Just saw the 2nd trailer and it just doesn't make any sense at all.
Film Star Wars Episode IX The Rise of Skywalker [Theories]
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Ok. This teaser and the "possible plot" leak have got me worried for sure. So worried that I've decided to read a complete plot summary (wikipedia) before going to the cinema. I won't make the same mistake that I did with TLJ, when illusion-expectations were high (after TFA's very ending and R1), just to leave the theater completely baffled, until sober anger kicked in the following morning. At this point, entering the cinema knowing what I'm going to see and how the story is going to end is a lot more important to me than another glass of bitter-unexpected disappoinment (TLJ). Thanks, Ruin the Freak Johnson: I'll be forced to read a plot summary of ROS before seeing the actual movie: illusion and hype have turned into concern, fear and doubts; that's my current SW trauma, and it's your fault. Go feck yourself.
The leak reads as something JJ would def create based on old-unused Lucas ideas for the ST. Other than Han appearing as Force Ghost (the feck? only force masters, dark or light, can achieve that), this leak is still better than the entirety of TLJ.
The leak reads as something JJ would def create based on old-unused Lucas ideas for the ST. Other than Han appearing as Force Ghost (the feck? only force masters, dark or light, can achieve that), this leak is still better than the entirety of TLJ.
I think Ryan Johnson fecked this thing up so much, there's just no way to redeem it as a trilogy, but maybe the final instalment might turn out ok as a stand alone star wars movie.
The new trilogy should never be referred to as episodes VII VIII & IX. Episodes I - VI were all about the rise of the empire and Luke's destiny. That's all completed.
All this latest shit about Rey should be regarded as a new dumb trilogy.
The new trilogy should never be referred to as episodes VII VIII & IX. Episodes I - VI were all about the rise of the empire and Luke's destiny. That's all completed.
All this latest shit about Rey should be regarded as a new dumb trilogy.
this is gonna be true isn't it? JJ, half the writing team of BvS?Yep, what could go wrong. You're a Wizard Palpy...
Your thoughts about TLJ are exactly how I feel about it. A good friend who had seen the film before I did warned me about the story. I thought there was no way it could be true.
I'm not a big JJ Abrams fan, but it would be nearly impossible to feck things up more than TLJ. That's what I tell myself anyway. We'll see.
This is what worries me a little - Terrio. He wrote the script for Argo, which was pretty good, but since then he's done Batman vs. Superman and Justice League which, yikes.
Yep, what could go wrong. You're a Wizard Palpy...
Thanks. With the prequels I felt that they were bad movies telling great SW stories set before SW'77, but TLJ was like witnessing a 2 hours of ridiculously bad-random fan fiction. A bad movie but a good SW story? I can live with that. A so-so movie + awful fan fiction butchering SW? End of the line for me.
I'll read the plot summary of ROS, and then I'll watch it, in that order. At this point, the story of ROS is a lot more important to me than the cinematic quality of it.
Then again, Michael Green was one of the writers of Green Lantern, but then co-wrote Blade Runner 2049 and Logan. Never quite as simple as - he wrote x, and therefore is a bad/good writer.
Tbf we'll never really know what he wrote for Justice League since DC brought in Joss Whedon to "fix" the writing making it more light hearted, removing evil Superman and adding lols.
The guy who wrote The Hangover also wrote and was the showrunner for Chernobyl. Sometimes the writer can only be as good as the source material and demands of the production company.
The Drinker is a legend!
Now I'm not saying that plot leak is definitely true, but when I read it I just thought "Aye, this is JJ and KK!! This is the dream!! You get to rehash another film and Rey conquers another man."
I found him recently when looking up stuff on game of Thrones, his rants are always spot on
Yeah and even though I don't always agree with him, his style is highly entertaining. I like his gaming stuff too even though it's a lot less popular than his angry rants.
A 5 hour adaptation of Svetlana Alexiévich. Sometimes the writer can only be as good as the source material indeed, including an original literary work.
IX is random fan fiction (JJ) and that's what worries me.
