Someone outrageous. Wenger.He has to go. This team with a very good manager could be an excellent team. Who should replace him though? Any ideas?
Luke Shaw says no :-)Give it to Mou.
You mean facing the likes of Croatia, Denmark, Germany and Italy isn’t a tough draw?The easy draws England have had in the last two tournaments, has clearly been the biggest factor in England reaching the semi and final. Too many people ignore the strength of opposition in these things.
Spain and Belgium would very likely have both dumped England out, then you could easily be looking at another r16 or quarter final exit.
Can you even imagine if the 2018 side would have come up against the 2002 Brazil side?
Southgate has done a good job building a positive atmosphere and that's about it. Everything else he's done ranges from mediocre to ludicrous.
Unfortunately I expect he'll be found out badly as soon as we end up with a tougher draw again.
Italy hardly count do they as that's the final. Clearly whoever comes out of the far tougher side of the draw is going to be a top side. By easy draw I'm talking route to the final. So other than that, yes pretty clearly an easy draw. Beating Germany sounds good but everyone knows that was a poor Germany side who turned it on for one game against Portugal and looked underwhelming in every other match. Quarter final against Ukraine and semi against Denmark? Any serious team in history would bite your hand off and laugh all the way to the final at that. They still had to get the job done and hats off to them, but don't count on that luck continuing.You mean facing the likes of Croatia, Denmark, Germany and Italy isn’t a tough draw?
Don’t forget we were two penalty kicks away from winning it.
We lost the final for the same reasons we lost in the WC semi-final. If he didn’t learn then, I can’t see why he’d learn now.He'll get another shot. He's got to be braver next time though. Greenwood and Bellingham will be another year older. If Greenwood has a great season he could possibly be England's number 9. I thought Kane was terrible and lacks pace.
Terrible post, I mean why would the players want him out after getting to a world cup semi and then a world cup final with him. You do realise Harry Kane, Raheem Sterling and Kyle Walker played in the Iceland match and you think they should turn on their manager. England have just reached their first euro final with one of the youngest squads in the tournament and you want the manager out . Wow.Realistically, England won't win anything under Gareth Southgate....which is sad because it's a waste of generational talent.
But what fans say doesn't matter, it's up to the players to start speaking out.
Media sources are stating many of them were shocked that he asked a inexperienced 19 year old to take the penalty shot over Grealish and Sterling...which I thought was weird to.
Most of the English squad have played with top level managers...so I think they know that Southgate falls short...but if they want him gone...they need to speak out, Harry Kane isn't getting any younger.
we have one of our most talented squads and had a clean run to the final almost. We don't want the talent to go to waste by not having a good enough conductor. He shown his lack of nous in 2 tourneys in a row by losing control of a game after going ahead early. If we gonna sit deep then you have to counter.He got you closer to winning the Euro's than any England manager in history. How is everyone this mad at him. It's not like you're Germany or France, no one expect you to be this good. He deserves a statue.
Wait what? I thought that was some meme. He is getting knighted for absolutely nothingAbsolute joke he's getting a knighthood. Getting to the semi final/final with this squad was always achievable, it's not a miracle.
Holy shit I couldn't believe till I actually searched. He's really getting knighted !!Wait what? I thought that was some meme. He is getting knighted for absolutely nothing
Could as well knight Shaw, Maguire, Kane, Sterling and Stones.
It's the same as what I said in the OP. It depends if you just look at it as a stat or look under the hood.You mean facing the likes of Croatia, Denmark, Germany and Italy isn’t a tough draw?
Don’t forget we were two penalty kicks away from winning it.
I wouldn’t say manhandled. It sounds stupid but I think had we not scored in the second minute we’d have won.It's the same as what I said in the OP. It depends if you just look at it as a stat or look under the hood.
Croatia - Lost when he faced them in the World Cup. Beat them this time around but I'm sure you'll agree that the Croatia team is on it's last legs.
Denmark - Won via a dubious penalty. England did however outplay them but Denmark is a team England should beat comfortably when you compare the two squads.
Germany - Germany was a good win but that is a shadow of the past German teams. Just look at their results leading up to the tournament, which included a 6-0 thrashing at the hands of Spain. They were bottom of their group until the last 5 minutes of their game against Hungary.
Italy - A top tier team and England got manhandled in that match.
Media completely ignoring how his tactics and refusal to bring in attacking players cause the team to lose the finals. I mean they wrote pages and pages about how awesome he is to get to finals (though ignoring the struggles against hapless Denmark), but then after the finals it is only about racism and at most that last penalty.Holy shit I couldn't believe till I actually searched. He's really getting knighted !!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/euro-2021/2021/07/11/gareth-southgate-knighted-putting-smile-faces/
This is one of the most football news I have heard last few years.
To be fair, we are talking about the most important thing and thats the last thing that he would like to be talking about.Southgate must be pretty happy that all discussion is focussed on hooligans and racists and his s**ty tactics and game management that cost the game is being ignored by media.
Last media talk about him was how awesome he was to take England to finals
That is a very linear way of thinking. Ease of the draws is being ignored. Also the fact that they struggled to reach finals and reached because of a dubious penalty decision.I think England got insane expectations. A manager reaches the final and fail on pens. Sack him!
Never won the Euros they have , but shall still be seen as huge favorites to win it every year?
England had a great tournaments apart from the pens. Southgate done a great job. He deserves to coach the world cup too.
What is failure here? Win it, semis?If he fail in that one maybe time to try someone different
England will knight a coward, after his defeat caused largely by him being a coward.Absolute joke he's getting a knighthood. Getting to the semi final/final with this squad was always achievable, it's not a miracle.
No games are easy at a Euro. It is this disrespect English fans have that they are much better than everyone else or should be.That is a very linear way of thinking. Ease of the draws is being ignored. Also the fact that they struggled to reach finals and reached because of a dubious penalty decision.
And ignore that the final game was there to be won, if some attacking players came in early.
What is failure here? Win it, semis?