position.
Moyes also started Kagawa in more games than Ferguson did.
Rooney's been immense for the majority of those 10 years. Don't know why Scholes seems to have it in for him.
Neither do I, Scholes is honest but can go a step too far. In this instance he did.
Almost certain Scholes didn't say that.
Yet he doesn't play it on the ground, Kagawa does more of this. Mata tries a lot of lobbed passes and they've been progressively getting worse.
Didn't hear about the training incident. I imagine that announcement pissed more than a few players off.Didn't Scholes injure Rooney in training after the latter had made his announcement of not renewing his contract in 2011, questioning the quality of the side? Maybe that wasn't a coincidence.
Anyway, it's plain to see that Fergie's plans was for Van Persie and Kagawa to be starters before David "Yes, Wayne" Moyes came in.
Good for him. Some of us are just not 'people pleasers' so I can relate to that. The veneer of solidarity at United did crack a bit last season (David May) in spite of the bloody obvious.
Disappointed he never really reached his best with us but I hope he goes well at Dortmund (which I have no doubt he will). All the best Shinji!
All the best Shinji. It's a shame that, despite all your teammates saying you had tremendous skills, you were never given a consistent run in the side. Maybe your game just isn't suited to the PL. Good luck bact at Dortmund where you will probably tear it up again.
Yeah its the type of guy people actually want to listen to and trust when it matters. And not the "calm down, all will be fine, it takes time" clowns.
What a fecking fanboi Scholes is.
Is there any proof to him actually saying this? Doesn't seem like the type of thing he'd say at all though I get the impression Scholes was a huge fan of Kagawa (little things I noticed in the 12/13 season when they played together, like Scholes actively seeking out Kagawa and trusting him more with the ball then others).
Good luck to him.
Didn't quite work out here, hopefully everything works out for him back in Dortmund.
Will be one of the main men now with no Gotze, Lewandowski and Reus probably on his way out next season.
Or were they the reason Kagawa was able to shine as he did for Dortmund perhaps?
Didn't quite work out here, hopefully everything works out for him back in Dortmund.
Will be one of the main men now with no Gotze, Lewandowski and Reus probably on his way out next season.
Or were they the reason Kagawa was able to shine as he did for Dortmund perhaps?
this is bullshit
Shinji is class, and that fee is just ridiculous. Terrible piece of business in my opinion.
farewell shinji san. Stay classy in Dortmund
(my last 2 jerseys i bought where Shinji and Cleverley
... still deciding what number to get this season)
Shinji is class, and that fee is just ridiculous. Terrible piece of business in my opinion.
farewell shinji san. Stay classy in Dortmund
(my last 2 jerseys i bought where Shinji and Cleverley
... still deciding what number to get this season)Complete the sequence and get Hernandezthis is bullshit
Shinji is class, and that fee is just ridiculous. Terrible piece of business in my opinion.
farewell shinji san. Stay classy in Dortmund
(my last 2 jerseys i bought where Shinji and Cleverley
too late... by the time it arrives, he would be good as gone =(
I hope i break the curse with my next one.
im thinking Jones, Januzaj, Mata... or maybe the new #23... #believe
Thats the spirit!too late... by the time it arrives, he would be good as gone =(
I hope i break the curse with my next one.
im thinking Jones, Januzaj, Mata... or maybe the new #23... #believe
Get a sterling T-Shirt please.this is bullshit
Shinji is class, and that fee is just ridiculous. Terrible piece of business in my opinion.
farewell shinji san. Stay classy in Dortmund
(my last 2 jerseys i bought where Shinji and Cleverley
That's an idiotic quote from Scholes, therefore, chances are it's fake.
this is bullshit
Shinji is class, and that fee is just ridiculous. Terrible piece of business in my opinion.
farewell shinji san. Stay classy in Dortmund
(my last 2 jerseys i bought where Shinji and Cleverley
Get both Young and Valencia and we'll owe you a big favour.
Of course Rooney did. He was still an important player in Ferguson's last season. Though it was telling that Rooney did not start in arguably our biggest game of that season (the Madrid game) and Ferguson had pretty much prepared the fans for Rooney's departure in his last few weeks at the club with that announcement that he wanted to leave and leaving him out of the team vs Swansea at home. Besides, two signings in RVP and Kagawa, both in positions Rooney plays in. Coincidence? At best, Fergie thought Rooney was better off playing in centre midfield than upfront.