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It's funny how low expectations seem to be for this film.
I remember when ROTS came out people still seemed pretty excited about it even though the first two prequels were bad but all I see towards Episode 9 is negativity.
Perhaps that will end up helping it though. If everyone is expecting another disaster like Last Jedi then all they have to do is serve up something competent and people will be happy.
I remember when ROTS came out people still seemed pretty excited about it even though the first two prequels were bad but all I see towards Episode 9 is negativity.
Perhaps that will end up helping it though. If everyone is expecting another disaster like Last Jedi then all they have to do is serve up something competent and people will be happy.
That double bladed lightsaber though. How stupid is it? It's laughable. Two lightsabres is fine. Darth Maul style lightsabre is great. That thing though, what purpose does that serve? None. It's a lame attempt to sell toys.
Disney accidentally leaked a plot point:
Disney accidentally leaked a plot point:
Dark Rey is a vision. Which seemed obvious to me, they aren't going to have their strong female do anything evil or fail in any way.
Looks awesome though.
Really? Can't argue taste, but awesome is a word I'd never in a million alternative universes would use for what they have shown us.
'Lame attempt to sell toys' could sum up Star Wars at any time in the last 42 years. Why is it an issue now?
It's a stupid looking design. At least the curved handles and Darth Maul's double blades made some sort of sense.
It's a design that has been used in canon (clone wars,rebels). I have not seen them so I don't know the reseaning behind the design, but it does have a history in SW.
Which doesn't stop it from being stupid looking. I've seen it in some animated show before and it was stupid then. Possibly Rebels.
I think it was Rebels that managed to make lightsabres look awful. They looked like just thin bits of plastic, then there was a guy with some sort of helicopter rotating version. It's all gotten a bit out of hand really. Even the blades now aren't just straight energy blades, they have to crackle and spit plasma.
I don't know, maybe it will look better when you see in action? You never know. I'm not sold on it myself yet, but I'll wait and see.
Someone post that Star Wars EU character whose got half a dozen lightsabers sticking out his legs and arms.
Where was it leaked?
I imagine it was an intentional leak if they did - they probably didn't want months of speculation on a dark side for their Mary Sue
It was on the Star Wars website then they realised and changed it.
Maul's version looked a nightmare to lug around. This one will fit handily on a belt. For the sith that's alway on the go.
Cheers, thanks
Just seen this. Get that in this flick, go full ret...Stiller in that Oscar bait!
The lightsabre looks awesome I mean.
I don't know spoliers, and don't want to know, but if I had to guess I think that it's a clone of Rey with that saber. Look at a still image of it, it looks like a CGI Daisy Ridley.
I kind of agree - I think JJ is probably the right guy to salvage it - Johnson almost single handedly destroyed the entire franchise so I sincerely hope Disney have learnt their lesson - just give the fans what they want.
Yeah, no worries, got you the first time. Talked about it as well.
Ok no problem - well all I can say is that it stoked my little star wars fires and I wanted one just like it. The cool sound it made when it wooshed over and connected as a whole piece was great - I'm a big child.
I didn't realise they actually used them to fly. Fecking hell.Darth Maul being alive remains the stupidest part of that scene or any scene.
Hey being cut in half and falling down a massive shaft doesn't have to mean you are dead. It's the force and all that. Palps is back after all!
Darth Maul being alive remains the stupidest part of that scene or any scene.
No one's ever really gone...
The galaxy far, far away. Where falling down big shafts is just a minor inconvenience. Getting cut in half can be walked off.
Maul surviving was silly but it's the Star Wars Universe .. he's a character who has control over a mystical force.
The explanation for his survival was the same as the reason Vader survived being chopped in half then melting for a large period of time in lava. He channelled the dark side of the force and that hatred kept him alive.
Obviously it's dumb. It's star wars.
The explanation for his survival was the same as the reason Vader survived being chopped in half then melting for a large period of time in lava. He channelled the dark side of the force and that hatred kept him alive.
Obviously it's dumb. It's star wars.