When a muppet puts Lukaku up front as our only "target" man week in week out, regardless of the glaring misses he consistently makes and we use our plan b ( fellaini ) from the start.
The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked
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So he is no longer capable of turning it around after one game. Some said we should give him more time even after the Derby game. Wait until we win convincingly against Valencia and they will be out in full force.
He wants to leave, but he won't quit! That's my opinion, but it's likely.
Big money payout if he's sacked, quitting is not an option for Mo.
Right now he's stealing a living.
Big money payout if he's sacked, quitting is not an option for Mo.
Right now he's stealing a living.
Mourinho is awful. Over the course of the time he's been at the helm I believe he hasn't closed the gap in any material way. He's had the time and budget to have made more progress. Despite the league finishes and the trophies I see a team divided and held back by tactics. His chat about Jones and Bailly being next up on penalties was awful. Does nothing to build confidence. His chat about the centre backs and lack of signing has killed the confidence of the players he bought. What's the chat on Sanchez and Martial all about.
One thing I will differ on with most is Pogba. The guy is a top player. Is it no wonder he's underperforming with Mourinho? The majority of them are. Hazard had enough of him. The creative players at Real Madrid hated working under him. Pogba is being used as a scape goat here. Under a more supportive manager he would do much better as would the squad.
For me it’s bigger than the games. He has obviously lost the dressing room also. He is a lame duck.
The third manager after Sir Alex that will get sacked. Maybe our problems are deeper than the manager? We will continue with this shambles for as long as Ed Woodward and the rest of his kind make footballing decisions. We are in a dire need of a technical director or a sporting director.
Quite a bizarre situation we're in at the moment. The vast majority of fans want Mou out, Ed is probably sick of his moaning and wants him out; and judging by the 'sabotage job' he performed yesterday it appears Mourinho even wants out- yet for various reasons I can't see him getting sacked until the top four is impossible- what a crap season we're in for chaps!
That we're even discussing the subject. I wanted him gone last season after his post match press conference when we lost to Seville. Said it then: a manager of our club cannot sit there and remind us all of the victories which he'd inflicted on us when managing other clubs, with the only purpose to boost his ego. Disrespectable and diabolical! That was enough to show him the door then!
Just woke up hoping for headlines that he's gone....
Agree...going to be a painful, slow death.
Those times was over when Fergie left mate. Don’t cling to something that isn’t there anymore. All the clubs use this formula now a days. We just need a less egoistic manager who likes to play attacking football as Pogba said. And I think he speaks for the whole team in that matter.
What is happening now is not because Jose was denied signings by the board. He's been backed quite heavily over the first 2 seasons and has managed to fall out with most of his signings.
He has fallen out with many players and is turning many against him. It looks like he wants to be sacked.
How do you think Bailly will feel when he plays McTominay ahead of him? How do you think Lindelof will feel being subbed and leaving McTominay on as a CB. No wonder the players look shot of any confidence!
He subbed Pogba and Martial when we were having our best spell in the game and really pressing West Ham.
Jose is toxic and will sacrifice anyone in order to make a point or make himself look better.
The line-up yesterday was just bizarre, especially against a team that has had such a poor start to the league.
We made West Ham look like Barcelona at times.
I think it's clear that most players are not on his side, if they were we'd at least look competitive out there. It's time to cut our losses and get rid of Jose. I can't believe the club gave him a 5 year extension last year.
Don't they know his past history....he made a few comments about PSG, flirted with them and the club offered him 5 extra years as they were afraid he'd leave!
that decision is right up there with Rooney's big extension from Moyes when it was clear he was over the hill.
The club is a shambles right now...it's painful to see how far we've fallen in just 6 seasons.
Hasnt he done the same thing this season as well?
A very good read from ESPN on Mourinho and Man Utd.
feck off with that shit, one manager won the league with those players at a canter. Stop making excuses for piss poor management. He's lost the dressing room and I guarantee you Rio Ferdinand wouldnt have opened his mouth last night saying as much if he didnt know that. Or do you think Young and Carrick have just stopped talking to the ex united players. That was as targeted last night as any bullshit Jose has tried to pull.
I have been doing this for last 4 weeks. But he is still here. We will sink lower and lower before they eventually sack him, which is what he wants. What's gone wrong with the board in this club.
Remember how hazard played in the last mourinho season and then look how he’s playing now.
Managers matter. Ours is done.
Managers matter. Ours is done.
Not everyday you get to call something coming from "ESPN", a good read, but this time it's truly the case.
Exactly why people wanting to bin off Pogba are mad.
I’m now just living in the hope that the money the club refused to give Jose for a CB was earmarked for his pay off.
Our profit before tax for 17/18 (announced last week) was £26m, sacking Mourinho would probably wipe a similar amount off next year's figure. I can't see Ed pulling the trigger with this in mind.
Agree 100%. Pogba will flourish under a decent boss.
I’ve kind of felt sorry for Jose in a way that the players are bottlejobs and not performing for him but he’s completely lost the dressing room.we need a fresh start the club is poisoned all the way through taking Jose out seems the only way forward . I dread to think what pep would do with our front 3.
