Wumminator
The Qatar Pounder
Ole totally deserves a new deal.
We have had a lot of good news this season. Hope it keeps up!
We have had a lot of good news this season. Hope it keeps up!
I’m not suggesting I want Ole to go, but I think everyone can see the progress made with the youth team. Ole is the manager however, and will be judged on how the first team is playing.Are you for real?
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has turned our club right around from being an absolute Galactico mess.
Since Ole has come in full-time in the last 2 years, we have signed ELEVEN of the best teenagers in world football.We are the envy of world football with what we have been doing. We've snapped up the best player from Real Madrid's academy, best player from Barcelona's academy, best player from Man CIty's academy, best players from south America, from Italy...
Eleven top-quality teenagers.
Amad Diallo
Matej Kovar
Marc Jurado
Willy Kambwala
Alvaro Fernandez Isak
Hansen-Aaroen
Hannibal Mejbri
Charlie McNeill
Joe Hugill
Shola Shoretire
Facundo Pellistri
W'eve actually snapped one of these up - on average - every two months since Ole has come in. And I hear there are two more hot prospects on their way before May.
But of course, a huge number of "supporters" on here wouldn't know that, because they're only interested in the immediate. They have no patience for the future. They would have sacked Matt Busby in 1948 and they would have sacked Sir Alex in 1988. They can't think about the future. It doesn't register in their narrow minds.
Under LvG and Jose we were all about the NOW! Now we are all about the future.. the way our football club should be run.
Ole has totally turned our whole football club around.
I can not fathom how those claiming to be Manchester United fans don't understand that. It's as if they don't know anything about the club they supposedly claim to support.
As Sir Alex Ferguson often says, "when you become Manchester United manager, you are managing a football club, not just a football team".
There is a mammoth difference in those two things.Most fans on here don't understand that. They can't make sense of that. It's pathetic. Imagine not understanding the club you chose to support? Laughable.
It's all shaping up that Ole won't get the players he needs anyway. Ed has already put an extra layer of protection around himself so if transfers inevitably go tits up the blame falls on someones else's head. Coupled with the fact he's surrounded himself with people who won't dare say a bad word against the club he's just added an extra layer. Pretty genius really.You're not happy with it but then pray that he gets the players he needs? Can't you see the hypocrisy there man?
So you don't think he has the players he needs right now but still want him out? How does that work?
This is where I lose my rag with Ole outers. They definitely know he's not got the team really and let it slip out like you have yet moan he's 2nd and not 1st or closer to 1st.
Seriously, answer my question. Solskjaer or Pep?
I’m not suggesting I want Ole to go, but I think everyone can see the progress made with the youth team. Ole is the manager however, and will be judged on how the first team is playing.
RedCaf:
If you are supporting the manager of our football club on here, you sound like a Trump supporter.
Grow the fock up, Peril!
Give this man a like, he's laughing at himself!Maybe by idiot fans. But. clearly not by the club or by fans who see bigger pictures.
Might as well. He has 15 I think because he got 8 likesStop baiting that guy to spend his posts per day limit ( is that how it works for newbies?)
Firstly, I did ask you that question, like 5 minutes ago. Scroll up the page.You never asked me that question.
For teh same reason Fergie went with Moyes over Pep, or Jose, or Klopp.
And I've said this a hundred time son here.
We should never hire a manager who only stays 3-4 years at a club. Pep told Fergie he would only stay 3 years, that is why he was never hired. Yes, Woodward would have loved to hire Pep in 2015 when he was being a desperate fecking eejit.
I support Manchester United because we evolved players from our academies into the first team whilst winning major trophies. That's the ONLY way we've ever won major trophies in our entire 140-year history.
Give me long-term planning forever over buying up major stars and placing them within our first team. That wouldn't mean anything to me, doing things teh way Pep/Jose/Klopp do it.
We are Manchester United. The Busby Babes. Fergie's Fledglings. We plan long-term. We recruit from within.
Ole is starting from the bottom line and has recruited eleven of the best young talents in the world. Give me that over signing "world class" ready made stars just to fit in.
Pep or Ole?
If Pep was our manager today, he'd be gone in four years.
Ole is gonna be here for way, way, WAY beyond that.
