Solskjær sack watch | 2019/20 edition

Slik

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No shit sherlock. We're 15th... so yeah. Any way to go is up
Yeah because 15th is the last position on the table and fans like you haven’t been claiming we are going into a relegation battle
 

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Called it before in other threads - we have 6 games before the derby, Spurs away being the last of those 6 - others Norwich(A), Bournemouth(A), Brighton(H), Sheff Utd (A), Villa(H) - he doesn't get at least 12 points out of the 18 on offer here, he's gone - and rightly so.
 

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If we loose tomorrow, it will be very difficult for Ole to come back from that, he will get the sack. I hope we win.
 

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I simply don't understand you people, do you think we have a squad of world class players or something? Why can't you understand that Solskjaer has only just started a desperately needed squad rebuild (after 6 years of directionless mismanagement) and will probably need 4/5 transfer windows before it is complete.

Could another manager do better with our squad with it's current injuries? Possibly but it isn't certain.

My view on supporting Ole has nothing to do with dropping standards, far from it, it's about restoring standards that have been lacking for many years. That will take time and patience.
Nope. Certainly not.
 

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I really don’t think Ole will get the sack unless we’re in serious danger of going down in March

It’s obvious from the outside that Ole and Ed sat down pre-Summer and put a plan together. I believe it went something like this -

- get rid of the high earners who have contributed very little

Reason: our wage bill was the highest in the PL and the structure had gone crazy. Players were put-out by Sanchez’s wages and the squad was unsettled. Some of our fans seem to think we have a bottomless pit of cash - but we really don’t. Wages account for half of our turnover so if we can offload the freeloaders, we free up money for signings.

- start to rebuild Utd with footballers who want to play for Utd for the right reasons

Reason: Ed seems to have realised you can’t just pick up a successful “name” from elsewhere, drop them into your team and expect them to deliver instant success. Football is a team game which revolves around having the right attitude and complimentary playing styles. Our team was a horrendous mish-mash of styles and players who downed tools the minute things didn’t go their way.

- develop Academy players so we can fill out the 23 with young, talented players, rather than having to spend £100m in backup full-backs, like City.

Reason: Transfer fees have gone insane. Im sorry but it’s untenable for anybody to keep spending £50m+ on a footballer to sit on the bench. It’s hurting City at the moment as they can’t develop a player, so they’re continually forced to spend big on squad players. If we can develop players like McTominay, Tuanzebe, Greenwood and Dean Henderson to fill-out the squad, we can focus on two/three big money signings each year.

In my opinion, all of the above policies make absolute sense. I said at the start of the season that we would be in for a terrible year but we need to ride it out to start fresh. I haven’t changed my opinion one bit. Those fans who think we would, or can, let eight go and bring eight in are just deluded. It was never going to happen that way. We’re paying now for bad decisions since about 2005 onwards....not for finally making some good decisions, like letting Sanchez and Lukaku go
 

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No shit sherlock. We're 15th... so yeah. Any way to go is up
There are a ton of posts on here and Reddit that just read like pure Woodward/Board propaganda. They're drinking the "Believe in the process" Koolaid and giving undue credit for shipping out under-performing players (which is what any functional club does) but retaining players like Jones, Mata, Young...who aren't foundations or helpful bridges to anything in the future.

There are NO indicators that recruitment or coaching are anywhere in the vicinity of building something that's remotely competitive. The three summer signings are easy obvious pedestrian signings and they most likely overpaid again, all while failing to address a completely inadequate midfield. There's basically 1 starting CM in the entire squad. You're not heading anywhere with that. This rebuild is a nice cover story for an inept CEO who proceeded with a laughable manager hire who in turn assembled a poor staff.

I mean of course, this sounds EXACTLY like Klopp's beginning at Liverpool. :confused:
 

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He needs to lose the next two PL games to get sacked. And even then Woody might have second thoughts.
 

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He won't be sacked during the season.

Some of you really haven't been paying attention to what is being said by Woodward in recent weeks.

