Mane. More of an impact player.
Son v Mane
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Son is not more talented than Mane. In fact, in terms of pure footballing ability I'd say Mane is more talented. Son is physically more gifted. I know vast majority of posters went for Mane, but I'm amazed that anyone actually went for Son. Regarding the Jota comment, do you not remember Mane at Southampton? He had stunning performances (against big teams).
Son is a situational player - give him the right kind of opportunities and he is likely to come alive.
Mane is a complete player - just by being on the pitch, he is a threat at any given moment and can make things happen outside of the team schematic or via reliance on others to provide him with chances.
You're not going to turn your nose up at Son, as he's a very useful player to have, but Mane is, in himself a catalyst that can turn the fortunes of a team on a whim. Players that reach that level, and can do it season after season can be counted on your hands and possibly toes, if you're being kind.
Mane has done everything to be compared to the best players in his position in the world. Son is not in those kind of discussions or company and won't be until he can turn streaks of out of this world form into an intrinsic component of his game. He'll also need to do it against the best opposition the CL has to offer. Mane is odds on to have a great game against any team and any opposing full-back irrespective of what his team-mates are performing like, his kind of competition is Neymar and the like who can say the same thing.
I really like Son and would have him at OT in a heartbeat, but Mane is the kind of player who you genuinely expect to turn contenders into champions, or at least do his bit in making it possible.
Mane is a complete player - just by being on the pitch, he is a threat at any given moment and can make things happen outside of the team schematic or via reliance on others to provide him with chances.
You're not going to turn your nose up at Son, as he's a very useful player to have, but Mane is, in himself a catalyst that can turn the fortunes of a team on a whim. Players that reach that level, and can do it season after season can be counted on your hands and possibly toes, if you're being kind.
Mane has done everything to be compared to the best players in his position in the world. Son is not in those kind of discussions or company and won't be until he can turn streaks of out of this world form into an intrinsic component of his game. He'll also need to do it against the best opposition the CL has to offer. Mane is odds on to have a great game against any team and any opposing full-back irrespective of what his team-mates are performing like, his kind of competition is Neymar and the like who can say the same thing.
I really like Son and would have him at OT in a heartbeat, but Mane is the kind of player who you genuinely expect to turn contenders into champions, or at least do his bit in making it possible.
I’d have Son but it’s a coin flip as to who is better
Great analysis , let me put it this way Martial and Rashford are closer to Son then Son being closer to Mane in terms of sheer Impact on the pitch.
Obviously Mane but Son has had brilliant consistency now for the last 3 seasons
What are you on a about? Son shot Spurs almost singlehandedly to CL final a couple of years ago. Without Kane in the starting line up. He had more impact that season than mane did in any cl season liverpool had.
People underestimate how clinical Son is. Kane is racking up all kind of easy assists, because Son is scoring everything. He has like 10 goals on 13 shots. Son is the most clinical player in the league.
I seem to remember another Spurs player scoring an unlikely hat-trick in a semi-final to put them through? Son was great, but I wouldn't call that single-handedly.
They're different players. Mane is slightly better overall, but Son seems more useful in a team that's not quite top class yet.
For us I'd choose Son over Mane. Though it would probably be wiser to take Mane from Liverpool so that they go from 6 top class players to just 5
For us I'd choose Son over Mane. Though it would probably be wiser to take Mane from Liverpool so that they go from 6 top class players to just 5
I'm biased obviously, but I'd go for Mane on account of his allround game and the fact that he has absolutely loads of bottle and is our go-to guy when the chips are down and nothing else seems to be working.
Son has definitely gone up a level in the last 2 years, but I think Mane is a genuinely world class player who is consistent so you'd have to pick him, but Son is not far behind at all.
I really enjoy watching Son, thank god Tottenham didn't sign Bruno also. Imagine having Son and Bruno working in the same team!?
I really enjoy watching Son, thank god Tottenham didn't sign Bruno also. Imagine having Son and Bruno working in the same team!?
