Statement by Manchester United (more than a week ago at a fan forum event)

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What loads of BS. Do they think this statement is going to make us feel better about our crap form ?
 

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I am am tired of this copy and paste shit. Where is the DOF? What is our transfer policy? What are our targets this season? What is Ole doing with thw squad? We need sone proper questions answered?
The transfer policy is something that surely is as clear as day. It's not a particularly dynamic policy that's going to take you to first immediately, but it's definitely there.
 

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Ugh we could have done without such a quote coming out now. To me it essentially attempts to whitewash the issues and portray things are being on the right path. None of us are ever going to buy that, considering their recent track record, until we see some results and action from it.
 

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Yeah the clear out was needed, and we still need part of a clear out but its not that bad I think. Sending some of them out on loan shows that it is just hard for us to sell players because of past mistakes, but it is what it is. Yes we'll have struggles this season, but I simply can't say that last summer wasnt a positive one because it absolutely was. It just wasn't enough, but still far better than pretty much every summer post Sir Alex. Yes we still need a lot of investment, but heres the thing; every club always needs investment - each and every summer. We just need to play catch up for one summer and do it properly.
  • Sign Sancho, or if not possible another true right winger who will be an automatic starter
  • Sign Maddison, or if not possible another automatic starter as the attacking mid
  • Sign a holding midfielder who will be an automatic starter
  • Sign quality depth for the striker position to give us something else if needed (someone like Haller wouldve been very good IMO)
Yeah, that's £300m that we're looking at assuming nobody significant goes. But that's what is needed if we want to be a top team again. Top teams need basically £100m most summers to simply maintain their level and refresh certain parts. We need an extra £200m to get to where we should be, and then the standard refresh investments on top of that. Probably wouldnt be enough to get Ole into winning the title, but it would be enough to get us competitive, playing like a top team and in position for a future manager to actually turn us into title winners. So I dont have an issue with Ole being here overseeing this transition while we look for that top manager, because we know what needs to be done regardless of manager and who knows, it might all work out anyway.
This would get us a 3rd or 4th place competitive first team. We would also need substantial investment not to fall out of the running with our first injury. Plus more players to cover for CL football. A well spent 500 or 600 million is more reasonable for a sustained league and CL run.
 

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United need to be cleansed. Our business model is too successful and the money is not being invested. Relegation sounds good.
 

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This would get us a 3rd or 4th place competitive first team. We would also need substantial investment not to fall out of the running with our first injury. Plus more players to cover for CL football. A well spent 500 or 600 million is more reasonable for a sustained league and CL run.
it’s not only money and players. As the previous £900m we’ve spent have shown.
 

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We’re going to see a complete change of direction in the next couple of years. It has already started with the shift in our recruitment policy over the Summer. I imagine Pep and Klopp will not be around for much longer and I’d say by about 2023 United will be the number 1. There are too many resources at this club for the cycle to not come back round to us.
 

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This would get us a 3rd or 4th place competitive first team. We would also need substantial investment not to fall out of the running with our first injury. Plus more players to cover for CL football. A well spent 500 or 600 million is more reasonable for a sustained league and CL run.
I think the 3 starters and then the 1 depth attacker, sorting out left back, some expected development in youth and the squad would be more than good enough for consistent top 4 even with Ole. To win the title over Liverpool and City we'd need a manager who can compete with them, which doesnt exist right now. They arent going to be there forever though, and with our young squad, we'll probably peak as they leave anyway. With this plan I'm pretty confident that we'd be able to push for the top honors if we had one of Klopp or Pep in charge. So all we can do is build the squad to be competitive regardless of manager, and then look for a manager that can actually bridge the gap to give that bit extra to win titles.
 

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I don't know any other top club that is in such a state that they feel the need to release a statement! Surely that's a taken for granted that the club should be wanting to fight for trophies.

What the fans want, and won't get, is a revamp of the top wigs who have ruined the club over the last few years and get a better structure in place
 

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I don't think anybody believes that statement. It's actually embarrassing that the club feel the need to make the statement and shows where we're at right now as a club.

