Klopper76
"Did you see Fabinho against Red Star & Cardiff?"
Those managers were all employed by Liverpool at a time when sacking managers every 12-24 months wasn't the normal thing to do though. Benitez and Houllier both had major success very early on in their tenures and Evans had us in the conversation for the title as well. Souness was the only hopeless one in that list. The others achieved something at Liverpool even if it wasn't much.Well @Klopper76, I'd say you should know better than any.
How successful is patience? I mean:
- Souness: 3 years
- Roy Evans: 4.5 years
- Houllier: 6 years
- Benítez: 6 years
You guys went 20 years without a league and sacked only 4 managers .
Then you sacked 3 managers in just 5 years until you landed on a winner, and finally after 30 years of hurt you had a league title to show for it.
It's not just "impatience", we've all seen clubs stick with managers too long and it go very wrong, having an average or nothing CV only adds to that anxiety. We've also seen the likes of Bayern, Chelsea, Madrid make quick decisions regarding sacking managers and it having a hugely positive effect.
I take it from your post that you've been of the opinion that Solskjaer should've been sacked more than once during his time as United manager?
Again, in Klopp's first full season we qualified for the Champions League on the last day. We did the same thing the following season. We also didn't win anything in Klopp's first season, we lost two finals. He raised the expectation and made fans enjoy watching the team again but true success didn't come until 2019, over three years after he was hired.Erm... he had you in a EL final after just 7 months in the job.
Then in his first full season, AT THIS POINT, 17 games, he was 2nd, on 37 points. Liverpool were in the top 4 all season long, and were still 3rd, just 3 points behind 2nd after gameweek 30.
Compare that to Ole's first full season (17 games - 25 points), Arteta (17 games - 23 points), or Lampard now in his second season (17 games - 26 points).
Liverpool weren't "patient" or showing blind faith with Klopp, they saw a CV and they saw very quick indications even in his first part season but especially in his first full season and results that backed up he was the right man.
Like you say, Klopp had a CV though so Liverpool could stick with him. Arteta, Lampard and Solskjaer obviously don't have a CV yet but how're they supposed to get it if you're going to pull the plug as soon as things don't look great? Do you think United would be in a better position now if Solskjaer had been sacked after his first 17 games?