Mane... c'mon guys Pedro is loads better apparently
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/sadio-mané.402444/
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/sadio-mané.408248/
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/sadio-mané.402444/
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/sadio-mané.408248/
They'd win the league(they may win anyways, though). Bruno, Son, Kane + Bergwijn/Bale and fullbacks capable of overlapping is genuinely a world class attack.
The most clinical player in the league with 14 goals as his top tally in a league season. Yeah right.
Also to say that Son dragged them to the final two seasons ago is simply not true, I suggest you watch the game in Amsterdam again if you think that's true.
Savage that.
Actually makes me wonder if Woodward pulled the plug after seeing the fan reactions.
Rashford would do a very good Son impression if he had Kane feeding him. Neither are anything close to Mane who’s just a compete footballer
He has Bruno feeding him, its not Rashford's ability its his consistency that's the problem.
Pretty much this, on current form I would take Son no questions over Mane. But if you look over their careers Mane is simply the better player.
As stated, currently, on form, yeah Son is better. But you cannot ignore the fact Mane has been an absolute beast the last two seasons, something like 18 goals and 22 goals in the league plus assists. add to that his defensive tenacity and his all round game and you see why Mane comes out on top. That is not to say Son is not a good player, he clearly is a fantastic player that most teams would have in a heartbeat.
He cost Spurs somewhere around 22mil which is an absolute steal.
Our fans are quite the crystal ball gazers arent they? But then again every half baked youth player is a future legend, every young Ronaldo needs to be sold because they are too inconsistent, and spending 100m doesnt matter because it shows we are a BIG club.
TBH, I dont and I remember many posters on here saying he wasnt good enough for us etc at the time. Obviously all very wrong. And dont get me wrong, I think Mane is excellent and would take him in a heart beat at united.
Son is more talented though in my view, the only evidence I have I guess are the catalogue of worldies he has scored.....I accept it is only my opinion howver and not a fact.
Mane, for me only below Salah and Neymar.
It's Harry Kane.
Yeah it's no slight on Son, he and Rashford have quite a few similarities and both could do with being more consistent over a season, although, with Rashford, age and maturity play their hand there. I think Son is slowly entering what will be his prime now, however; it won't be a surprise to see him become a more permanent fixture in terms of dependability as opposed to someone who goes hot for a period then tapers off below what should be the bar for his ability for a while on the other end.
He's a player very few teams in the league would hesitate to start.
I don't really know where to start with this: 'single-handedly' did what now?
Mane makes teams change and conform to contain him; he doesn't need anything to be optimal to have an outstanding game, and if things aren't working out for him in one manner, he can completely flip the script and involve himself in a totally different way. His intelligence and understanding allied to his manic work-rate in both directions also mean whilst he's figuring things out (how best to hurt the opposition), he's not giving them a moment's rest. In short, he is a nightmare to contend with and it doesn't just come down to goals and assists - you can be assured he plays a hand in goals he's not credited for in terms of: dummy runs; secondary assists; decoy runs; pressing that leads to turnovers and rapid counters and everything inbetween.
It's not a hype job, he's simply one of the best players in the position in the world and by every metric, he is in the conversation.
What should be interesting is where these two end up at the end of the season as opposed to now. Mane is in a superior team with superior players, but Son is practically one of two that everything is funneled to for any success Spurs are likely to have - both have major roles and key functions in their teams so it won't simply be a case of better team = more likelihood of Mane being the better in terms of output. That'll come down to who remains more consistent throughout an entire season, which is a ball that is in Mane's court until Son catches up to that kind of output even during the leaner spells.
Son, easily.
I've got Mane in my Fantasy Premier League draft - and I tell you what, I'd rather have Son in there now instead of Mane.
I had to drop VvD and then Gomez because Mings was far better in FF. Go figure.
Anyway as a Liverpool fan I would love to have Son in my team, but only next to Mane. If it was a direct replacement I would seriously worry about us winning the league again. That's not a dig at Son, or Klopp for that matter.
Even when Mane is not scoring or assisting you just can't buy an alternative to what Mane brings.