If you like grappling he is the best to watch, his technique is near perfection.
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Well done to Khabib for the fight, but he should have left it at that, he destroyed McGregor, but now the fight won’t be remembered for his win but for the afters. The fella in red hopping into the ring is a cowardly scumbag.
That's a false narrative really. Woodley couldn't take Till down in several attempts, Till's defence was too good and he's one of the rare welterweights who could match Woodley's strength.
Woodley knocked him down with a punch, otherwise he wasn't getting that fight to the ground.
I don’t care how many times it has burnt me before, I still need to see Khabib vs Ferguson.
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I really hope Khabib don't get striped of his belt, and hopefully he just gets to pay a fine with no suspension.
Khabib vs Tony needs to happen next.
This fight ended how it was build up. At this point of time there is no value in pointing fingers. As of now Khabib hasnt been payed. The most likely scenario is that Khabib will be fined. The members who attacked Conor could potentially be cut.
There least likely option is a long suspension simply because that would expose the double standard. Conor's list of hittting a referee and the infamous bus incident werent fined either or met with a long suspension.
There least likely option is a long suspension simply because that would expose the double standard. Conor's list of hittting a referee and the infamous bus incident werent fined either or met with a long suspension.
I really like watching Ferguson, think his style is so entertaining and unique. I can't help thinking it would end up going the same way though, as in he'd get dragged to the ground and battered
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I really hope Khabib don't get striped of his belt, and hopefully he just gets to pay a fine with no suspension.
Khabib vs Tony needs to happen next.
Would be a completely different fight as Tony is a complete fighter in the Jon Jones vein. Ferguson is far better on the ground than Conor and would be able to wiggle free and do a bit of elbow work from his own back.
Let's call a spade a spade. Who gives a shit about Paul Daley? It's all about the money.
Remember Kahbib walks around at about 200lbs and is supposedly the best wrestler at AKA. A gym that has DC in it. He also apparently man handles some of the best college wrestlers in America.
Both are 5ft 10 and here is a vid if you skip to 5mins 40 with the two of them together. Bare in mind this is when Kahbib pulled out for almost dying trying to get to 155 and GSP not needing to really diet or cut to be at 170. There isn’t that much size between them but yeah GSP is the better all rounder and as far as elite hug rests go this is one i’d be intrigued to see.
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I seriously doubt Khabib walks around at 200. 180 maybeRemember Kahbib walks around at about 200lbs and is supposedly the best wrestler at AKA. A gym that has DC in it. He also apparently man handles some of the best college wrestlers in America.
Both are 5ft 10 and here is a vid if you skip to 5mins 40 with the two of them together. Bare in mind this is when Kahbib pulled out for almost dying trying to get to 155 and GSP not needing to really diet or cut to be at 170. There isn’t that much size between them but yeah GSP is the better all rounder and as far as elite hug rests go this is one i’d be intrigued to see.
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Different situations with different parties involved I think?
By which I mean in McGregor's case it was the UFC who could have suspended him whereas in Khabib's case it's the Nevada state commission isn't it? And while they are invested in the situation in so far as suspending him might cost them money, they aren't quite as invested as the UFC are in McGregor and unlikely to show the same leniency as a result. There's no reason that a different standard wouldn't apply, especially as the sport is often inherently unfair in that way. Plus the reality is that Khabib's actions prompted a danger to those in attendance in a way that McGregor's didn't. I would suspect that the commission will take an ill view of that.
I would expect some sort of suspension anyway but it wouldn't surprise me if it was a relatively long one.
It’s always been mentioned how much he cuts and that he is around 200 when not in fight camp, it’s why he has always struggled with cuts and a supposed lack of proffesionalism eating cakes and stuff whilst in camp.
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I really hope Khabib don't get striped of his belt, and hopefully he just gets to pay a fine with no suspension.
Khabib vs Tony needs to happen next.
That’s far too much as he would need to lose about a quarter of his body weight to make 155. A 5’10 guy who walks around at 200 looks far bigger that Khabib does when he’s not fighting.
Yeah pretty much. A great wrestler usually beats a great boxer.
Everyone I've heard talk about it says 200.
He also came into this fight camp at 176 I believe, which was noteworthy as how exceptionally low it was for him-an indication of his intensity for this fight. That wouldn't make sense if he was walking around at 180.
If he's walking around at 180 his struggles to reach 155 wouldn't make sense
I don't know how credible the sources are but he indeed apparently is closer to 200 than 180.
FFSYeah pretty much. A great wrestler usually beats a great boxer.
I'd tap instantly, but I'm not a professional fighter.
A neck crank is a pain submission. It hurts. It doesn't strangle you. It doesn't tear or dislocate anything. Tapping to a neck crank, is like tapping to a can opener. It shows that you're either a complete novice, a quitter, or completely overmatched by someone who outweighs you by 60-100 pounds.
When is the last time someone legitimately tapped to a neck crank in a high level fight? Did Story tap to Maia when his nose exploded? I don't remember, but his nose did get crushed. Nothing bad was happening to Conor but some significant discomfort.
He walks at around 185-190 or something like that. Woodley walks at around 200 and he's visibly bigger, Bisping around 205.
After Khabib beats Ferguson, I hope he has a superfight with Woodley, I just don't see any lightweights beating him but Woodley at 170 is a whole different level.
What Khabib did, makes him even more legendary.
Agreed. Khabib looks significantly smaller than GSP when he fought Bisping.
I don't think it does. I understand why he did it though.
Khabibs hand speed took me, and conor, by surprise. He threw a few right handers that were absolute lasers, faster than anything Conor threw all night. I wonder where that came from, if he's always had it, or if he was just so amped up for the fight he found an extra gear.
Hence why people always gave him stick, it would also explain why he can supposedly hang/best guys like DC, Cain and Luke Rockhold in sparring. There are actually videos of him wrestling DC out of camp and he really looks quite big and puffy. Kahbib is bigger than a lot of people think.
Hell of a movie thoughFFS
He has shown it in his last fights, he is a solid striker and has some weight behind them.
I roll with a mate occasionally who teaches, competes, is a black belt and when he puts a squeeze on you it feels like my jaw is away to shatter and that my eyes will shoot out of my head. He somehow also manages to get me to tap to chokes that I don’t even really think are around my neck properly. Some people just have that Anaconda like squeeze and it’s horrible.
Standard silly hardmen acting like they wouldn’t be crying for their mammy.
i love the idea that, as hard as Khabib is, he’s got a bit of a weakness for cakes
Makes me feel a lot better about myself
Actually think it takes away from his status. Everyone is talking about the brawl rather than him murdering McGregor in yet another undefeated fight. The latter should be a much bigger deal.
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Nah it makes him a dick
Exactly. Conor knows feck all about politics or anything like that. He was simply selling the fight, doing his job in effect. If the UFC were unhappy with him saying shit like that they would have stopped him years ago. If it wasn't for Conor promoting (even if he did a lot less than usual) then the UFC wouldn't make the numbers. Khabib wouldn't have made the 2 million that is being reported. Don't get me wrong Conor is a complete gimp, but Khabib needs to cop on and realise what it is
It really doesn't.
Nope. The overreaction to what he did is hilarious. He is still undefeated and destroyed McGregor.
I believe the rumors were, he used to balloon up to 190-200.
He has since cleaned up his nutrition, and he now gets up to over 180. When he was going ham on tiramisu between fights, he was getting way to heavy to effectively cut his weight.
It's not. He put the crowd at risk. That's unacceptable imo.