Inigo Montoya
Leave Wayne Rooney alone!!
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Yep, He's selling matchday programmes
He didn't leave the club , he was appointed as some sort of director, which nobody knew what actually entailed as a real position within the organisation. It was his retirement payment basically.I don't think Fergie ever left the club. After he retired, he announced all the fun things he planned to do and football wasn't on the agenda. Like Sir Matt before him, he couldn't let go. I'm not saying he meddled because I don't think he did that, but after he stepped down, the club did take a turn in another direction. I doubt the Glazers will ever again want to see that much power and control vested in one man; hence Woodward's involvement, which is of a much higher profile than Gill's ever was.
I think he should be consulted on footballing matters and clearly his fingerprints are all over the OGS/Phelan appointments. But appointing a new manager to take us forward needs more than Fergie's say-so, though the club would be silly not to get his input. They should do what huge multinationals do and hire consultants to sift through the likely candidates and match the right man to the situation. But he's bought us six months to do all that. Let's hope the club uses the time wisely.
I didn't mean that in the literal sense. I was implying that Fergie's "shadow", for want of a better word, remained even after he'd retired to purportedly pursue other things.He didn't leave the club
Love the guy but no. I can't see him wanting to pay the fee it requires to get top players these days.Various reports coming out. Haven't seen it anywhere here so am posting.
http://www.kickoff.com/news/91799/sir-alex-ferguson-legendary-manager-back
Good to hear and he apparently was consulted on who to choose after Mourinho and he chose Ole.
I am glad he is back in some capacity, wouldn't mind if he becomes the director of football too.
Let him rest
Doubt it. Maybe they had one meeting or two, phone calls even.
"Working", he's 77 and still recovering from last health issue ffs.
SAF as DoF? Jesus, let the man rest. He simply should not be spending near the same energy required for such a job.
Who isn't? I think even the scousers will happily admit they have big respect for the guy now he's retiredPoch's a big fan of Fergie isn't he?
Thanks, I’ve been practising with Mavis.Well typed
This.I think Ole and Phelan's arrival was Fergie's decision, and so I think he's a major influence in the board room, and is a phone away from Ole, but I think that's all.
Your comment was my first reaction. This is a hugely difficult subject that many clubs have had to cope with varying degrees of success.
Liverpool were quick to get Shankly distanced from their club and claimed it was preferable to Busby’s continuing influence at OT. Their results in the 70s and 80s suggest there’s was a succcessful solution.
I would argue Busby was simply impossible to sideline. He was a ‘presence’, in close proximity he was almost deified. Unlike Fergie, he was at the heart and soul of Manchester football. Red or Blue he was held with such high esteem, it was a phenomenal relationship between the man and the city. Most of it came from his playing for City, Munich, and the European Cup but he was also that ‘humble’ quiet man that no one could fail to respect. However, there is the case that Busby made it difficult for Wilf and O’Farrell to function especially in regards to dropping the legends. In Too Good To Go Down, it was Busby’s presence that contributed to the team’s long term decline that led to relegation. I think Patrick Barclay said he was simply too loyal to drop the legends.
The Fergie situation is also complex:
Firstly, he has hardly been quiet in his retirement - attending games, the second book, the lecture circuit and the tv interviews have all been about United past, present and future. This was not as he claimed in July 2013, a retirement of living in New York with the missus visiting museums.
Secondly, he became that go-between from squad, club, board to shareholders, which was unlike any other managerial relationship in football. He was called upon to identify a replacement, which in business is frowned upon. However, its possible that his meeting with potential candidates made some of them jittery over his continuing presence in squad politics.
Thirdly, Fergie is not untainted by past events that stretched from ‘the Rock’, to the Glazers, the Keane affair, and even the Beckham incident. He promised to back Moyes but released his second memoir which meant he remained in the spotlight. At the time this suggested to me that there was no one in the club capable of asking him to step away.
But, Fergie doesn’t have the same loyalty to the players as Busby. He is the ultimate pragmatist and competitor and can take the semi-director of football role temporarily although his health must now be a major concern for everyone.
Yep, Ole said as much in his post match interview where the boss was querying Rossi's goal. 4:39 in the videoThere is a quote in this article from the official website that SAF was on the training ground on Saturday
https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/ole-gunnar-solskjaer-on-giuseppe-rossi-training-with-the-club
I Missed that press conference. Guess SAF is possibly helping / advising Ole and the coaching staff which can only be good news.Yep, Ole said as much in his post match interview where the boss was querying Rossi's goal. 4:39 in the video