Suarez bites | "sorry for falling into him and biting him and that"

[PedroMendez]

As I said, the poll came back 60-40, which isn't an overwhelming nationwide view. I doubt in England it is even an inverted 60-40. Exclude Liverpool, do you think no ban gets to even 10%?

That to me is a distinct cultural difference right there.

lets not get overboard now.
There is a cultural difference between Europe/England and south-america regarding certain actions (e.g. diving), still most people agree that biting should be punished. A TV-poll says nothing. Furthermore many Brazilians dont/didnt know his history of unsportsmanlike behavior. The (english) reactions would be completely different if he would have done it the first time. You can easily excuse one feck-up......doing the same shit three times is a complete different story.
At least the people I know, that know the context, all agree that he should be punished.

I understand that the Uruguayan FA denies everything, but you really dont have to do that. How many players in the history of the game were punished for unsporting behavior for at least 4 times (3x bite; 1x racial abuse)? Thats an exceptional record.

 

[Mr. MUJAC]

That's racist.

Good try!

 

[Moriarty]

Rooney was thin on top even then.

 

[::sonny::]

The reaction from Uruguay is astonishing. It's like a satellite Scouse country.

HahahhA

 

[ecantona7]

Will FIFA finish their investigation before the colombia match?

 

[Sad Chris]

Liverpool shouldn't have to suffer, Uruguay didn't suffer when he was issued a 10 man ban for Liverpool

Liverpool has formed this man to believe he can get away with anything. They've redrawn the line again and again. Liverpool could and would profit financially if he were to present himself in top form at the world-cup. He is first and foremost an employee of Liverpool and I'm sure if he was only to show his great football skills it would all be about what a great Liverpool player he is. But go ahead, opt-out on the negatives...it's probably just a cultural thing.

 

[SteveJ]

Regardless of what some Liverpool fans are saying about this, my broader point about being able to discuss and judge this with perspective still stands.

By constantly clouding the discourse with blinkered tribalism (from both sides) you are left with hysteria, exaggeration and anger.

Yes, exactly. However, the ultimate perspective is founded on the available evidence: what was seen, by millions, to occur...and this is why practically any kind of defence can be interpreted as 'please don't ban him'; small wonder if Suarez's critics react unreasonably in the face of, at worst, outright lies - we're being asked to deny or dismiss the reality of what was witnessed globally.

 

[RobinLFC]

Will FIFA finish their investigation before the colombia match?

I thought they had to make a statement at least before Saturday.

 

[The Purley King]

"South American countries ranked the lowest to this question, saying they wouldn't help police and would 100% back their own."
"It's not right or wrong….it's just different."

Its wrong

Interesting wiki page - thanks for that.

 

[Spielmacher]

I thought they had to make a statement at least before Saturday.

They don't have to do anything, it's their game and their rules.

 

[Thisistheone]

Either way I think Liverpool are losing out here. He either gets hammered by FIFA with a global ban or he only gets the international ban and moves to Barca.

 

[wwwwww]

And what's more, those defending Suarez are quick to blame the Italian, the England media, the FA, the FIFA, and all for what really happens. I would be very angry if I'm Italian, Suarez is the one who bite Chiellini, and the Italian were the one made to be "snitching and crying wolf". What a perspective that is.

[offtopicbuttrue]The root of racism[/offtopicbuttrue].

 

[scorgasm]

News expected in next few minutes.

 

[Summit]

I'm betting a 6 gam ban

 

[rimaldo]

if you're gonna have a cnut you have to put up with the periods.

 

[Cina sucks]

oooh Sky Sports are going to be there live. This is exciting.

Don't let us down FIFA!

 

[KiD MoYeS]

 

[Banana007]

oooh Sky Sports are going to be there live. This is exciting.

Don't let us down FIFA!

This is huge.

 

[Cina sucks]

Best GIF I've seen today. Love Twink Peaks!

 

[Rednotdead]

Either way I think Liverpool are losing out here. He either gets hammered by FIFA with a global ban or he only gets the international ban and moves to Barca.

Liverpool do, of course, have the right to sue him if they can show financial loss.

 

[Cina sucks]

Fecking hell, I know he's an awesome player but imagine having Suarez at your club? It would cause too much stress for me!

 

[Strats]

oooh Sky Sports are going to be there live. This is exciting.

Don't let us down FIFA!

They will let us down.

 

[Chesterlestreet]

Yes, exactly. However, the ultimate perspective is founded on the available evidence: what was seen, by millions, to occur...and this is why practically any kind of defence can be interpreted as 'please don't ban him'; small wonder if Suarez's critics react unreasonably in the face of, at worst, outright lies - we're being asked to deny or dismiss the reality of what was witnessed globally.

Yes, I agree. But the sheer denial - which looks baffling to most - of the very incident is limited to a very small number of people, namely those more or less directly affiliated with the national team. Or so it seems to me anyway.

In a broader context, however, I think the point would be that many seem both too outraged and too full of glee (let's admit it, many of us find it pretty delightful that this fecker has proven himself a cannibal yet again) to take any kind of attempt to put things into perspective as something other than excuses and/or a defence for Suarez. Which is wrong. Because the case does have interesting aspects beyond the pantomime villain (he has made himself into one - there's nobody else to blame - but a pantomime villain he has certainly become) that is Suarez.

What is a reasonable punishment in his case - and what precedent could it possibly set? And so forth. It's hard to debate these things if it becomes yet another case of "apologists" versus "lynch mob". I take it that's what PickleRed is on about.

 

[bonsaiboy]

Love Twink Peaks!

Freudian slip of the year?

 

[Cina sucks]

Freudian slip of the year?

Probably!

 

[Raulduke]

Liverpool do, of course, have the right to sue him if they can show financial loss.

Surely they would've put in pretty stringent disciplinary related clauses into his latest contract. If not they really are mugs.

 

[Shane88]

My guess is 4 games. Enough to rule him completely out of the World Cup should Uruguay progress to the final.

 

[Fiftyone]

9 games is the first "report" I've read about. Let's see what is it.

 

[Planky]

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[scorgasm]

Conference now. Confirms going to discuss Suarez.

 

[Wayne's World]

9 games is not enough for the cnut! joke decision again by FIFA

 

[Mali_Zeus]

A year ban and locking up in a cage for 6 months on vegetarian diet.

 

[senorgregster]

9 games is not enough for the cnut! joke decision again by FIFA

plus 4 months.
is that 9 internationals?

 

[Mali_Zeus]

9 games is not enough for the cnut! joke decision again by FIFA

There hasnt been a decision yet.

 

[PlayerOne]

Let off, as expected.

 

[scorgasm]

Confirmed from conference, Suarez is suspended 9 matches and banned 4 months from any football.

 

[Thisistheone]

Liverpool do, of course, have the right to sue him if they can show financial loss.

Imagine how messy that could get.

I'm hearing 9 games, unofficially

Edit and 4 months for Liverpool

 

[JP77]

9 matches, absolute disgrace.

 

[Raulduke]

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[Fiftyone]

9 matches and 4 months from any football related activity.

 

[Scrumpet]

I am placated.