When they opened it up to O50s we were a bit surprised so we booked in ASAP in case we moved to allowing only O60's like elsewhere. As then happened. I know the risk so I'm happy to take it no matter what. We need to get out of this shit show and vaccination is the way out.
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Reluctant authorities are the worst. You'll never reach everyone through any comms and infectiousness is just a fact (of increasing menace with each variant). But all that can be contained if the government is up to the task - that's just been so obvious from how things unfolded in Ontario, Quebec, and the Netherlands (places where I follow the news closely enough). Hope yours wise up, cause otherwise it'll be a rough couple of weeks or months...
That point about hospitalization is becoming really clear btw. We'll get there eventually! (Although I read that countries that get their supply largely through COVAX might not reach sufficient supply until 2023... And Pfizer's wish that people get a third shot (booster) in the fall won't help that supply issue.)
Reluctant authorities are bad, but reluctant authorities for the sole purpose of furthering the conservative culture war is where this really has come from. Conservatives, fulled by a conservative controlled media have essentially turned AUS COVID response into "Labor are the fear-mongering lockdown and control everyone party. Conservatives are the sensible, save the economy, test and trace, FREEDUMB party"
The continual framing of this as culture war that conservatives must win is at the root of our entire state/federal shambolic response.
The whole save the economy thing is a strange one. The people are the economy, protect them first and the economy will come out of things just fine.
Yeah, that's horrible. I said in the thread about the crazies in the US that the politicization of health and medicine is mindboggling madness to me, and I've been sad to find out in this thread that you're experiencing this in Australia as well. I mean, the push and pull between the pros and cons of a lockdown is seen everywhere of course - but this full-on politicization of the issue is something else.
77 cases today with about half not isolating. Now seems to be mainly spreading in big family and friend groups in SW Sydney. So numbers will go higher before they come down again.
A 90 year old unvaccinated woman died last night. The first covid related death in quite some time.
A 90 year old unvaccinated woman died last night. The first covid related death in quite some time.
Can't forget good old corruption as well.
CSL (who are under licence to produce AZ vaccine) has a LIberal MP as a shareholder, ex Liberal Staffers on their board and ex Liberal Treasuer Peter Costllo made sure our future fund is heavily invested into it
https://www.futurefund.gov.au/-/med...hash=AA01CDFBEAA52A0D939137EDC9FA55B1969BA317
Sydney are in the same position and made the same mistakes as Dan Andrews and Victoria made last year.
But Dan made the call to lockdown and was one of the longest and harshest in the world but it worked.
But Dan made the call to lockdown and was one of the longest and harshest in the world but it worked.
Gold-standard Gladys already confirming tomorrows numbers will be well over 100.
But hopefully mainly in know clusters or family groups.
I just moved my 2nd AZ shot up by 3 weeks. Would have gone today but first appointment was a week on Tuesday.
Libs corrupt? Say it ain't so.
I hope #scottyfrommarketing et al. get what they deserve at the next election.
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So 9 weeks in total? I'd be happy with that.
I'm not so sure about the new 6-week recommendation but it seems to be coming from the experts. I'll take it on board and see where we're at in a month.
Reassures me that it was the right idea to get AZ asap.
Definitely wiped me out between hours 12-36 though. Didn't feel bad just exhausted. Fine after 48.
Yes - about 9 weeks between. While it does seem that you get better protection with a longer gap between shots you still get a huge improvement after your second shot no matter what and now that I'm far more likely to get covid I think it is a good choice to go early. Especially as I think we are likely to get a Modetna booster next year that has been tweaked for the variants of concern.
Really? Gosh, that's a surprise, I had you down as a fan!
112 NSW cases yesterday. The vast majority of cases are family members in SW Sydney but still 34 or more weren't fully isolating.
https://www.theguardian.com/austral...08fa158fe20c43#block-60eb94268f08fa158fe20c43
https://www.theguardian.com/austral...08fa158fe20c43#block-60eb94268f08fa158fe20c43
@Wibble I see your mate Scotty is trending again. Sounds like you had difficulty getting more Pfizer and Kevin Rudd took it upon himself to call the head of Pfizer directly and bring forward the delivery of a load of doses.
SFM was asked why he hadn’t made that call himself and responded that he had. Pfizer then disputed that claim and said they hadn’t heard from him. Cue Twitter posting all the things that SFM had done in the last few months while he’s not been making that call.
SFM was asked why he hadn’t made that call himself and responded that he had. Pfizer then disputed that claim and said they hadn’t heard from him. Cue Twitter posting all the things that SFM had done in the last few months while he’s not been making that call.
I believe Pfizer didn't deny the call but just said he didn't have any role in contractual obligations. Which is true no matter what. It doesn't mean his call did or didn't speed up delivery as the contract remains unchanged. Rudd's letter to the PM.
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/20987041/sm_bourla.pdf
What #scottyfrommarkleting has mainly done is hide as he usually does when his incompetence is noticed or something needs doing. Bushfires burn most of a whole state? Go on holiday to Hawaii. Lockdowns at hope? go to the ub for a nice lunch mask free when in the UK. Quarantine and vaccine rollout fecked due to your inaction. Solution? Become virtually invisible.