They are prepared to rough it out with Ole come what may. They've made a decision that he's the man and that the only way that will prove correct is by giving him his full term. I'd say only relegation would change their minds.

From a cynical perspective you could also say that the real reason they want to give him time is because he's happy to operate within their stingy net spend and accept not going for every target he identifies.
 

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I really don’t think Ole will get the sack unless we’re in serious danger of going down in March

It’s obvious from the outside that Ole and Ed sat down pre-Summer and put a plan together. I believe it went something like this -

- get rid of the high earners who have contributed very little

Reason: our wage bill was the highest in the PL and the structure had gone crazy. Players were put-out by Sanchez’s wages and the squad was unsettled. Some of our fans seem to think we have a bottomless pit of cash - but we really don’t. Wages account for half of our turnover so if we can offload the freeloaders, we free up money for signings.

- start to rebuild Utd with footballers who want to play for Utd for the right reasons

Reason: Ed seems to have realised you can’t just pick up a successful “name” from elsewhere, drop them into your team and expect them to deliver instant success. Football is a team game which revolves around having the right attitude and complimentary playing styles. Our team was a horrendous mish-mash of styles and players who downed tools the minute things didn’t go their way.

- develop Academy players so we can fill out the 23 with young, talented players, rather than having to spend £100m in backup full-backs, like City.

Reason: Transfer fees have gone insane. Im sorry but it’s untenable for anybody to keep spending £50m+ on a footballer to sit on the bench. It’s hurting City at the moment as they can’t develop a player, so they’re continually forced to spend big on squad players. If we can develop players like McTominay, Tuanzebe, Greenwood and Dean Henderson to fill-out the squad, we can focus on two/three big money signings each year.

In my opinion, all of the above policies make absolute sense. I said at the start of the season that we would be in for a terrible year but we need to ride it out to start fresh. I haven’t changed my opinion one bit. Those fans who think we would, or can, let eight go and bring eight in are just deluded. It was never going to happen that way. We’re paying now for bad decisions since about 2005 onwards....not for finally making some good decisions, like letting Sanchez and Lukaku go


We got rid of ONE high earner mate. Romelu Lukaku. He was also our top goalscorer and we're struggling to score goals this season so that was a great decision tactically.

Sanchez is back next summer and we're still paying his wages.

This 'clear out' is a fecking disgusting myth that needs to die immediately. Ole hasn't cleared out a thing - he lost our second best midfielder on a free transfer and got rid of Fellaini. Smalling and Sanchez have gone on loan and Darmian ceased to be a footballer 3yrs ago.

There was no clear-out, it's a load of bolllocks spin as is 99% of the shite that comes out of our club's PR machine.
 

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Poor squad + injury crisis = sack the manager

Am I doing it right now?
The poor squad is the managers fault. Blindly placing his faith in youth and relying on injury prone players to fill holes he created in his squad is his own doing.
 

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We got rid of ONE high earner mate. Romelu Lukaku. He was also our top goalscorer and we're struggling to score goals this season so that was a great decision tactically.

Sanchez is back next summer and we're still paying his wages.

This 'clear out' is a fecking disgusting myth that needs to die immediately. Ole hasn't cleared out a thing - he lost our second best midfielder on a free transfer and got rid of Fellaini. Smalling and Sanchez have gone on loan and Darmian ceased to be a footballer 3yrs ago.

There was no clear-out, it's a load of bolllocks spin as is 99% of the shite that comes out of our club's PR machine.
This needs to be put on the banner at the top of the page. This mystical clearout is PR bullshit for gutting our squad and not replacing anyone.
 

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I simply don't understand you people, do you think we have a squad of world class players or something? Why can't you understand that Solskjaer has only just started a desperately needed squad rebuild (after 6 years of directionless mismanagement) and will probably need 4/5 transfer windows before it is complete.

Could another manager do better with our squad with it's current injuries? Possibly but it isn't certain.

