kind of kidding, would be interesting as an idea(I personally don't see any problem with Messi in a counter attacking side) though.
I'm not sure Cruyff really, could do equally good with Zidane. Actually @Cal? , take Desailly and go:
Bunker with four of the deadliest upfront ready to charge.
Shmeichel
Lahm -- Rio -- Vidic -- Maldini
Makalele -- Desailly
Zidane
Messi --------------- Ronaldo
Pele
Hmmmm, I thought VivaJanuzaj had made an interesting suggestion there, and Desailly could have also slotted in for Vidic in defence.I've decided on Roberto Carlos, the result of a dice roll...
Catch yourself on you moron
Giving people advice on how to be nice. Jesus Christ.
Radio said:
I'm considering trying something other than tiki-taka, maybe:
If you are abandoning tiki-taka Viva's suggestion was your best route really. Xavi outside tiki-taka is just a very good midfielder, but not really worthy of an all-time final. And if you were going to play both Alves and Carlos you sure as feck want more protection for that backline in the form of a sweeper or double pivot.
Yeah, very difficult to include both unless you play them as wingbacks. Even during Barca's peak, Abidal gave that backline a lot of balance playing a very conservative fullback and Maldini was the obvious and absolutely perfect player for that role. Even more difficult to include both in a 'normal' 433ish formation.
With Schweinstieger and Alves? Nice idea.
Baresi? He featured in draft far too often
I thought long and hard about Baresi, just that Baresi - Rio just doesn't seem right to me, if I go with Baresi - Maldini and play Lahm at LB, it brings back the comments about how he hasn't played there for years, etc...
Yeah. Instead of worrying about protecting a weak backline, just turn it into a fecking awesome backline that gives Alves all the freedom he needs without making Schweinsteiger a weak link in DM. So easy.
Not going to drop Ronaldo!!good old christmas tree
Paul Janes?
Santamaria?
I've no idea at all what you're doing in this reinforcement round, so you definitely count as weird. You weren't stalling though, fair enough
Truth isEh?
Why? It's not like Ferdinand is a libero-type of centerback who'd constantly charge forward or anything like that. And Baresi is the ultimate centerback, you can partner him with anyone in my opinion and it won't cause any problems at all. He's not like Beckenbauer or Scirea who probably need a covering centerback next to them. Also, if you keep the Barca set-up going, you don't need conventional centerbacks anyway.
Interesting, I've spoken to a few people about this and most seem to be of the opinion that it'd be better to play a hardman type next to Baresi than a ball-player like Rio. Anyway, I think Maldini-Rio is as good a CB pairing as any...
i had the same "problem" with Baresi, as he was pretty much the most complete centerback in history i wasnt sure which type of the defender to pick for his partner....
I wouldn't call Rio a ballplaying defender. And Baresi easily offers everything that Vidic does anyway, just a lot more. He's the definition of a complete centerback.
Well, you can pick anyone you like
. Most of the modern centerbacks are relatively complete anyway. Maldini, Nesta, Rio, Thuram. You can partner them easily with each other or with someone like Baresi, especially if you play pro-active tactics and a high defensive line.Costacurta would be the obvious answer, Maldini would certainly work.
Hmm... now I'm regretting my choice... Baresi was one of my options.
Well you still have Pele, Messi and Ronaldo in attack
.pretty much but i would still want "ball winner" partnering Nesta/Rio and "reader of the game" with Thuram for example even though they are pretty complete as you said. With Maldini im not sure, he would probably go in same category(ultimate defender) as Baresi but i like him more in fullback position....Well, you can pick anyone you like
Swap Pelé for Cristiano and he may consider it.good old christmas tree
Same here, another reason why I don't like the Carlos pick. But I stop now, Cal obviously has an excellent team and a fantastic back line now. He just needs to get his tactics right and the final should be exciting.
Neither would I. His ball playing abilities are usually over-hyped on here due to the fact that he was better on the ball than a) your typical English CB and b) Vidic.
He had a good touch and he could turn/dribble his way out of trouble well, but he was never a particularly expansive passer imo.
I think you may be mistaking hardman for aerially awesome stopper. Against van Basten and Gullit/Eusebio I would be worried about Rio-Baresi, indeed.
I think that tag often includes a few too many limitations. Rio was a complete and intelligent defender in my book, he could play a decent pass without being really creative, he had pace, great positioning. He didn't use a physical approach but was in no way weak in that regard if necessary. I don't think his passing stood out, he's just really complete and could partner almost any type of defender without it causing problems. I wouldn't call Nesta or Maldini ball-playing centerbacks either, even though they clearly could pass the ball out of defense.
That's what I was thinking, Maldini-Rio just seemed to look more a "pairing" than Baresi-Rio. Anyway, have to decide if I stick to tiki-taka or bring Zidane in and expect him to score 2 headers from corners.
Kinda depends on your own approach to the game. If you sit deep and want to soak a pressure, I'd get that point, even though I wouldn't see it as a huge issue. In a Barca-esque set-up? They'd be awesome, even against van Basten and Gullit/Eusebio.
Sure, they are far less exposed in that setup and he isn't facing wingers (although both Cabrini and Amoros could put in a cross, Maldini would prevent the former but Cabrini would get some in there).
Maldini as CB is faster than Baresi, that seems to be what a lot of people were going on about with Vidic against L Ronaldo in the last match.
