But "he deserves credit" when they beat worse teams than them with negative tactics, no?
Southgate doesn’t get the credit he deserves
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Bizarre stuff
Pure karma justice pays out
That was a braindead penalty selections tbh
Not a very good manager.
Majority of subs have been shit during the tournament
Majority of subs have been shit during the tournament
Absolute cnut for the position he just put those three lads in.
Predictable, use your fecking bench when you have time. Be proactive not reactive.
Coward.
Coward.
Poor man management put too much pressure on the younger lads. Should have had the likes of Henderson etc more experience needed.
feck him the coward.
He has to be fired.
I'm sort of glad they won. Southgate has screwed his squad over. He is not a good man manager.
He's a smooth brain
feck him. couldn't take sterling and walker off earlier and let these guys get their nerves out
Cowardly lineup, absolutely bottled this final. His obsession with a 19 year old over the most exciting player in the league leads to this inevitable outcome.
Shouldn't the thread title be "Southgate doesn't get the criticism he deserves"? Utterly pathetic and negative manager, glad he didn't win it. Felt sorry for the players.
Almost evil choosing a 19 yo to take the last pen!
Why the feck are did they let a child take the last kick. Idiots
Feck him. Atrocious decision.
Spineless brainless waistcoat wanker.
His decision making in the final was atrocious
Don't care what anyone says, he is not as good a manager everyone claims. The wealth of talent he has and the way he played was a disgrace. Rather make Mourinho the manager.
Lost England the game. My scapegoat.
Why did they rely on young Players to take pens. Maybe England wasn't ready yet, but I feel sorry for Sancho, Rashford and Saka.
This was the golden chance. Does anyone really believe that England are going to be serious contenders at the World Cup? So new contract for Southgate and more years of false dawns.
Did well to reach the finals playing that trash 18th century style of football but ultimately he cost the trophy it I think. So much attacking talent in that England squad but he would rather play 11 defenders if he could. Terrible.
Will never get fired, because we love heroic losses, but we'll never win anything with him in charge.
His game and squad management is awful, played for pens from 35 minutes, without even the good sense to give us a threat on the break.
He's holding back an incredibly talented squad.
His game and squad management is awful, played for pens from 35 minutes, without even the good sense to give us a threat on the break.
He's holding back an incredibly talented squad.
People will defend him and say it’s a lottery but that is unforgivable for me and shows a complete lack of man management and even basic logic.
Two players who hadn’t even warmed up or gotten a bit of time on the pitch and an overawed youngster.
It should be unforgivable for England fans. I would always be doubting his judgement after that. Mind boggling and amateur, and I really don’t think that’s harsh.
He lost England the game through pure negativity. Embarrassing way to lose.
Why did he wait to literally the last minute of the game before subbing Rashford and Sancho on, way to go in telling you players you don't really trust them and then expect them to shoot penalties with confidence? What a moron.
That was entirely brain dead management tonight. How does he not bring Rashford or Sancho on for the extra time.
Their pace on the counter would have been perfect for a tiring and ageing defence. 118th minute really.
Rashford was told 15 mins before that he will have only 1 penalty to take. Why was Saka taking the last one. Youngest player in their XI at the end.
Their pace on the counter would have been perfect for a tiring and ageing defence. 118th minute really.
Rashford was told 15 mins before that he will have only 1 penalty to take. Why was Saka taking the last one. Youngest player in their XI at the end.
As joker said, ya get what ya fecking deserve
This. England say way to deep, way too early. Didn't really try for much of the second half.
I just want to say that I am proud of my thread, combining veiled criticism of the England squad and manager with the power of the jinx.
Got to the final in spite of him. Cowardly tactics in the final and got played off the pitch but grinded out a penalty shoot out, and then made some idiotic decisions to set the penalty order.
This is on Southgate 100%. Without a doubt.
This is on Southgate 100%. Without a doubt.
Both?
Southgate is a shit manager who's just lucky with not just the quality his squad has but also with some very lucky draws in every cup. England's draws towards WC semi and Euro final was basically no big teams except Germany in one of its worst state. England's quality can beat the likes of Ukraine or Sweden any time.
He's just a pretty damn lucky guy, shit but lucky.
He's just a pretty damn lucky guy, shit but lucky.
How can your tactic be to defend a one goal lead for 88 minutes. Ridiculous.
Nothing I’ve seen in this tournament has made me change my opinion that he is wasting one of the best squads in world football, and they get where they are despite him, not because of him.
Special mention to sending an 18 year old out to take the final penalty because oh my god.
Nothing I’ve seen in this tournament has made me change my opinion that he is wasting one of the best squads in world football, and they get where they are despite him, not because of him.
Special mention to sending an 18 year old out to take the final penalty because oh my god.
It was a joke to bring on two young players to take a penalty. Two players who have barely featured, one of which is struggling with injuries. Absolute joke of a decision from Southgate. And then when you have to score you let the youngest player on the pitch take it. What the actual feck. Shocking manager.
He is a poor manager. Mancini would have won that for England easily.