Honestly don’t care. But you’ve just watched the most childish person on the show call a principled adult, ‘juvenile’ and you’re complaining about a lack of character development.
Man just check the fecking spoiler policy and stop arguing: https://www.redcafe.net/threads/spoiler-policy-updated-02-11-2021.350710/
Same, but not sure how much time I'll let pass after the finale before I rewatch. So many of the episodes are so dense and need some time inbetween to be like, wtf just happened!
This is irrelevant. It is classed as a spoiler and should not be talked about in here.
Mencken's betrayal absolutely makes sense.. on one hand, because it's a classic theme for would be puppet masters to lose control of their own creation and on the other hand Roman was the liaison and he just shit the bed massively at the funeral. We even have Ken telling us this directly.
Why would he turn on the Roy’s one day after the election debacle when there a long fight to face to be president? Why would he risk his base for…Mattsen?
4 days ago. Which is why I don't really like the format of this series. I mean, Logan's only been dead a week. Only over a week ago he was telling them they're not serious people at a karaoke bar. It's just so odd that so much happened in between his funeral. It's felt very forced and contrived. The show worked better when there were gaps between each episode's setting.
The timing just heightens tension & a creates a sense of good sense of bewilderment as we all can have empathy for the poor timing of it all. Doesn't detract at all imo.
Got to think there'll be a time jump at some point in the finale.
I was wondering if that was a possibility but I can't see Ken's pride accepting the family company being sold and him staying on as a figurehead.
Usually a few months in between episodes and then the episode itself would cover a day where there was some big event, right? I dunno, maybe I'm reading too much into it. This just feels a bit rushed to us.
Yep, I agree. We're so conditioned to see the kids as frauds that we might miss the fact that almost all the business geniuses in the show are portrayed as frauds. Just look at how Matsson talked to Menken at the party, it sounded just like listening to Kendall.
I don't think it's a strange concept that people are quite eager to forget who put them there, once they (think they) are in power. And Roman's breakdown was a plausible catalyst, too.
That’s my view of Kendall. Normal people don’t become billionaire CEOs. The audience are obviously aware of all his flaws and if anything they have used the four seasons to introduce us to other billionaire CEO or CEO candidates and exposed that they actually make Kendall look normal and somewhat competent.
Roman is the best character in the show, his grief feels real.
That was a great scene
"I wouldn't say no to a top bunk"That was a great scene
I also totally forget the bit in the burial chamber where they're debating whether they'd go in too and Connor says "i'll have to ask Willa, we were talking about cryogenics"
Yeah a fair number of great shows have failed to stick the landing. I actually hated how conclusive and neat the Breaking Bad finale was (thought Better Call Saul did a much better job.) I'm one of the few who loved the ambiguity and open-endedness of The Sopranos finale.
Interesting read, thanks. You could tell they just ran film and let him go on that breakdown scene. And yeah, as soon as Ewan got up and gave that speech, it was game over for Rome. He has well and truly fecked himself. He has no one. That breakdown (and the other shite he's done this season) has destroyed him.
Sounds like what someone would say just before they kill you.
Yeah, but from Mencken's perspective I don't see how he comes ahead in this. He has the CEO of Fox News in his pocket, willing to shill any kind of propaganda he desires and he trades it for some liberal centrist tech dudebro that doesn't like that type of politics and Shiv who he knows hates him. It seems to me this was sorely done to keep the plot going otherwise Mencken would just block the deal and Kendall can't assume sole leadership of the company.
It's not about Rome being a genius, it's the fact that Mencken's betrayal is stupid as feck.
I mean, it depends. In his first meeting with Logan he was quite clearly presented as the child Logan wished he had. He also kinda outmaneuvered Logan with the reverse-uno of GoJo buying Waystar instead of the other way around. But this season how capable he is remains entirely dependent on the episode. Remember when he was about to walk any minute and then in the next episode he desperately wants to buy not only Waystar, but ATN as well and he won't take no for an answer?
Team Hugo with the last minute swerve!
I think you missed the point of this. It's not an inconsistency, because he was never going to walk. It was a negotiating strategy to get it to happen as quickly as possible.
I don't think it was a negotiating strategy. He was dead serious about this and Logan knew. Then Logan dies and suddenly all is forgotten and he wants to buy ATN as well. You can't tell me this wasn't for plot purposes. I love the show, but come on - this season feels horribly rushed.
