The RedCafe Boxing Thread

Fury with the extra weight is looking for a knock out in the first half of the fight imo. If he doesn't get the knockout in the first 6 rounds I think Usyk sales through the fight and wins by 2/3 rounds
 
Usyk is weak downstairs and if Fury works concertedly to the body - especially with the heavier weight and leaning - it's going to be a really tough fight for Usyk. Having said that, that extra weight is going to drain Fury against someone who has even more stamina than he does.

This'll be a fight of two halves, imo: first half heavily favours Fury, especially if he works to the body; second half, if Usyk survives, will have Fury burn out in terms of output and that'd be when Usyk can turn the screw again.

I expect Fury to be much meaner and focused on an objective tonight. I'd favour him for the size difference and Usyk's weakness to the body. I think he'll target it relentlessly and tie him up outside of that, plus the uppercut and hitting with the other hand in the clinch all favour Fury. The ref actually determines how much of the above he gets away with too.

6-4 in favour of Fury, for me.
You think it’ll end up on the cards?
 
You think it’ll end up on the cards?
Really depends on Usyk; if he can get through the first half of the fight and still has enough in the tank, he might get a late stoppage, otherwise it'll likely go to the decision.

Fury has backed himself with that extra weight to get things done early, or at least wear Usyk down so much, that he's not his usual self later in the fight. If he works the body hard enough (Usyk really doesn't like that), he may get an opening for an uppercut, which if connects flush, could see the fight end early, but I think that's less likely than either a TKO, or a late rally from Usyk if Fury has knackered himself out chasing the stoppage.
 
It's difficult to be certain Usyk can stop Fury (though I think it's possible, Usyk may have "solved" the Fury problem so to speak). He came close the first fight and Fury's chin is suspect but Usyk is not that sort of KO artist. Likewise the Brit stopping Usyk seems a bit of a long shot.

Going to the final bell favours Usyk because there's no doubt he's the better boxer overall.
 
Really depends on Usyk; if he can get through the first half of the fight and still has enough in the tank, he might get a late stoppage, otherwise it'll likely go to the decision.

Fury has backed himself with that extra weight to get things done early, or at least wear Usyk down so much, that he's not his usual self later in the fight. If he works the body hard enough (Usyk really doesn't like that), he may get an opening for an uppercut, which if connects flush, could see the fight end early, but I think that's less likely than either a TKO, or a late rally from Usyk if Fury has knackered himself out chasing the stoppage.
No one likes that. I'm not sure it's a particular weakness of Usyk. If it's from the Dubois incident, anyone hit flush by Dubois on that part of their body will know about it.

However, the fact is Fury was catching him with good, meaty body shots because no matter how skillful one is, the body is a bigger more stationary target than the head. So it could definitely come into play.

There's no clear favourite. Fury can win this but Usyk can as well and I hope he does.
 
Tyson has never been a knockout boxer, so his going heavy vs. Usyk is curious to say the least and it's going to backfire on him big time.

If and when Tyson, carrying all that extra weight, doesn't knock out Usyk, it's going to make it easier for Usyk to have the greater longevity in the fight and make the boxing count.

This isn't a knockout specialist putting on the pounds, afterall. This is a guy getting fat so he can clinch and lean on Usyk all fight, but he's too clever, too nimble, too accurate and too quick to get baited into that.

Usyk over 12 rounds. Unanimous.
 
Without the usual circus and pantomime which usually distracts Fury, I expect him to win this. If he wants to win he will. People are forgetting he was in complete control in the first fight but allowed himself to lose concentration, that won't happen this time.
 
No one likes that. I'm not sure it's a particular weakness of Usyk. If it's from the Dubois incident, anyone hit flush by Dubois on that part of their body will know about it.

However, the fact is Fury was catching him with good, meaty body shots because no matter how skillful one is, the body is a bigger more stationary target than the head. So it could definitely come into play.

There's no clear favourite. Fury can win this but Usyk can as well and I hope he does.
I think it is; he doesn’t like heavyweight shots to the body at all. Dubois isn’t the only one to hurt him down low, but he’s the one that has dropped him. The thing with Usyk is he adapts and avoids quickly and masks well, so the follow ups are infrequent, but Fury has the ability to work the openings and capitalise.

I expect it’ll be a concerted effort tonight.
 
Without the usual circus and pantomime which usually distracts Fury, I expect him to win this. If he wants to win he will. People are forgetting he was in complete control in the first fight but allowed himself to lose concentration, that won't happen this time.
He didn’t lose concentration, he didn’t have the stamina to follow up his successful attacks. The theatrics were to mask his inability to maintain the work rate. It’s an easy fix for him, but it remains to be seen if he’s managed it.
 
Can’t wait to watch the great man, what time is Itauma’s fight expected?

According to the schedule posted on the last page just before 10pm.

Allan/Fisher is currently halfway through R7 now so more or less on track at the moment.

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Usyk v Fury 2 Reignited card fight times

Fight UK (GMT) US - ET Saudi Arabia (KSA)
Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury 11.00pm 6.00pm 1.00am
Moses Itauma vs. Demsey McKean 9.55pm 4.55pm 12.55am
Serhii Bohachuk vs. Ishmael Davis 9.00pm 4.00pm 12.00am
Johnny Fisher vs. Dave Allen 8.07pm 3.07pm 11.07pm
Peter McGrail vs. Rhys Edwards 7.20pm 2.20pm 10.20pm
Isaac Lowe vs. Lee McGregor 6.32pm 1.32pm 9.32pm
Daniel Lapin vs Dylan Colin 5.47pm 12.47pm 8.47pm
Andrii Novytskyi vs Edgar Ramirez 5.00pm
 
I bet he’s got no socks on and loafers too. The shit turnip.
Anyway, back to the boxing….

This is the heavyweight boxing I know….two fat blokes slugging it out at close distance.

Never mind Usyk with his handstands and fecking CrossFit. This is real heavyweight boxing
 
Anyway, back to the boxing….

This is the heavyweight boxing I know….two fat blokes slugging it out at close distance.

Never mind Usyk with his handstands and fecking CrossFit. This is real heavyweight boxing

Never watched a Fisher fight before, just know him from TikTok eating massive Chinese takeaways with his dad.
 
Fisher would be the first to admit he didn't win that. Allen with the knockdown should of had that.
 
Disgusting decision in favour of Fisher. Taylor vs Catterall levels of corruption, if not worse.
 
Guys how is the card progressing - we still on for a half ten start ?
 
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Usyk v Fury 2 Reignited card fight times

Fight UK (GMT) US - ET Saudi Arabia (KSA)
Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tyson Fury 11.00pm 6.00pm 1.00am
Moses Itauma vs. Demsey McKean 9.55pm 4.55pm 12.55am
Serhii Bohachuk vs. Ishmael Davis 9.00pm 4.00pm 12.00am
Johnny Fisher vs. Dave Allen 8.07pm 3.07pm 11.07pm
Peter McGrail vs. Rhys Edwards 7.20pm 2.20pm 10.20pm
Isaac Lowe vs. Lee McGregor 6.32pm 1.32pm 9.32pm
Daniel Lapin vs Dylan Colin 5.47pm 12.47pm 8.47pm
Andrii Novytskyi vs Edgar Ramirez 5.00pm

Yup, just heard on the radio that it's expected to start 'around' 11.
 
…..:he’s actually got a top on. Not sure if it was there before and we’re both blind, or whether someone had asked him to get dressed
I missed it! I did message His Excellency if I’m honest and let him know I was seething over the whole thing.