Kill 'em all
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I would of course love to get into the top 4 but just seeing us improve and play good football in the last few months of the season would make me very happy.
This signing will kick start our defenders into better form, I'm sure of it.I think the Mata deal is important, but you still have glaring problems in that squad.
Mentality is big, but it's not as big as having a huge gap in the middle of the field and four defenders in awful form.
I'm not convinced, myself.This signing will kick start our defenders into better form, I'm sure of it.
I think starting Tuesday, we'll see a different United from the one we've seen this season so far.
Hope so, also still possible Mata won't be the only signing this window (its a success regardless but still have the feeling the club will move if they can).This signing will kick start our defenders into better form, I'm sure of it.
I think starting Tuesday, we'll see a different United from the one we've seen this season so far.
How is Mata going to improve your defence? If anything, surely it will put it under more pressure: Mourinho sold Mata partly because of his poor performance in tracking back.This signing will kick start our defenders into better form, I'm sure of it. ....
The defence for me is fine.They are suffering from a lack a lack of protection from the midfield and Carrick and fletcher need time to get their games together after injury and Fellaini will improve.It's still an area that needs addressing and it will be addressed in time.We need time to rebuild but it will happen!I think the Mata deal is important, but you still have glaring problems in that squad.
Mentality is big, but it's not as big as having a huge gap in the middle of the field and four defenders in awful form.
I will chop my penis off if you go on a 10 game win streak.I can't see past us for 4th now. Seriously, Mata is going to be a huge boost to the fans and more so the players. Player's mentality is severely underestimated in football and Mata is gonna be a huge boost to the players. I can see us easily going on a 10 game win streak. Defenders won't know who to mark as long as Moyes has the "balls" to bench valencia and to another extent ashley young. No fecking about, put fletcher and carrick in the middle and let 4 of mata/kagawa/rooney/rvp/januzaj/nani run wild.
I didn't post anything, just gave yours a 'like'@Damien what did your post say?
Ahh, ok.I didn't post anything, just gave yours a 'like'
Long time no see.Van Persie and Rooney returning will get United to 4th place. They are the difference between the themselves and the rest on the contenders.
I have no idea where Mata is actually going to play. Is he going to be stuck out wide. I think Mata signing will pick up the morale of the fans but I am not sure it will do any more than that. Does buying Mata actually address any of United's issues?
I still expect United to finish 4th though.
We don't know exactly where he'll play, but the hope from a lot of us is that him along with the others will keep Valencia out of the side and might result in us playing a bit narrower and not just crossing the ball in a lot to nobody in the box. Something along the lines of:Van Persie and Rooney returning will get United to 4th place. They are the difference between the themselves and the rest on the contenders.
I have no idea where Mata is actually going to play. Is he going to be stuck out wide. I think Mata signing will pick up the morale of the fans but I am not sure it will do any more than that. Does buying Mata actually address any of United's issues?
I still expect United to finish 4th though.
On paper, our poor league position is down to scoring only 14 goals in 11 home games. Signing Mata should address that.I think the Mata deal is important, but you still have glaring problems in that squad.
Mentality is big, but it's not as big as having a huge gap in the middle of the field and four defenders in awful form.
Hopefully we will play Mata and Adnan more narrow instead of Valencia and Young wideVan Persie and Rooney returning will get United to 4th place. They are the difference between the themselves and the rest on the contenders.
I have no idea where Mata is actually going to play. Is he going to be stuck out wide. I think Mata signing will pick up the morale of the fans but I am not sure it will do any more than that. Does buying Mata actually address any of United's issues?
I still expect United to finish 4th though.
That on paper looks a quality top 4 and would be a match for any defence in the country. The problem is they will have to dance to Moyes tune andWe don't know exactly where he'll play, but the hope from a lot of us is that him along with the others will keep Valencia out of the side and might result in us playing a bit narrower and not just crossing the ball in a lot to nobody in the box. Something along the lines of:
RvP
Januzaj - Rooney - Mata
Would do, with them all being pretty fluid, cutting in and whatnot, but we've got no idea what Moyes has planned and it could turn out to be something completely different.
When we've lined up with both Januzaj on the left and Valencia on the right, Januzaj cuts in while Valencia mostly crosses.
We don't know exactly where he'll play, but the hope from a lot of us is that him along with the others will keep Valencia out of the side and might result in us playing a bit narrower and not just crossing the ball in a lot to nobody in the box. Something along the lines of:
Would do, with them all being pretty fluid, cutting in and whatnot, but we've got no idea what Moyes has planned and it could turn out to be something completely different.RvP
Januzaj - Rooney - Mata
When we've lined up with both Januzaj on the left and Valencia on the right, Januzaj cuts in while Valencia mostly crosses.
Buying Mata, if he does replace Valencia in the lineup would make us a lot more creative and help fix that issue.