If the club believes in what it says, then we need.
  1. Separate Woodward from the buying side of things and put in place somebody who knows how to build a side.
  2. Appoint a manager we believe in, give him time, and build around his way of playing (Nagelsmann, Poch, Howe, Rodgers) - Solskjaer isn't and will never be good enough, so forget this sentiment in giving him time.
  3. Finally get rid of the rot in this squad (Young, Rojo, Jones, Bailly, Matic, Mata, and Pogba, just because he doesn't want to be here, and that means he doesn't give 100%)
  4. Spend the money that we as a football club earns.
Put this in place, and we can progress over the coming years.
 

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On one hand, this is one of those times where you would think it’s better to say nothing than release a spin piece like this because it’s not going to do any good. On the other hand, it shows that they’re aware things aren’t in a good place right now, and that the fans are disgruntled, so maybe in the grand scheme of things it’s a good thing?
 

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No point moaning about it now. Support the team till the end of January and IF we haven’t seen significant investment like they mentioned in the statement.. then it’s time for answers.

They have given us the tool and quotes to hold them accountable for so be patient. Let’s not heap even more pressure on everyone at the club.

Remember everyone wants us to fail - let not give them anymore satisfaction, we must stick together.
 

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Yeah the clear out was needed, and we still need part of a clear out but its not that bad I think. Sending some of them out on loan shows that it is just hard for us to sell players because of past mistakes, but it is what it is. Yes we'll have struggles this season, but I simply can't say that last summer wasnt a positive one because it absolutely was. It just wasn't enough, but still far better than pretty much every summer post Sir Alex. Yes we still need a lot of investment, but heres the thing; every club always needs investment - each and every summer. We just need to play catch up for one summer and do it properly.
  • Sign Sancho, or if not possible another true right winger who will be an automatic starter
  • Sign Maddison, or if not possible another automatic starter as the attacking mid
  • Sign a holding midfielder who will be an automatic starter
  • Sign quality depth for the striker position to give us something else if needed (someone like Haller wouldve been very good IMO)
Yeah, that's £300m that we're looking at assuming nobody significant goes. But that's what is needed if we want to be a top team again. Top teams need basically £100m most summers to simply maintain their level and refresh certain parts. We need an extra £200m to get to where we should be, and then the standard refresh investments on top of that. Probably wouldnt be enough to get Ole into winning the title, but it would be enough to get us competitive, playing like a top team and in position for a future manager to actually turn us into title winners. So I dont have an issue with Ole being here overseeing this transition while we look for that top manager, because we know what needs to be done regardless of manager and who knows, it might all work out anyway.
Actually we dont need 300m. If rightly scouted, there are so many gems of signings available for lesser than that. For some reason, we dont seem to be looking in that line.

Buying british will certainly cost 300m though. Maddison and Sancho will eat up 200m. Then we might go for Rice and Dembele .
McT-Rice-Maddison
Sancho-Martial-Rashford

Not great, certainly not 300m worth might just be good for a top 4.
 

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Actually we dont need 300m. If rightly scouted, there are so many gems of signings available for lesser than that. For some reason, we dont seem to be looking in that line.

Buying british will certainly cost 300m though. Maddison and Sancho will eat up 200m. Then we might go for Rice and Dembele .
McT-Rice-Maddison
Sancho-Martial-Rashford

Not great, certainly not 300m worth might just be good for a top 4.
Agree with that (though I would love maddison and sancho), more just saying the sort we need and we all know we're after Sancho and Maddison in some sense. Needs to be the right signings, but without being ridiculous and saying things like Messi/modric/kanye would fix us (obviously), 3 signings could really be all it takes. Just has to be the right players like what Van Dijk, Fabinho and Allison were for Liverpool. Likely not enough to win the title over Pep and Klopp, but make us truly competitive at the top level again and see where we go from there.
 

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They are stringing the fans along again, it's so obvious with this being said by Woodward/club.

"Returning to the roots of club's ethos of youth-led attacking football is the right way forward," he said.

"We won't be influenced by short-term distractions."

Saying they wont be influenced by short-distractions is basically their way of justifying net spends of under 100 million each season in the near future and if you look at most successful clubs they do tend to invest here and there in "short-term distractions", even bloody Ferguson did it, the ironic thing is probably our most successful signing post fergie on and off the field was.... Ibrahimovic

Also We were never all about the ethos of a bs "youth led attack" under fergie, we were signings the likes of Cole, Hughes, yorke, van nistelrooy, saha, Tevez, sheringham, van Persie and Rooney only really started to lead the line in attack in his mid-twenties.