The best Attack/Midfield/Defense Ever

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    Skills Snitch

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    Yes I know the attack depends heavily on the midfield same for the defence.

    Ultimately you need a midfield that compliments your attack and midfield, but let's look at them as individual units.

    I was just thinking do Barcelona have a legitimate claim for the best Attack and midfield ever?

    Midfield - 2011
    Iniesta--Busquets---Xavi

    Attack 2015
    Neymar---Suarez---Messi

    I'm purely basing it on when they played together. For example this isn't me importing prime Messi 2012 in that attack, but the 2015 Messi, 2015 Suarez and 2015 Neymar as of when they played together. Not only were they great individual players but they fit together so well.

    Defense includes keeper by the way.
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    Cal? CR7 fan

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    Defense - Milan 1990
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    I think the defense one would be pretty universal.

    Edit: maybe not. How about West Germany 1974?
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    Enigma_87 You know who

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    Atack - Brazil 1970

    Pele, Tostao, Jairzinho, Rivelino.

    Defence - West Germany 1974

    Vogts - Beckenbauer - Schwarzenbeck - Breitner.

    Midfield - the Barca one at their peak, or Carre magique
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    Bubz27 No I won’t change your tag line

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    I think they'd have a claim, as they had everything.
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    charlenefan Far less insightful than the other Charley

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    Best PL midfield ever yes but I think the Barca trio betters it
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    Does Nicky Butt really make into the greatest midfield of all time?
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    Cal? CR7 fan

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    You were saying? ;)
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    Zlatattack Full Member

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    He's got the medals to prove it.
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    Sorry, not even close.
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    Adam_S New Member

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    I dunno.I reckon Roy Keane might have had something to say about that tiki taka crap.
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    Attack: I think Ronaldo, Benzema, Bale have as much claim as Neymar, Suarez, Messi. Both these sets of players have consistently been the very best.

    Midfield: Has to go to Iniesta, Busquets, Xavi, they were superb. There have been a lot of good midfields, but these guys teamed up with Messi they were unstoppable. They're the sole reason Manchester United lost 2 champions league finals. If it were not for them our Tevez/Ronaldo/Rooney front 3 would have had a much longer chapter in our history.

    Defence: Has to be the Milan defence of the early 90's surely?
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    Cal? CR7 fan

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    Ovebro and Wolfgang Stark says hi. ;)
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    Are they referees?
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    Suggestion for midfield: Brazi 1982, Toninho Cerezo, Falcao, Socrates, Zico.
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    Cal? CR7 fan

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    Yes, the scandal of Stamford Bridge and Bernabeu
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    Attack: Brazil 1970
    Midfield: Brazil 1982
    Defense: Milan 1988-1994
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    Moby Dick who hates the homeless

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    Aye that's better than the Barca trio for me. The latter is incredible but far too one dimensional and that is coming from someone who worships Xavi.
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    Tbf it better be more dimensional if it's going to have 5 players in it.
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    Toninho Cerezo aren't two different players :lol:
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    2cents Full Member Scout

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    Front three, Brazil 02? Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho.
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    Oops :lol:
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    Good shout
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    Pass and Move Full Member

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    No chance. They wouldn't get a kick of the ball against that Barca midfield. Having said that, you can't really say that the Barca midfield was only Xavi, Busquets and Iniesta as Messi and Pedro were integral to the midfield dominance too.
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    Moby Dick who hates the homeless

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    The late 1950s Brazil attack had Pele and Garrincha in the same team which is practically cheating.

    The Madrid attack at the same time fielded Di Stefano, Puskas and Gento.

    Those would be high in my rankings and deffo above the Barca 15 trio.
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    James Peril New Member

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    Yeah right, a midfield playing 50 years ago against amateurs certainly beats everything that has happened later with peak physique, tactics, stamina, technique and so forth.
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    James Peril New Member

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    You watched a lot of those games I guess? Perfect HD-copies viewed back to back to form your own opinion? Hipster...
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    Ish Lights on for Luke

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    Great shout. Loved that trio.
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    How old are you?
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    No they haven’t. MSN a cut above the BBC for sure.
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    Keane was a force of nature around then and overcame that Juve midfield of Deschamps Davids and Zidane all in their prime. Wouldnt count him out yet unless we are playing under La Liga refs .
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    Maurice Setters Training New Member

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    A young, not yet fat, Ronaldo with Figo at Barcelona in 96/97. I seem to remember that Robson often played Figo as a support striker/trequartista that season.
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    Which is so different from watching a match on TV oh man
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    The FW lines or in general formations/systems of decades ago were totally different from what we see today (for one they were more forward-heavy), but RM's 1950s/60s forward line including Di Stéfano, Puskás and Gento is definitely among the best if not the best in history.

    Highlight: 1960 EC final, which is regarded as one of the matches in the history of the game, Di Stéfano scored 3 and Puskás scored 4, final result 7-3.
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    Enigma_87 You know who

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    That's a very beat up argument and ignorant way of looking it IMO. Some field and track records aren't beaten since 20 years despite nutrition, stamina, physique and so forth.

    In terms of tactics naturally the game moved on, but in terms of individual players I'm not sure you can stack the current crop of players in the same way as past greats.

    Very good shout that. From memory they scored in all but 1 game that season (and over 100 goals). Lucho was also key for their attack that season.
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    Pass and Move Full Member

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    What's that got to do with the discussion?
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    Most of them eastern European no? :wenger:
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    Enigma_87 You know who

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    Makes it even more special considering that they are usually catching up in the enhancing drugs department technology. :D
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    Everything.