Imma miss that hot crazy bitch in the next Mando season.
Why couldn't my eye candy just shut up and take the money. What's wrong with people
Television Star Wars: Obi-Wan Kenobi
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Why couldn't my eye candy just shut up and take the money. What's wrong with people
How the feck are they going to replace James Earl Jones as the voice of Darth Vader when he eventually passes? Just as iconic as the black suit itself.
The show definitely looks and feels cheap at times but feck it, just give me Obi Wan and Vader scenes and I'm happy.
The show definitely looks and feels cheap at times but feck it, just give me Obi Wan and Vader scenes and I'm happy.
The absolutely horrendous transformation of Vader to 'evil' in Revenge of the Sith have really hurt the Vader character for me, it's like really hard to ignore the fact that's what we're supposed to believe is him.
But other than that, it's still probably better than anything Star Wars related in my lifetime ... but I've not watched the Mandalorian.
But other than that, it's still probably better than anything Star Wars related in my lifetime ... but I've not watched the Mandalorian.
Let's be honest Vader has made this show, it'd be pretty average without his presence.
Agreed with all that. And yeah for a big budget show it doesn't look great.
It was JEJ yes, but they also used AI as well.
The AI has improved since Rogue One.
It was very much more ESB Vader in this episode.
Remember, they are using the stage and volume for this, so it's going to look and feel a certain way, as has the other Star Wars shows.
It would be nice to see some more grittier places, but it's still down to the quality of writing.
Yeah it's noticeable. I thought Vader sounded older in Rogue One than he does in A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back. Nice to see how much effort they're making, like they did with Luke in Mando vs how he looks in Book of Boba.
I do agree with this.. much how Mando made Boba Fett interesting.
I was kinda hoping for more from Obi-Wan.. hopefully he livens up a bit as the season goes on.
Exactly how I felt. There are some unforgiveable directing and production choices so far IMO.
The Obi/Vader slow chase in the mining field was silly to me in a scene that was clearly supposed to be menacing. As weak as Obi is once Vadar sees him there's no way he should even be able to get away at all.
I know we are meant to think Vadar is toying with him and stringing out the inevitable torture, but I felt like it needed to be filmed differently again so it was clear there were obstacles "helping" Obi not just be immediately force held. That said the end with the fire was good and dark.
I know we are meant to think Vadar is toying with him and stringing out the inevitable torture, but I felt like it needed to be filmed differently again so it was clear there were obstacles "helping" Obi not just be immediately force held. That said the end with the fire was good and dark.
Why can't anyone act properly?* The only actual iffy actor is Hayden Christensen, and he hasn't done nothing yet! How do you make a scene between Ewan McGregor and Indira Varma stilted and shit?
*tbf, the little girl is good. But Ewan seems like he got his lines about 5 minutes before the cameras rolled.
The little girl is really good. I'm surprised they dared cast a child as a younger version of an original character after the horrendous treatment of Jake Lloyd though.
I’d agree with this. Good story, pacing, and production design. Acting was ok. Directing left a bit to be desired, but all things said a fun, enjoyable watch that has successfully channeled the ethos of the better films.
I'm really enjoying it so far.
Me, too. I think, overall, Disney have been pretty good for the franchise.
I agree I have enjoyed the contents of some of the episodes but I don't think Disney objectively will be good value for the star wars franchise In the long run. I think they'll massively milk the series as oppose to giving it a creative and dynamic direction.
The same criticism we see with the Marvel films is the sort of seasoning Disney are reminiscent of. They have totally nullified the ability to make truly outstanding content with their strategy. Look at the state of the Lucas related movies they've released the last installment was a good summation of their deficiencies. It was game of thrones level stuff, rushed with no impactful intent.
Same.
I always felt like Vader in the OT should have been more menacing/unhinged.
He was the very definition of that in the latest episode.
Dark side villains feel a bit obsolete to me. Especially the dude in the samurai hat. He's saterday morning cartoon level bad.
I will watch it becayse it's Star Wars, but still feel Disney are slowly (not slowly at all) destroying the mysticism that surrounded Star Wars and its characters.
We can all buy our children the new cute robot though, so who cares.
I will watch it becayse it's Star Wars, but still feel Disney are slowly (not slowly at all) destroying the mysticism that surrounded Star Wars and its characters.
We can all buy our children the new cute robot though, so who cares.
What was mystical about a bloke wearing an ant helmet in the first place though.
Amazing that they put the "I have the high ground" bit in the recap.
Is this really the case, or do you think it might be because you're growing older ?