Yeah, that's what concerns a few, but we'll see how it pans out.That on paper looks a quality top 4 and would be a match for any defence in the country. The problem is they will have to dance to Moyes tune and
Creative for Moyes though is having Jack Daniels sauce with his steak.
I think we'd have to be delighted to have caught up 5pts in 3 games. And the scenario you've set out there is very plausible.Quite plausible things could look like this after the next three fixtures.
Liverpool: v Everton, v West Brom, Arsenal away (4 points)
Everton: Liverpool away, v Villa, Spurs away (5 points)
Man Utd: v Cardiff, Stoke away, v Fulham (9 points)
Spurs: v Man City, Hull away, v Everton (2 points)
Newcastle: v Norwich, v Sunderland, Chelsea away (6 points)
4. Liverpool (47pts)
5. Everton (47)
6. United (46)
7. Spurs (45)
8. Newcastle (42)
We've had a gaping hole in midfield for a long time now. It's possible to get past, especially now we have Mata. Remember, we haven't lost a game this season when Van Persie & Rooney have played. Although our defense has been shocking, without these two we've struggled to create and score and 'put games to bed'. A lot of the points we've dropped have been goals we've conceded towards the end of a game when teams have been putting huge pressure on us because all they need is one goal.I think the Mata deal is important, but you still have glaring problems in that squad.
Mentality is big, but it's not as big as having a huge gap in the middle of the field and four defenders in awful form.
Very good point. If the 'smaller' teams we face, see a starting lineup including RVP, Rooney, Mata and Januzaj and it doesn't put the fear of God into them, then fair play to them. The can still think we're a wounded animal and go for the kill, they'll get mauled though. When we've mauled a few teams, others will take notice and that fear factor that has been missing, will be back and teams will be very wary about going at us. This, I think will lead to us controlling games comfortably again and get that old confidence back.We've had a gaping hole in midfield for a long time now. It's possible to get past, especially now we have Mata. Remember, we haven't lost a game this season when Van Persie & Rooney have played. Although our defense has been shocking, without these two we've struggled to create and score and 'put games to bed'. A lot of the points we've dropped have been goals we've conceded towards the end of a game when teams have been putting huge pressure on us because all they need is one goal.
With those 2 back and Mata too, hopefully teams might be more concerned with defending than attacking against us. And hopefully we can finish games off and not give the opposition a chance to pull it back.
That is literally the best case scenario for you. I don't think it's likely to happen though. I think at least one ex-United lad will take points from youse.Quite plausible things could look like this after the next three fixtures.
Liverpool: v Everton, v West Brom, Arsenal away (4 points)
Everton: Liverpool away, v Villa, Spurs away (5 points)
Man Utd: v Cardiff, Stoke away, v Fulham (9 points)
Spurs: v Man City, Hull away, v Everton (2 points)
Newcastle: v Norwich, v Sunderland, Chelsea away (6 points)
4. Liverpool (47pts)
5. Everton (47)
6. United (46)
7. Spurs (45)
8. Newcastle (42)
It isn't the best case scenario, at all. Everton and Arsenal could quite conceivably take 3pts each of you.That is literally the best case scenario for you. I don't think it's likely to happen though. I think at least one ex-United lad will take points from youse.
Its ambitious given our recent form, but one has to believe the returns of Rooney, RvP, and the addition of Mata should result in a few favorable outcomes against the so called smaller Prem opponents.That is literally the best case scenario for you. I don't think it's likely to happen though. I think at least one ex-United lad will take points from youse.
Since the return of Fletcher and Carrick, there isn't really "a huge gap in the middle". Yes it's not an accomplished midfield but it's a lot better than what we started the season with.I think the Mata deal is important, but you still have glaring problems in that squad.
Mentality is big, but it's not as big as having a huge gap in the middle of the field and four defenders in awful form.
Dude, Carrick's out for a month or more again.Since the return of Fletcher and Carrick, there isn't really "a huge gap in the middle". Yes it's not an accomplished midfield but it's a lot better than what we started the season with.
Ah I forgot thatDude, Carrick's out for a month or more again.
I'm clinging on to it as a positive... may force our hand to go for a midfielder when we may have waited until summer. Glass half full 'n all that.Ah I forgot that
And you won't?We aren't up against the likes of City and Chelsea, it's Liverpool, Spurs and Everton we are talking about. These teams WILL drop points, and at unexpected places. We just need to sort ourselves out, and by that I mean getting RVP and Rooney fit. Have been saying that all season though just need to go on that 10 game run we usually go on every season and that fourth spot will be ours. Moyes has a history of finishing the season strongly as well.
I like that way of thinking.I'm clinging on to it as a positive... may force our hand to go for a midfielder when we may have waited until summer. Glass half full 'n all that.
Of course we will. The point he's trying to make is those 3 teams are very catchable as they will drop far more points than top 3.And you won't?