Regarding the second point, Kagawa did have a lengthy spell out injured in his first season.
I hope we have sold them Kagawa cheap so as to have a first refusal or some sort of deal to get Hummels in next summer since Reus can totally decide where he wants to go as long as a buying club offers his buyout next summer.
Kagawa didn't either
Well said Scholes, not sure the right ones gone out the door to be honest but it's done and wish Kagawa the best of luck. Must have jumped at the chance the minute Klopp gave him the old curly finger.
Anyone see Scholes say that live? I really doubt he said that. Not too long ago he said Lingard should have challenged Kagawa for minutes.
Agree with this.
Over 2 years Kagawa probably did have 5-10 matches in the hole and overall I don't think he did enough in those games. A couple he was brilliant, a couple good, some others he was average and some poor. However, when he played there it tended to be with the reserves in cup games and things like that, not our first choice players and rarely for more than 1 game in a row. We definitely didn't give him a run in his best position and there arent many players who succeed when they dont get that.
Ah, but what are you saying, that Ferguson was getting rid of Kagawa so soon after he was bought? I thought it was telling that Rooney, a much more established name, did not start that game.
I still maintain I didn't feel he was given enough chances. Playing in his preferred position only in games where we rest our first teamers isn't what I'd call optimal. Anyway, he's gone. We'll move on.
The issue here is that, yes, he didn't have such good seasons, but people fail to see that when he played he contributed in other ways than assist/goals. Movements W and W/O ball is a typical example that seems to be underestimated greatly here. Also he had many good ideas and clever attempts that the fellow team mates seemed to just plainly ignore by doing silly runs abd backward passes instead of moving constantly. A good picture of the pale and boring United these days.
Then all of our current squad is great players that fits well into a mid table team. And I must say that Cleverly, Young, Valencia, even Rooney and Fletcher has been excellent at being "great players" lately by knowing exactly where to find their team mates...a short pass backwards...
I have a feeling that Berbatov might have been a perfect suit for Kagawa. Unfortunate and corret assumption afaik.Can you imagine if we had Kagawa when Ronnie/Rooney and Tevez were at the club
Right player, wrong time. That sums up Kagawa for me.
Disappointed to see him go for sure, but it's probably for the best for his career really.
The Scholes punditry seems a bit like his tackling. You're never quite sure what's gonna get dished out. Accidentally, obviously. .
.So essentially he was too good for United?
More like; quite a few players are too bad for United.
Ignore him being Dortmunds best player before we bought him.
He's a very good player who didn't suit our style at all. Not premier league material is bollocks, put him in Liverpool or arsenals teams and he'd look fantastic. Put him in uniteds static team and the same happens like with all #10's, they look a bit useless.
There you go, fans backing a player who is:
1. Not needed at the club
2. Never performed
It's ridiculous how some players always get away with underperforming. It was the same thing with Anderson and Nani for a couple of years. I understand that some of you like him because he seem to be quiet, humble and overall a good team player. I believe it's the japanese culture of being polite that have created this generic japanese personality that is so easy to apply on each asian player.
He never made an impact here and will never be needed. Yet there are fans who believe he was unfairly treated or should have had a third year. Louis Van Gaal also believe the guy have to leave - what more do you need to hear? Just look at the kind of treatment Cleverley received from this forum ffs. A home grown guy who never cost us a thing and tried his best.
So to call my post SHIT and stuff like that is just a sign of how emotinally attached to this player you are. This is not a social business. It's about competition and a club like Man United can not afford letting players be below standards. LVG only begun cleaning up the mess. I am impressed with the way he's gone about business. I'm really confident we will end up with a pretty good team at the end. I'm lookint 3-4 years ahead now - that's the kind of horizion LVG is working towards. Many of his former teams like Barca and Bayern blossomed extremely much just 1-2 years after his departure. So when LVG is building a squad you can be sure it is something that could become a world team.
I liked him but somehow it just didnt work out as we all hoped it would. Hope he finds his best form again in Dortmund
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