I personally think Disney have brought the franchise back to life, when at one point you thought that any more Star Wars would have been flogging a dead horse.
Okay, we are probably getting a bit too much content but quite a lot of it has been enjoyable.
Saying that, I’m one of the only people that would pick Episode 7 as the best of the sequel trilogy and up there with the original trilogy so my opinion may not be valid.
Okay, we are probably getting a bit too much content but quite a lot of it has been enjoyable.
Saying that, I’m one of the only people that would pick Episode 7 as the best of the sequel trilogy and up there with the original trilogy so my opinion may not be valid.
A bit of a mixed bag for me. On one hand, the 4 recent films have been very good (not particularly hard given the previous 3 that Lucas put out 20 years ago). On the other hand, the series have been a bit hit or miss. Mandalorian was ok, didn't particularly care for Boba Fett, but Obi Wan has been absolutely fantastic for a variety of reasons.
What they should've done is started with Obi Wan first, then branched out to other series with some of the ancillary characters instead of doing it backwards as they have.
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Sequels? What sequels? I don’t remember any sequels
When the Inquisitors are lined up outside the house and then you hear Vaders breathing was a brilliant moment, real goosebumps stuff
Also how does Reva know Darth Vader is Anakin Skywalker? Wasnt that a super closely guarded secret after RoTS? Im assuming she was able to rip it from Obi Wans mind as opposed to everyone knowing
There's just something a bit off with this show. The acting, direction, production, music is all a level below what it should be. Also, it feels like all the villains are restricted to walking pace.
The directing is definitely a bit off. No issues with the acting, production design, sound design etc. We do have to remember that this is a TV show with on a relatively small budget when compared to the films
The bit that got me was when Vader briefly paused to recognize Obi-Wan's presence through the force, before having actually seen him.When the Inquisitors are lined up outside the house and then you hear Vaders breathing was a brilliant moment, real goosebumps stuff
Also how does Reva know Darth Vader is Anakin Skywalker? Wasnt that a super closely guarded secret after RoTS? Im assuming she was able to rip it from Obi Wans mind as opposed to everyone knowing
No, it's the children who are out of touch!
I think Ingram has been great as a villain... Really menacing and with a good presence.
Anyway, really enjoying this. Episode 3 was great... Vader just straight up murdering folk was quite something.
Also really liked the world of Episode 2...I'm always keen to see the dark under belly of the Star Wars universe.
Anyway, really enjoying this. Episode 3 was great... Vader just straight up murdering folk was quite something.
Also really liked the world of Episode 2...I'm always keen to see the dark under belly of the Star Wars universe.
We went decades off and on without any content, but it's not about content, but quality.
Disney screwed up the sequals and then messed up again by trying to backtrack etc.
Hopefully, things will get better going forward
A wise approach that I've also adopted.
Disney have been absolutely terrible for Star Wars, which should have been obvious when they binned the entire EU and replaced it with the tripe we're seeing now.
That being said, watching Obi-Wan and Vader scenes still has a lot of nostalgia credit in the bank for me. Also, little Leia is great.
That was a superb episode. Really enjoyed that.
Loved it. I’ve enjoyed all the series to be honest. Certainly better than the last couple of films.
I'm enjoying it a lot but so far I think it's not as good as the Mandalorian.
Yeah, that's why half the internet hates it and after the second movie people refused to go to the cinema, making solo a bomb.
My opinion, no spoilers:
I've watched the show, so the good:
- fantastic acting. Ewan Mcgregor is an artist; some of the new characters are superb too, fantastic casting, especially in the more difficult areas.
- it looks amazing. From the set pieces to the cinematography it's all superb.
- the writing in dialogue is very good. Like really, really good. I don't want to spoil anything, but even dialogue that had the capacity to be cringe, is made super well.
The bad:
-there are a lot of things that relate to character behavior and new characters abilities but, being only part of the story, it's difficult to say things with conviction. Some characters look stupid and others OP in intelligence (it does not make sense for knowing what they know).
At this point, I'd say it's both amazing as it is predictable as a Kathleen Kennedy woke piece. Where it actually lands, we will see. I have high hopes that it's going to be a good story serving to distance SW more from the train wreck that were the sequels but, it can also land on the most offensive story telling series ever by making incompetence off all except the "one".
Can you expand on this ?
I can but not in this thread for obvious reasons, as it relates to the possible conclusion of the show.
Nothing makes me roll my eyes harder then a serious use of the term "woke"
God I feckin hate that word.
God I feckin hate that word.
Not once in 34 years have I ever thought 'you know what I appreciate about Star Wars, how all the characters are a mystery.'