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Joined
Mar 30, 2014
Messages
12,147
Location
Southend Utd (soccermanager)
Supports
#Justice4Wang!
DRAFT (QUEENS PARK RANGERS)

# of players available: 31 (due to minimum squad size of 21, loans not included)

Rules
  1. Refer to "Draft Order"
  2. 12 hours per pick, starts now. Miss out means you relinquish your pick
  3. Declare your pick, then bid (doesn't have to wait until draft is finished)
  4. Inform the next person in draft order
  5. Cash only. No P/E
    • Squad value <100m: 1.1x FV
    • Squad value 100m-200m: 1.3x FV
    • Squad value 200m-400m: 1.5x FV
    • Squad value >400m: 2x FV
  6. You can skip if you want to, and/or if you are unable to bid (skipping in advance is encouraged)
  7. Must comply with FFP
  8. After draft is completed, Damien will check if rules are followed before accepting those bids
  9. After all bids have gone through, Damien will withdraw from Queens Park Rangers
Draft Order
This is based on squad value as of now.
  1. Mansfield Town - Missed out
  2. Bolton Wanderers - Mariusz Stepinski - £3,640,000 (1.3x FV)
  3. Bury - Missed out
  4. Birmingham City - Missed out
  5. West Ham United - Leon Bailey - £18,720,000 (1.3x FV)
  6. Kidderminster Harriers - Manuel Locatelli - £15,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  7. Cardiff City - Kepa Arrizabalaga - £24,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  8. Bristol City - Skip
  9. Blackburn Rovers - Missed out
  10. Barnsley - Andre Silva - £21,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  11. Reading - Missed out
  12. Milton Keynes Dons - Alphonso Davies - £3,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  13. Derby County - Rafinha - £15,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  14. Hereford - Alban Lafont - £15,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  15. Plymouth Argyle - Emanuel Mammana - £10,500,000 (1.5x FV)
  16. Bournemouth - Duje Caleta-Car - (1.5x FV)
  17. Ipswich Town - £301.9M
  18. Norwich City - £302M
  19. Southend United - £307.6M
  20. Southampton - £326.2M
  21. Middlesbrough - £328.6M
  22. Tottenham Hotspur - £368.1M
  23. Fulham - £391.5M
  24. Wolverhampton Wanderers - £395.6M
  25. Chelsea - £420.8M
  26. Sunderland - £426.4M
  27. Aston Villa - £437.7M
  28. Liverpool - £445.5M
  29. Newcastle United - £445.9M
  30. Darlington - £483.6M
  31. Nottingham Forest - £533.7M
  32. Manchester City - £543.8M
  33. Arsenal - £600.2M
  34. Everton - £638.3M
  35. Manchester United - £762.9M

@Stobzilla
 

Stobzilla

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Joined
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Messages
22,007
Location
Grove Street, home.
DRAFT (QUEENS PARK RANGERS)

# of players available: 31 (due to minimum squad size of 21, loans not included)

Rules
  1. Refer to "Draft Order"
  2. 12 hours per pick, starts now. Miss out means you relinquish your pick
  3. Declare your pick, then bid (doesn't have to wait until draft is finished)
  4. Inform the next person in draft order
  5. Cash only. No P/E
    • Squad value <100m: 1.1x FV
    • Squad value 100m-200m: 1.3x FV
    • Squad value 200m-400m: 1.5x FV
    • Squad value >400m: 2x FV
  6. You can skip if you want to, and/or if you are unable to bid (skipping in advance is encouraged)
  7. Must comply with FFP
  8. After draft is completed, Damien will check if rules are followed before accepting those bids
  9. After all bids have gone through, Damien will withdraw from Queens Park Rangers
Draft Order
This is based on squad value as of now.
  1. Mansfield Town - Missed out
  2. Bolton Wanderers - Mariusz Stepinski - £3,640,000 (1.3x FV)
  3. Bury - Missed out
  4. Birmingham City - Missed out
  5. West Ham United - Leon Bailey - £18,720,000 (1.3x FV)
  6. Kidderminster Harriers - Manuel Locatelli - £15,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  7. Cardiff City - Kepa Arrizabalaga - £24,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  8. Bristol City - Skip
  9. Blackburn Rovers - Missed out
  10. Barnsley - Andre Silva - £21,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  11. Reading - Missed out
  12. Milton Keynes Dons - Alphonso Davies - £3,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  13. Derby County - Rafinha - £15,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  14. Hereford - Alban Lafont - £15,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  15. Plymouth Argyle - Emanuel Mammana - £10,500,000 (1.5x FV)
  16. Bournemouth - Duje Caleta-Car - (1.5x FV)
  17. Ipswich Town - £301.9M
  18. Norwich City - £302M
  19. Southend United - £307.6M
  20. Southampton - £326.2M
  21. Middlesbrough - £328.6M
  22. Tottenham Hotspur - £368.1M
  23. Fulham - £391.5M
  24. Wolverhampton Wanderers - £395.6M
  25. Chelsea - £420.8M
  26. Sunderland - £426.4M
  27. Aston Villa - £437.7M
  28. Liverpool - £445.5M
  29. Newcastle United - £445.9M
  30. Darlington - £483.6M
  31. Nottingham Forest - £533.7M
  32. Manchester City - £543.8M
  33. Arsenal - £600.2M
  34. Everton - £638.3M
  35. Manchester United - £762.9M