I'd say that #scottyfrommarketing didn't call them and they are doing the half bullshit approach that they use all the time. What they are saying is the he has had lost of conversations with them.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07...-pfizer-vaccine-supply-senior-execs/100284902
Apparently we also pissed them off from day 1 with a "rude, dismissive and penny pinching" approach. Which sounds about right for this government. our PM once was asked if anything could have been done to prevent the death by suicide of someone held in immigration detention for overstaying their visa. His response was "Yes. They could have not overstayed their visa". Of course this involve a brown person and not a white au-pair on a tourist visa trying to work illegally but still being allowed in after the personal intervention of Peter Dutton allegedly after a request from a former police colleague.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09...peter-dutton-played-in-au-pair-visas/10282822
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Apparently we and possibly #scottyfrommarketing himself were only talking to Pfizer Australia and Rudd when to the global president of Pfizer.
Laura Tingle who authored the Rudd-Pfizer story said:
Former Liberal PM Malcom Turnbull just absolutely gave it to #scottyfrommarketing and that useless excuse for a health minister, Greg Hunt, on this evening's The Project. Brutal but hilarious.
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The trendline has 10,000 cases per day just as August hits.
I’d be surprised if it gets that bad, but western Sydney needs to lock down big time.
Gold Standard has fecked it. This lockdown came a week too late and now we’re paying the price.
Yeah this is probably the 'let it rip" scenario as trend lines are not predictive. However I've watched to ABC reports last night and this morning and whilst not 10,000 per day, it's looking like the potential for 1000 per day and a lockdown till Xmas is not outside the realm of possibility
Hopefully the cases will peak/flatten very soon. If the outbreak is restricted to NSW I wonder if most vaccine supply will be directed here? Obvioulsy a risk as outbreaks can occur elsewhere but it might help reduce the severity of the outbreak. Of course those useless cnuts don't have enough Pfizer.
And the AZ advice has changed yet again. While for a good reason it still looks chaotic to most. Anyone who qualifies, then over 50's, then over 60's and now over 40's plus anyone who wants to take the small risk after talking to their doctor.
Kevin Rudd calling for Greg Hunt to resign. Never going to happen as Liberal ministers don't resign easily especially not for such trivial matters as incompetence.
And Malcolm Turnbull carrying on his attack on his fellow Libs
And Malcolm Turnbull carrying on his attack on his fellow Libs
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Gold Standard tracking is only gold standard until it is overwhelmed, as it is now to some degree.
89 new cases in NSW today with 21 in the community at least partially. Better than expected/feared.
Sadly a second covid death for 2021.
Sadly a second covid death for 2021.
And on a lighter note not only if Kevin Rudd doing a better job of being PM than the actual PM but so are 5 other former PM's.
https://www.theshovel.com.au/2021/0...JFId3I3flgEXzlpguzBxoNKFgBkPmeZaqTbmdAqpOA9dI
https://www.theshovel.com.au/2021/0...JFId3I3flgEXzlpguzBxoNKFgBkPmeZaqTbmdAqpOA9dI
97 new cases mainly in SW Sydney, mainly family transmission but still some community transmission so I can see a more severe lockdown coming soon at least in some areas. Greater Sydney lockdown has been extended by anther 2 weeks anyway.
And Delta does seem to affect the young more often than Alpha. NSW currently has 71 Covid patients admitted to hospital and there are 20 people in ICU, four of whom are ventilated. Of the 21 people in ICU, one is in their 20s, two are in their 30s, two in their 40s, five in their 50s, five in the 60s, three in 70s and two in 80s.
And Delta does seem to affect the young more often than Alpha. NSW currently has 71 Covid patients admitted to hospital and there are 20 people in ICU, four of whom are ventilated. Of the 21 people in ICU, one is in their 20s, two are in their 30s, two in their 40s, five in their 50s, five in the 60s, three in 70s and two in 80s.
Josh Frydenberg is an actual traitor to the state of Victoria.
fecking slimeball twat
fecking slimeball twat
Quite a few in the Lib cabinet and beyond.
#scottyfrommarketing tries to throw ATAGI under the bus. This cockwomble won't take responsibility for anything.
https://www.theguardian.com/austral...ors-for-australias-slow-covid-vaccine-rollout
https://www.theguardian.com/austral...ors-for-australias-slow-covid-vaccine-rollout
Cases back in Melbourne due to the Removalists lying and not being able to wear a bloody mask and a person who is meant to be in isolation being selfish
Fingers crossed we can prevent an outbreak in Melbourne yet again.
NSW lockdown only applies if you aren't rich.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.sm...for-camp-in-regional-nsw-20210714-p589m5.html
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.sm...for-camp-in-regional-nsw-20210714-p589m5.html
Who is Craig Kelly? Apparently he wants the help of Uttar Pradesh chief minster Yogi Adityanath's help in fighting covid. Yogi is the man who tried to cover up the 1000s of dead bodies on the river ganges and still says there's no community transmission of covid taking place.
https://www.indiatoday.in/coronavir...yogi-adityanath-help-covid-1827785-2021-07-14
https://www.indiatoday.in/coronavir...yogi-adityanath-help-covid-1827785-2021-07-14
Craig Kelly is a fecking dumb arsehole politician that essentially got kicked out of the conservative Australian political party for vaccination misinformation and promoting Trump's hydroxychloroquine bullshit. Kelly is now an independent member of parliament and basically exists to try and gather USA Facebook followers with his conspiracy theories.
feck Craig Kelly.