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Bayern Munchen ??
Munchen on das nuts bitches.... lets be havin em.
Munchen on das nuts bitches.... lets be havin em.
I think his tactical approach has been over-simplified, for various different reasons.He may know about tactics but so far his answer to every challenge has been to play his 4-4-1-1/4-2-3-1.
He has changed approaches based on the opposition or changed a formation during a match to turn a game decisively in our favor. His usual response to us being behind is to chuck as many forwards on as possible.
Its a valid criticism IMO.
Moyes knows a thing or two about tactical approach sure, it's just that thing or two was always applied at Everton, who largely setup the same way and had the same objectives throughout his tenure. The objectives and expectations differ dramatically at United.The idea that Moyes hasn't a clue about tactics is getting on my tits tbh.
It's like the Fergie-bashing all over again. They both clearly know a thing or two about tactics. You don't get where they got in football without being very tactically astute.
Where they differ is that Fergie knew how to motivate this squad which Moyes, so far, doesn't seem to have a rashers how to do.
There's a confusion surrounding the difference between coaching and tactics. I disagree about motivation, it's the coaching and what's done on the training ground that's our biggest problem, I suspect. His tactics may not be that bad, but he and his staff certainly don't have the creativity or imagination to create an attacking side at such a big club. He's ingrained in percentage play, sadly.The idea that Moyes hasn't a clue about tactics is getting on my tits tbh.
It's like the Fergie-bashing all over again. They both clearly know a thing or two about tactics. You don't get where they got in football without being very tactically astute.
Where they differ is that Fergie knew how to motivate this squad which Moyes, so far, doesn't seem to have a rashers how to do.
"Marouane, I want you to go long..."
"Ok Boss...How long?"
"Until we start to look really small..."
he may not be, but he's been a bloody tactical simpleton quite a few times this season. Infact, if anything, he's just tried copying Fergie.I think his tactical approach has been over-simplified, for various different reasons.
Not saying there' isn't some scope for criticism but the idea that he is a tactical simpleton compared to Guardiola is unfair.
Errr, no, it's not. At all.Not saying there' isn't some scope for criticism but the idea that he is a tactical simpleton compared to Guardiola is unfair.
It's a game of football, both teams are going to have chances. You can't just put this solely down to tactics. By the same logic, we had further chances to score and even hit the post.Well if it's getting on YOUR tits, we'd better all stop.
Cmon, it's equally his tactical nous as it is his apparent inability to motivate his team.
Frankly, I suspect the players motivated themselves for Wednesday's match - a win and a last truly big European tie for the foreseeable future.
The tactics were again, not apparently very good. Only Olympiakos' terrible finishing and De Gea's great goalkeeping saw us through the tie against the Greek giants.
I think it's true but there are few managers out there who tinker as much as Guardiola anyway, so it's not a big deal.I think his tactical approach has been over-simplified, for various different reasons.
Not saying there' isn't some scope for criticism but the idea that he is a tactical simpleton compared to Guardiola is unfair.
Yeah, true, but at least at home, in our fortress, we should not be being opened up like we were by the Greek giants. If we can't dictate at home, if we can prevent the opposition creating several very good chances I think that's got to be down to tactics.It's a game of football, both teams are going to have chances. You can't just put this solely down to tactics. By the same logic, we had further chances to score and even hit the post.
I'm taking all comments coming out after Moyes' departure from Everton with a grain of salt. (both good and bad)I think it's true but there are few managers out there who tinker as much as Guardiola anyway, so it's not a big deal.
Barkley's comments that Everton do more tactical work under Martinez than Moyes were more concerning.
April Fools Day. Can just see the headlines nowAccording to the Telegraph:
Draw:
Barcelona v Atletico (1 & 9 April)
Real Madrid v Borussia Dortmund (2 & 8 April)
PSG v Chelsea (2 & 8 April)
Manchester United v Bayern Munich (1 & 9 April)
Agree completely and particularly the bolded section, and I seriously cannot see him moving away from that. It's one of the reasons why we have a collection of outstanding flair players who manage to look so devoid of expression.There's a confusion surrounding the difference between coaching and tactics. I disagree about motivation, it's the coaching and what's done on the training ground that's our biggest problem, I suspect. His tactics may not be that bad, but he and his staff certainly don't have the creativity or imagination to create an attacking side at such a big club. He's ingrained in percentage play, sadly.