My view on supporting Ole has nothing to do with dropping standards, far from it, it's about restoring standards that have been lacking for many years. That will take time and patience.
Could another manager do better than 15th?
Could another manager win a game away from home?
Could another manager not lose to Huddersfield, Cardiff, Newcastle?

It's pointless to even argue so get this - in our last 19 official games we've scored more than 1 goal once (the Chelsea game where we weren't that impressive at all). 19(!!!), that's half a season.It's incomprehensible.

We can't score. We always concede. We play terrible.

Now that I think about it. No manager at all, might be better.
 

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He won't be sacked during the season.

Some of you really haven't been paying attention to what is being said by Woodward in recent weeks.

They are prepared to rough it out with Ole come what may. They've made a decision that he's the man and that the only way that will prove correct is by giving him his full term. I'd say only relegation would change their minds.

From a cynical perspective you could also say that the real reason they want to give him time is because he's happy to operate within their stingy net spend and accept not going for every target he identifies.
If we drop into the relegation zone they won’t have a choice. He won’t carry on in his job if there’s a genuine fear of relegation which there is.
 

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We got rid of ONE high earner mate. Romelu Lukaku. He was also our top goalscorer and we're struggling to score goals this season so that was a great decision tactically.

Sanchez is back next summer and we're still paying his wages.

This 'clear out' is a fecking disgusting myth that needs to die immediately. Ole hasn't cleared out a thing - he lost our second best midfielder on a free transfer and got rid of Fellaini. Smalling and Sanchez have gone on loan and Darmian ceased to be a footballer 3yrs ago.

There was no clear-out, it's a load of bolllocks spin as is 99% of the shite that comes out of our club's PR machine.
Not to mention we need to sign a replacement for Lukaku anyway. The difference in wages is a drop in the ocean for this club.

Sums up our club.
It's impossible to even imagine any other big club being in this situation. Somehow it's the danger of relegation that is the cut off now :houllier:
 

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It's impossible to even imagine any other big club being in this situation. Somehow it's the danger of relegation that is the cut off now :houllier:
It's just unbelievable. As I said before, our fanbase is as much to blame as our board for all this mess we are in right now. We deserve all the shite we get right now.
 

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Definitely entertaining. They have lost all capabilities of making rational statements. Too many excuses.
Bailly, Pogba, Matic, Shaw, Tuanzebe, Dalot. We've literally just got Martial back.

That certainly isn't "2 players".

Talking about rational statements while not making rational statements; an incredible lack of self-awareness.
 

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Bailly, Pogba, Matic, Shaw, Tuanzebe, Dalot. We've literally just got Martial back.

That certainly isn't "2 players".

Talking about rational statements while not making rational statements; an incredible lack of self-awareness.
Only three of those mentioned players would be in our strongest 11.
 

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Bailly and Dalot being listed like they matter. Matic wouldn't be starting either.
Just imagine if we had Bailly and Dalot fit, we would be at least 1st in the league right now.
 

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Well IF we win today, and I know with the way we've been playing it is a big if, we'd be either 7th or 8th and close to a top six spot again.

It's shit that we're as low as we are but it is very tight and things can change very quickly in football. If we're gonna go on a run this is the time for it to happen.
 

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One point out of Norwich and Bournemouth could him get sacked but I think Ole will get the win today and see us jump to 7/8th then a point at Bournemouth. After that we have a home game to Brighton and away to our defensive nemesis Sheff United.

A loss today and a Newcastle win will see us 16th and needing a win at Bournemouth.

He and club are desperate to get to January. I don't think a loss and win will see him sacked but one point or no points in the next two games will be too uncomfortable, we'll be in the drop zone or right on it and it will be time for someone with more experience to come in.
 

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Unless you think the players mentioned would have 0 appearances if they were fit, your point is moot.
No it isn't.

Are we are now placing all our woes on the fact we couldn't play Bailly or Matic during the injury crisis? The boss has not stopped waxing lyrical about the young players so they should be ready to fill the void they left.