The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked
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Six years after SAF stepped down, we are still playing midfielders as defenders; wingers as full backs, strikers as wingers etc. Whatever happened using specialists and playing players in the correct positions. Mourinho is now a walking contradiction. Sack him.
Not really agreeing with you, but in principle only.
There seems to be no concept of gross misconduct in football. I would have thought that, by now, in a normal job, he would have received enough verbal and written warnings to actually be able to sack him.
What do you reckon his chances would be at an Employment Tribunal @golden_blunder ? Assuming he had a normal job and not a football job.
Well the markets are open... :*(
Guy who’s currently servicing my AC is telling me about how Mourinho is running the team into the ground. Can’t even get things done around the house without being reminded of what a mess we’re in 
What difference does that make?
Good (depressing but accurate) reads both, TY
I just got the cannae tek the strain captain message and thought he must be gone, but seems not. 
But we hired him knowing this is what he was like (just ask Bobby) so isn't the misconduct on us!
Mourinho's stock price is falling.
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Next weekend will be unbearable when we beat Cardiff and have to see posts for a week about how he can turn it around or how we are better without Pogba etc etc.
I am just so done with Jose. Hatred has reached levels I didn't know existed.
I am just so done with Jose. Hatred has reached levels I didn't know existed.
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Pep, Guardiola, Poch and even Warnock have improved their respective teams.
Mourinho knows if he can't get the funds to buy 5/6 players then is he is effectively useless, a manager of his ilk likes to buy the big players and if woody can't support in him in that then we should just let him go.
Mourinho knows if he can't get the funds to buy 5/6 players then is he is effectively useless, a manager of his ilk likes to buy the big players and if woody can't support in him in that then we should just let him go.
Doing the maths, we can expect to be mathematically ruled out of top 4 sometime at the end of March/beginning of April, with around 6 games remaining.
A great piece from Jonathan Wilson in The Guardian.
That's the other RedCafe myth to go with the Pogba one.
Expresses most of our feelings about Mourinho atm I think. Excellent piece, hope someone at Utd takes notice.
Football is so different from any other industry though. If he gets sacked he’ll get a golden handshake so no tribunal needed.
In my industry, he would be measured by his results, customer satisfaction and employee satisfaction. He’d either have been sacked already for those or he’d be sacked for slagging employees in public.
We could give him a billion pounds to spend and he’d still fail. He’s a busted flush. He poisons everything he touches and the sooner we get his stink off this club the sooner we can attempt to make positive steps. If the club truly is waiting until top four is mathematically impossible before handing him his P45 we deserve everything coming to us. This bloke supposedly dreamed about managing us his whole career, now he’s overseeing our collapse in to mediocrity. It’s a truly sorry state of affairs.
Cant wait to see the rumour mill starting about when he gets the chop... I thought why bother until the end of the season for a while but now I'm thinking just get it over and done with and maybe someone coming in now can rejuvenate the place
Pretty much agree with your considered points.
Like you I struggle to understand why this season has degenerated the way it has, as whatever caveats people attach to last seasons second position we were far more difficult to beat.
Anyway the situation requires urgent action.
I have to say that I have little confidence that history won't be repeated.
I strongly believe that the club needs to set out its plans for restoration of United back to the top and then communicate this to our supporters.
That was probably what he and Woody were discussing.
Woody: You were right all along. Should never have hired him
SBC: Yup, told you
Jose needs to get help. I think he needs a year out of the game and some rest and support. Fans are all too busy with the results to question why a once great manager has dropped off a cliff in less than 12 months. He looks spent and he might have darker issues to deal with. If anything tragic happened to him the whole footballing world would know the warning signs were clear as day only we were all too busy looking out for ourselves. His ability to self destruct has so far been limited to just his working life but I feel like something worse is around the corner for him if he doesn't hold his hands up soon.
The reasons are relatively simple. Last year United had a relatively high goal conversion rate and a high amounts of saves per goals, none of these things are sustainable.
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Nothing more needs saying.
Daniel Storey on the money. Again.
https://understat.com/league/EPL/2017 If you look at this, us finishing 2nd last year was fairly freakish and mostly built on us being clinical and De Gea playing out of his skin. Even this year we're doing better than we should be when using the same metrics, Mourinho has been here 2 and a half year and has never made us a particularly coherent unit but this year it has really gone to shit.
Agree with this wholeheartedly.
I'm that desperate now I'd give to Lingard for the rest of the season.
The happiest be been in months was when David McDonnell said he was about to be sacked. Feels like years ago.
Seriously. Why not.
IMHO it was neither of these things. Jose tactics were to play with caution because he understood the squad limitations.
He was severely criticised for this and as a result we are no longer playing with the same caution and have lost our way as highlighted by our goal difference.
Hell, at least he'd be get the team dancing through defense's and matches.
That's just not true. Last season we gave up chances at a rate of a bottom half club, but weren't punished. We created fewer chances than the other top 6, but we were clinical.
We've just reverted to averages. The style hasn't changed.
Yeah, like Mourinho would change his style of play cause of criticism.
Biggest whopper since Heinze.
I felt sorry for Moyes in the end, but never hated him. And Van Gaal remained likable as a character, despite the football being horrid. Felt a bit sorry for him too the way he was axed with it all spilling out as soon as we won the cup.
But everything surrounding Mourinho totally stinks. There is just nothing about him that I can get behind now.
I like Heinze up until he tried to get a move to the scousers. Seemed like a decent guy when he was playing for us. Ruined it all right at the end.
Yeah same. Liked him for the majority of his time here. It does sour the memory when you push for a Liverpool move though.
There are more then few, they are just faking it.
So according to you exceptional conversion rates and amounts of saves per goals have nothing to do with our results but the tactic that led to a relatively high amount of chances conceded and small amount of opportunities created is the reason why we finished 2nd?
Just to highlight it, currently we score on 28% of our shots on target, last season it was 38%, we are on pace to have more shots on targets this season. Last season we registered around 4 saves per goals conceded, this season 2 and we are on pace to have around the same amount of saves if we keep the same pace, 118 in 17/18 and around 125 in 18/19.
If i remember correctly, in response on opinions of Sir Bobby regarding JM, those in majority had a go by mentioning his relationships inside his family.
Nothing in press about Jose being close to getting the sack.
At this stage m it's not even his fault, Woodward and the board have turned us into a joke. Results don't matter, the football doesn't matter, the manager talking crap about the club doesn't matter. It's all about money and saving that all important 6-7 million. Clueless all around
At this stage m it's not even his fault, Woodward and the board have turned us into a joke. Results don't matter, the football doesn't matter, the manager talking crap about the club doesn't matter. It's all about money and saving that all important 6-7 million. Clueless all around
Well he did and he made that point very clearly.
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