I think the supporters have spoken. They want to watch attacking football. The ones who are getting away with it, are the players. The supporters should really hammer the players or those who have let the club, the supporters and those players down who have played with the right spirit. I think we need a change. A lot of managers would struggle with the board allow good players to go else where.Something has to change and Zidane would be an interesting option.
This.
I honestly believe that United won have won the league in 2014 had Mourinho been appointed instead of Moyes straight after Fergie
This is an accumulation of terrible signings over 5 years, and Mourinho is responsible for his share (Pogba for 90m was a terrible waste of money).
United are even more unattractive now to top players who look to Chelsea, Liverpool or City in England first.
This is an accumulation of terrible signings over 5 years, and Mourinho is responsible for his share (Pogba for 90m was a terrible waste of money).
United are even more unattractive now to top players who look to Chelsea, Liverpool or City in England first.
Great players are great players regardless of who the manager is.
Pogba isn't one of them.
I'm exhausted of this shit. i think i've reached a breaking point
Yes2015
Jose: 'I left out Hazard because we are conceding lots of goals. Willian and Pedro did amazing defensive work.'
Jose had my full support after the Spurs game, I thought right he's seen the light now. But no.
feck him. He should have been fired last night. Hopefully it will happen today.
There is excuse or logic for the team selection and line up against WHU. How the flying feck is McTomminay starting? No half decent manager in the world would have made that decision. He's lost the dressing room, doesn't have the support of the board either. Who cares if he will get £12m for getting fired, its peanuts to do us.
We shouldn't have to wait until Christmas, or mathematical outcomes before moving, it ain't countdown.
Ed needs to understand that all the mega deals on the commercial side are only possible as we are still seen around the world as a big, title and trophy challenging team. When they realise we're not, his deals go too.
Fire Jose today, one of the Assistants can look after it for a couple of weeks before we get Zidane sorted.
feck him. He should have been fired last night. Hopefully it will happen today.
There is excuse or logic for the team selection and line up against WHU. How the flying feck is McTomminay starting? No half decent manager in the world would have made that decision. He's lost the dressing room, doesn't have the support of the board either. Who cares if he will get £12m for getting fired, its peanuts to do us.
We shouldn't have to wait until Christmas, or mathematical outcomes before moving, it ain't countdown.
Ed needs to understand that all the mega deals on the commercial side are only possible as we are still seen around the world as a big, title and trophy challenging team. When they realise we're not, his deals go too.
Fire Jose today, one of the Assistants can look after it for a couple of weeks before we get Zidane sorted.
His performances in the World Cup indicated otherwise.
Mourinho was once a great manager. I think he's out of ideas - bad workmen blame their tools, and it's this stabbing in the back I dislike about him most. I think he's a conspiracy theorist.
Get this Mourinho, you're at United, and everyone else does hate you, and other teams save their best performances for you. No conspiracy, just reality!
When you're looking at that, you also need to ask the question: Obviously Woodward is in charge of the day-to-day operations. But can he, alone, make a decision like sacking the managers? Would he need the approval of the owners? the board?
It has big ramifications, beyond football.
Jose is a poor coach. Remember he said after Leicester 'call me head coach and not manager'. That's the direction football is heading in and he's totally given up on developing or improving the players he's got just because we didn't sign a CB. When he is forced to work with and improve the players he's got he can't do it. He is the definition of cheque book manager. Look at Sarri's impact already at Chelsea. He doesn't believe in the transfer market that much instead works to improve the team he has. Same squad as last season with the addition of two midfielders and new keeper to replace the one that left. Already a dramatic change in the football. Only two outfield players. Look how many players we've bought and none of them are performing.
Exactly I agree with you and @Judas no attacking player would thrive in this current setup. Tactics is the number 1 problem.
Oh how things can turn. I'm never one to gloat but people that were so blindly following Mourinho and were actively downplaying everything he's done wrong here, are the same ones calling for people to be graceful.
I can even remember some posts going along the lines of "I wish we would give Mou a lifetime contract just so I can watch all anti-Mourinho posters spontaneously combust in a fit of rage".
I can even remember some posts going along the lines of "I wish we would give Mou a lifetime contract just so I can watch all anti-Mourinho posters spontaneously combust in a fit of rage".
Ok then. How do we as the supporters of our club let 'our club' know that we want change and we want it now?
Does the club consult a section of the fans? A fan board or something?
We need to make our club understand that we as the fans demand a change.
How do we do this?
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Does the club consult a section of the fans? A fan board or something?
We need to make our club understand that we as the fans demand a change.
How do we do this?
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No decent rumours in the press. Depressing. 
At the very least we shouldn't bin off a talent like that without trying different ways to see if we can make it work with him. Pogba's problem is with the manager, the manager is currently failing dramatically and picking fights all around. Binning Pogba together with the manager is cutting off the nose to spite the face imo.
Probably not, and the higher up the decision goes the less it will be based on the actual football and more on the cost.
Why are you surprised, back in early 2010's he said "finishing 2nd is just being a best loser", this season he said "last season's 2nd is amongst my greatest achievements in my career" in another self-preservation stunt trying to portrait his squad as not being good enough.
Missing out on CL football will cost you in the region of £80-100m...
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