That's quite possibly true. Although, we'd all have to admit that even under Fergie there was definitely something lacking in our attacking football last season. When our attacking football was as flat as we were for so much of last season under a manager as successful as Fergie (with Rene self-appointed genius Meulensteen on his team) than you have to think that personnel is as big an issue as coaching, if not more so.There's a confusion surrounding the difference between coaching and tactics. I disagree about motivation, it's the coaching and what's done on the training ground that's our biggest problem, I suspect. His tactics may not be that bad, but he and his staff certainly don't have the creativity or imagination to create an attacking side at such a big club. He's ingrained in percentage play, sadly.
there's no way Moyes will go for it.The question is, how to approach our home tie being the first game? Do we just play cautiously and hope for a cleansheet? Do we go for it?
You'd think that even he would have to realise that he has to go for it.there's no way Moyes will go for it.
I think Moyes would rather get a 0-0 against Bayern Munich at OT than risk getting spanked for the sake of winning, so no, I don't tell he'll go for it. I think they'll destroy us in possession.You'd think that even he would have to realise that he has to go for it.
No, we will get completely taken up the rear orifice if we do that. Our attack isn't even fluid enough to cause the best teams problems, we're best suited to loading our team with pace and power and trying to hit them on the counter attack.We wont last 20 minutes if we park the bus. We need to completely disregard defending and and go all out attack, it's our only option.
The Glazers will insist that we go for it - even if the difference is 500k in prize money.What league games do we have either side of the first leg? (not that league results matter a bollox)
You must have some massive tits judging by the amount of times you've started a post in this manner.The idea that Moyes hasn't a clue about tactics is getting on my tits tbh.
It's like the Fergie-bashing all over again. They both clearly know a thing or two about tactics. You don't get where they got in football without being very tactically astute.
Where they differ is that Fergie knew how to motivate this squad which Moyes, so far, doesn't seem to have a rashers how to do.
Been wondering about that actually. You get more money the higher up the league you finish and more money for each round you progress in the CL.The Glazers will insist that we go for it - even if the difference is 500k in prize money.
No, we're really not. Bayern are going to score at least 4 or 5 times over the two legs. We have to take the game to them, not sit back and try to counter; that would be suicideNo, we will get completely taken up the rear orifice if we do that. Our attack isn't even fluid enough to cause the best teams problems, we're best suited to loading our team with pace and power and trying to hit them on the counter attack.
I'd play Carrick, Jones and Rooney as a 3 man midfield with Welbeck and Valencia supporting RVP. Basically hope that RVP does something special and try to keep compact.
Not everyone. Kevin. A lot of people don't annoy me at all, even if I disagree with them. You annoy me a lot, in the same way most bad comedians annoy me. It's that combination of cringe and irritation which - you guessed it - really gets on my tits. It's as though Michael McIntyre has a log in. Piainful stuff.You must have some massive tits judging by the amount of times you've started a post in this manner.
I'm sure we all annoy you with our dull and uninspiring ideas but please make more room on those voloptuous pleasurebuns because we of the lesser blessed always paint things black and white so you can point out to us that ''the complicated truth is somewhere in the middle, BOOMSHAKALAKA''.
Someone tell Muller that the Caf thinks the performance wasn't that good.Thomas Müller: “It was clear all the quarter-finals would be big games. There was no team in the draw where we would have said: oh yes, we’ll take them. United turned around their last 16 match against Piraeus with an outstanding performance. It shows they have the quality.“
He hasn't though and that's pretty obvious so far. He knows how to set up a team tactically not to lose and maybe steal a win, but when it comes to tactics that need to dominate and attack he is clueless.The idea that Moyes hasn't a clue about tactics is getting on my tits tbh.
It's like the Fergie-bashing all over again. They both clearly know a thing or two about tactics. You don't get where they got in football without being very tactically astute.
Where they differ is that Fergie knew how to motivate this squad which Moyes, so far, doesn't seem to have a rashers how to do.
~£500k difference in league prize money is peanuts. If you get to the next round of the CL you get gate receipts, TV money and if we win the damn thing we get CL football. It's really a no brainer.Been wondering about that actually. You get more money the higher up the league you finish and more money for each round you progress in the CL.
I wonder whether it is better to really go for it in the CL or bust our balls to try and finish as high up the league as possible, purely in terms of income?
It's obviously a huge gamble to put all your eggs in the CL basket. I wonder if the Glazers are betting men?
Gerrar...... AHHHHH YA BEAUTAAAAYYYYYY'know, Liverpool's 2004/05 match against mighty Olympiakos was rated #6 in F365's 'Greatest CL Comebacks' recently...yet for Moyes' United, there's only a grudging nod to his & our achievement.
http://www.football365.com/faves/9206651/F365-s-Top-Ten-Champions-League-Comebacks