Ngannou
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Till is out the Vettori fight, broken collarbone....painful
Nate Diaz v Eyepoke Edwards to serve as a 5 round co main event on the Oliviera v Chandler card.
I've taken some beatings from him over the years..
Delighted he's got the call.
Struve!! Is that you?!
Absolutely not! Not a fan of Struve in the slightest!
Bones wants more than $10m base pay to fight Ngannou.
McGregor got around $3m base pay for Khabib fight.
Bones is pricing himself out.
McGregor got around $3m base pay for Khabib fight.
Bones is pricing himself out.
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Fury et al have no chance in UFC. Out of all of them Whyte would make the crossover easiest. The reason it is easy for Ngannou is his sheer power and strength. Only AJ and Whyte have a chance.
Boxers don't have a chance in the UFC. Just look at what Artem did to Paulie Malignaggi, which was bare knuckle and not even full MMA.
Well that's a bad comparison considering Artem is the GOAT of MMA
Perhaps too much of blanket statement. Whyte would have a chance at HW in UFC, he has a kickboxing background, he's tough as hell and strong enough that he could work on takedown defence and fair quite well. Some others like Fury have no chance, the things that make them so good in boxing would be the things that make them so bad in UFC.
But UFC power and boxing power is different. Fury would be snapping necks if he were allowed to tee off against fighters who didnt know how to defend from shots.
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I don't know much about Whyte's MMA background, but in general, a good striker with a very strong ground game shouldn't have any difficulty taking care of a boxer, since the boxing bit only works when you are standing up with no threat of being taken down (never mind what happens when you're actually taken down).
It's very different which is why Fury wouldn't stand a chance. Not sure why you think UFC fighters can't defend from shots, unless I've misunderstood you.
One of the reasons boxers struggle in UFC is because they can't plant their feet when landing. The front leg is there to get chopped or a wrestler will shoot for a takedown. Having to think about those things makes it horrible for boxers entering the sport.
Whyte is the one exception, he has experience and his best attributes would help him in the UFC.
Whyte is the one boxer at heavyweight with experience with kicks too. He understands watching shots coming from all angles and levels. I also think he's set in a way that he could learn to defend takedowns well. There will obviously be stylistic match ups that make it horrible for a boxer. A boxer Vs grappler in UFC is almost a gimme for the grappler.
Luckily he had it stitched back on
We have seen how Francis just windmills people with his chin in the air. The opponents arent fainting back, parrying with the gloves or moving with the shots. they get flatlined. Francis is just walking forward and swinging, what MMA striking technique is he showing?
A smaller boxer wouldnt be able to adapt but mixed becomes less mixed at heavyweight. Fury is also half a foot taller than Francis so he could swarm the opposition at even a scarier rate. Who can take the giant Fury down if they cant get near the smaller Francis?
Good job. Still a horrific injury though.
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And there we have a trilogy.
I just don't have any interest in this for some reason. First time that's happened for a McGregor fight...
Maybe you know the outcome? I think Dustin will finish him again. Maybe not as quick but he’ll do it.
Maybe because it might not be competitive if Conor don't take it seriously?
Dustin is training every day with top dogs, while Conor is living in a yacht in Abu Dhabi.
Randomly watched Poirier doing an episode of Hot Ones. He’s such a likeable bloke. He said McGregor has the heaviest hands he’s ever experienced. Quite a compliment.
I don't mean to be rude but that is a very simplistic view of the sport and takedowns too.
You really think a champion like Stipe just loses to a guy that is coming in swinging or windmilling?
You don't tend to parry or block in MMA because they are wearing tiny gloves. Especially at that weight.
You also don't get away with feinting like you do in boxing when you've also got kicks to your shins and your chin coming at you and the risk of TD.
Anyone in UFC at HW would take Fury down comfortably.
Have you done much fighting?
Pretty sure he’s the most likeable guy in whole of MMA.
That spots reserved for Wonderboy.
This is simply not true. Yes, maybe against those bum HWs with zero cardio and only a stand up game, sure, Fury may have a chance. But with any HW worth his salt will beat him easily. Miocic, Ngannou, Overeem, Blaydes etc. It would be an easy pay day.
He's definitely up there alongside Max Holloway, Wonderboy and Bobby Knuckles.
I think we can safely answer that one.
To be fair, there are a bunch of likeable MMA fighters like: Ngannou, Miocic, Korean Zombie, Legendary Polish Power and Robbie Lawler.
But Francis himself is beating up stars with high milage. The heaveyweights are all the same at the minute. Thats why Jones is moving up.
How do they even get in close to Fury because they cant get close to Francis without being shit scared of a slap and Fury is a lot bigger, rangier and deadlier with his hands.
Id believe Fury didnt have a chance if Negannu literally didnt win 5 fights in a row in under 2 minutes total with nothing but poor boxing technique. Jesus Fury would be 2 weight classes bigger than the Stipe who walked in the octogan last weekend.
We have seen Fury just come forward with scary pressure and physically dominate Wilder like a child. All he would do is rush fighters and what could they do?
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