No surprise you try to credit Ole for everything. We signed promising young players doesn't matter who the manager was. The problem with these "best teenagers in world football" is that they pretty much never make the first team and these 11 won't be an exception. 2-3 might get into the first team squad but the rest won't.Are you for real?
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has turned our club right around from being an absolute Galactico mess.
Since Ole has come in full-time in the last 2 years, we have signed ELEVEN of the best teenagers in world football.We are the envy of world football with what we have been doing. We've snapped up the best player from Real Madrid's academy, best player from Barcelona's academy, best player from Man CIty's academy, best players from south America, from Italy...
Eleven top-quality teenagers.
Amad Diallo
Matej Kovar
Marc Jurado
Willy Kambwala
Alvaro Fernandez Isak
Hansen-Aaroen
Hannibal Mejbri
Charlie McNeill
Joe Hugill
Shola Shoretire
Facundo Pellistri
W'eve actually snapped one of these up - on average - every two months since Ole has come in. And I hear there are two more hot prospects on their way before May.
But of course, a huge number of "supporters" on here wouldn't know that, because they're only interested in the immediate. They have no patience for the future. They would have sacked Matt Busby in 1948 and they would have sacked Sir Alex in 1988. They can't think about the future. It doesn't register in their narrow minds.
Under LvG and Jose we were all about the NOW! Now we are all about the future.. the way our football club should be run.
Ole has totally turned our whole football club around.
I can not fathom how those claiming to be Manchester United fans don't understand that. It's as if they don't know anything about the club they supposedly claim to support.
As Sir Alex Ferguson often says, "when you become Manchester United manager, you are managing a football club, not just a football team".
There is a mammoth difference in those two things.Most fans on here don't understand that. They can't make sense of that. It's pathetic. Imagine not understanding the club you chose to support? Laughable.
Only 'idiot fans' would judge our manager by how the first team is playing? I've never read anything like itMaybe by idiot fans. But clearly not by the club or by fans who see bigger pictures.
What came first, the chicken or the egg?No surprise you try to credit Ole for everything. We signed promising young players doesn't matter who the manager was. The problem with these "best teenagers in world football" is that they pretty much never make the first team and these 11 won't be an exception. 2-3 might get into the first team squad but the rest won't.
Since you are obviously living under the rock you will be surprised to hear that the most successful clubs in the world nowadays are the ones that are all about "NOW". Not 5 years into the future, not 10, not 15. It's about now. The idea that we are different than others and will have Ole being here for 20+ years and winning stuff is mental and is one of the many reasons we are being left behind. Another reason is the quote you mentioned "when you become Manchester United manager, you are managing a football club, not just a football team". Manager shouldn't be managing entire club from top to bottom. The club should have its own structure and vision, manager should be the part of that structure. Us giving too much power to managers is what created this mess in the first place.
Link me to your book so I can bask in your enormous amounts of knowledge about our club?Biggest fecking palm face of the year goes to this post...
You - clearly - have NO CLUE what's been going on at our football club these past two years if you think what Ole is doing goes anywhere near to mirroring the horrible Galactico approach of LvG/Joe. Pathetic 'fan'. Plastic. A virtual fan is what I call the likes of you. Your 'support' is insignificant.
Liverpool weren't thinking ahead 5 years ago, this is nonsense because Klopp reached CL final in his 2nd full season and they weren't planning for his arrival before.What came first, the chicken or the egg?
The most successful clubs in the world are all about "now", because they were thinking about "5 years from now", 5 years ago (Liverpool/City). Or they were always successful in their long term planning and didn't have a mess to fix (Bayern).
Stop making things up.We should NEVER hire a manager who only stays 3-4 years at a club. Pep told Fergie he would only stay 3 years, that is why he was never hired.
If Pep was our manager today, he'd be gone in 3-4 years. And then we\d have to start ALL OVER AGAIN.
Ole is gonna be here for way, way, WAY beyond that.
I guarantee you Pep’s tenure at City will be longer than Ole’s at UnitedYou never asked me that question, mate, At no point did you ask me that question.
But I'll answer it...
For the same reason Fergie went with Moyes over Pep, or Jose, or Klopp.
And I've said this a hundred times on here.
We should NEVER hire a manager who only stays 3-4 years at a club. Pep told Fergie he would only stay 3 years, that is why he was never hired. Yes, Woodward would have loved to hire Pep in 2015 when he was being a desperate fecking eejit, but now Woodward has seen the light and won't be doing that again.
I support Manchester United because we evolved players from our academies into the first team whilst winning major trophies. That's the ONLY way we've ever won major trophies in our entire 140-year history.
Give me long-term planning forever over buying up major stars and placing them within our first team. That wouldn't mean anything to me, doing things the way Pep/Jose/Klopp do it. That's the reason Fergie didn't hire them to follow him. It was too short-termism.
We are Manchester United. The Busby Babes. Fergie's Fledglings. We plan long-term. We recruit from within.
Ole is starting from the bottom line and has recruited eleven of the best young talents in the world. Give me that over signing "world class" ready made stars just to fit in every day of the week for the rest of my life. All true Manchester United fans would say the same thing.
Pep or Ole, you ask...
If Pep was our manager today, he'd be gone in 3-4 years. And then we\d have to start ALL OVER AGAIN.
Ole is gonna be here for way, way, WAY beyond that. Fluidly.
It is not a question. Ole. Always.
I’d much rather that money go to a club legend like Ole than pay for Daddy Glazers’ lap dances.Meh, nothing we didn't already know. This club is run by feckwits. it just means we'll pay out more to Ole when we eventually sack him.
I don't think City got Pep for him to win stuff "5 years from now". They got him to immediately win things and he did. Klopp is also similar. When you get the best managers you expect to win stuff relatively quickly. I don't think there are many clubs in the world that hire the manager for him to transform the entire structure of the club in 5 years. It shouldn't be up to the manager. Manager should be a part of club's vision and existing strategy.What came first, the chicken or the egg?
The most successful clubs in the world are all about "now", because they were thinking about "5 years from now", 5 years ago (Liverpool/City). Or they were always successful in their long term planning and didn't have a mess to fix (Bayern).
Yes but why can't we wait until June? Last time he had a contract, we lost X games in a row.He deserves a new deal, and it was always going to happen. Its really quite a shame to have to keep on reading the disrespect shown for a manager that's taken the team from 6th to 3rd and then (currently) 2nd.
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Yeah he obviously told the players "feck it, I'm in, baby!" during the tactical preparation for those games.Yes but why can't we wait until June? Last time he had a contract, we lost X games in a row.
This is a public dressing down. You have just come back from a short ban. If you want to stay and post on here please tone down your language. You can disagree with other opinions without attacking the posters or being rude.Biggest fecking palm face of the year goes to this post...
You - clearly - have NO CLUE what's been going on at our football club these past two years if you think what Ole is doing goes anywhere near to mirroring the horrible Galactico approach of LvG/Joe. Pathetic 'fan'. Plastic. A virtual fan is what I call the likes of you. Your 'support' is insignificant.
If the club know that they want him here then there's no reason to wait.Yes but why can't we wait until June? Last time he had a contract, we lost X games in a row.
Jesus Christ. Points per game wise Ole is performing at a similar level to van Gaal & is performing worse than Jose. He also hasn’t won a trophy yet, Jose & LVG did. How can Ole be a massive success & his predecessors be massive failures? The statistics really don’t support your argument much at all.Biggest fecking palm face of the year goes to this post...
You - clearly - have NO CLUE what's been going on at our football club these past two years if you think what Ole is doing goes anywhere near to mirroring the horrible Galactico approach of LvG/Joe. Pathetic 'fan'. Plastic. A virtual fan is what I call the likes of you. Your 'support' is insignificant.
you must have missed his three semifinal exits and getting knocked out of the CL group stage.The fecking meltdown in here is genuinely tragic. He’s given this club it’s soul back - it’s like people have forgotten the last days of mourinho where speaking personally I HATED almost everything about the club. He’s built a young, exciting squad which is improving every year and NOT ONCE have we underachieved in a competition relative to the squad he has. We’re actually after the right targets for the first time in nearly a decade. We have some top talents coming through and I have total faith they’ll get the chance to prove themselves under this manager. People moan about the football but in patches we’ve played the best football since SAF. If teams don’t sit back against us and give us some space to operate we destroy them. EVERY team we face adapts how they play to stifle us now. I’m assuming we do have some patterns of play if they set up to stop them...we also press higher up the pitch - something both Tuchel and Pep have stated we’re exceptional at - and now play out from the back...other things that get ignored routinely by the tits on here saying we don’t have coaches. That’s all very clear progress. 3rd last year and 2nd this year would be both jobs well done. Is he better than Pep/Klopp? No but nobody out there is so of course he’s getting a new deal.
Losing to City twice, Chelsea and Seville was UNDERACHIEVING in that competition was it? I think you’ll find they’re all rather good teams. As are RBL and PSG. It was a hard group. The manner that we went out was the issue.you must have missed his three semifinal exits and getting knocked out of the CL group stage.
Wouldn't it send a worse corporate message if he signs a new contract and we go into meltdown? Again? What rush is there? Ole obviously isn't being signed up by any big clubs so there's no fear of losing him. What's the harm of waiting till the end of the season?If the club know that they want him here then there's no reason to wait.
We've announced some high level structural changes this week. Ole is clearly a big part of that. It sends a poor corporate message to have him approaching his last year
To answer your post we are amongst the biggest spenders in the world on transfers.You never asked me that question, mate, At no point did you ask me that question.
But I'll answer it...
For the same reason Fergie went with Moyes over Pep, or Jose, or Klopp.
And I've said this a hundred times on here.
We should NEVER hire a manager who only stays 3-4 years at a club. Pep told Fergie he would only stay 3 years, that is why he was never hired. Yes, Woodward would have loved to hire Pep in 2015 when he was being a desperate fecking eejit, but now Woodward has seen the light and won't be doing that again.
I support Manchester United because we evolved players from our academies into the first team whilst winning major trophies. That's the ONLY way we've ever won major trophies in our entire 140-year history.
Give me long-term planning forever over buying up major stars and placing them within our first team. That wouldn't mean anything to me, doing things the way Pep/Jose/Klopp do it. That's the reason Fergie didn't hire them to follow him. It was too short-termism.
We are Manchester United. The Busby Babes. Fergie's Fledglings. We plan long-term. We recruit from within.
Ole is starting from the bottom line and has recruited eleven of the best young talents in the world. Give me that over signing "world class" ready made stars just to fit in every day of the week for the rest of my life. All true Manchester United fans would say the same thing.
Pep or Ole, you ask...
If Pep was our manager today, he'd be gone in 3-4 years. And then we\d have to start ALL OVER AGAIN.
Ole is gonna be here for way, way, WAY beyond that. Fluidly.
It is not a question. Ole. Always.
I keep reading things like this. So disrespectful.Ole obviously isn't being signed up by any big clubs so there's no fear of losing him. What's the harm of waiting till the end of the season?
Yes, I thought it was inevitable that a new contract would follow once those changes were announced.If the club know that they want him here then there's no reason to wait.
We've announced some high level structural changes this week. Ole is clearly a big part of that. It sends a poor corporate message to have him approaching his last year
When Pirlo is at Juve and Koeman is at fecking Barcelona. You’d swear there was a list of 100 world class managers out there just waiting to be hired.I keep reading things like this. So disrespectful.
Hes come into one of the biggest jobs in football. A giant of a club, one that was in a rut with a mess of a squad, and he's delivered progress.
People still talk as though no other club would ever touch him with a bargepole. The PE teacher stigma has deep roots with some
I don't care how good they are. You said Ole has NOT ONCE UNDERACHIEVED in any competition. Even used capital letters like a big boy to try and boost your argument. We were favorites against Chelsea and Sevilla and we were favored to make it out of the CL group. So you are wrong. He has UNDERACHIEVED in three different competitions by my count.Losing to City twice, Chelsea and Seville was UNDERACHIEVING in that competition was it? I think you’ll find they’re all rather good teams. As are RBL and PSG. It was a hard group. The manner that we went out was the issue.
No other top club with ambitions of winning the CL or a big league will hire him. Ask yourself honestly where you think his next job after united will be.I keep reading things like this. So disrespectful.
Hes come into one of the biggest jobs in football. A giant of a club, one that was in a rut with a mess of a squad, and he's delivered progress.
People still talk as though no other club would ever touch him with a bargepole. The PE teacher stigma has deep roots with some