@Stobzilla
Pass I think.
 

green_smiley

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Joined
Mar 30, 2014
Messages
12,147
Location
Southend Utd (soccermanager)
Supports
#Justice4Wang!
DRAFT (QUEENS PARK RANGERS)

# of players available: 31 (due to minimum squad size of 21, loans not included)

Rules
  1. Refer to "Draft Order"
  2. 12 hours per pick, starts now. Miss out means you relinquish your pick
  3. Declare your pick, then bid (doesn't have to wait until draft is finished)
  4. Inform the next person in draft order
  5. Cash only. No P/E
    • Squad value <100m: 1.1x FV
    • Squad value 100m-200m: 1.3x FV
    • Squad value 200m-400m: 1.5x FV
    • Squad value >400m: 2x FV
  6. You can skip if you want to, and/or if you are unable to bid (skipping in advance is encouraged)
  7. Must comply with FFP
  8. After draft is completed, Damien will check if rules are followed before accepting those bids
  9. After all bids have gone through, Damien will withdraw from Queens Park Rangers
Draft Order
This is based on squad value as of now.
  1. Mansfield Town - Missed out
  2. Bolton Wanderers - Mariusz Stepinski - £3,640,000 (1.3x FV)
  3. Bury - Missed out
  4. Birmingham City - Missed out
  5. West Ham United - Leon Bailey - £18,720,000 (1.3x FV)
  6. Kidderminster Harriers - Manuel Locatelli - £15,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  7. Cardiff City - Kepa Arrizabalaga - £24,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  8. Bristol City - Skip
  9. Blackburn Rovers - Missed out
  10. Barnsley - Andre Silva - £21,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  11. Reading - Missed out
  12. Milton Keynes Dons - Alphonso Davies - £3,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  13. Derby County - Rafinha - £15,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  14. Hereford - Alban Lafont - £15,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  15. Plymouth Argyle - Emanuel Mammana - £10,500,000 (1.5x FV)
  16. Bournemouth - Duje Caleta-Car - £9,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  17. Ipswich Town - Pass
  18. Norwich City - £302M
  19. Southend United - £307.6M
  20. Southampton - £326.2M
  21. Middlesbrough - £328.6M
  22. Tottenham Hotspur - £368.1M
  23. Fulham - £391.5M
  24. Wolverhampton Wanderers - £395.6M
  25. Chelsea - £420.8M
  26. Sunderland - £426.4M
  27. Aston Villa - £437.7M
  28. Liverpool - £445.5M
  29. Newcastle United - £445.9M
  30. Darlington - £483.6M
  31. Nottingham Forest - £533.7M
  32. Manchester City - £543.8M
  33. Arsenal - £600.2M
  34. Everton - £638.3M
  35. Manchester United - £762.9M

@It's a farce!
 

RedSky

Shepherd’s Delight
Scout
Joined
Jul 27, 2006
Messages
74,386
Location
Hereford FC (Soccermanager)
DRAFT (QUEENS PARK RANGERS)

# of players available: 31 (due to minimum squad size of 21, loans not included)

Rules
  1. Refer to "Draft Order"
  2. 12 hours per pick, starts now. Miss out means you relinquish your pick
  3. Declare your pick, then bid (doesn't have to wait until draft is finished)
  4. Inform the next person in draft order
  5. Cash only. No P/E
    • Squad value <100m: 1.1x FV
    • Squad value 100m-200m: 1.3x FV
    • Squad value 200m-400m: 1.5x FV
    • Squad value >400m: 2x FV
  6. You can skip if you want to, and/or if you are unable to bid (skipping in advance is encouraged)
  7. Must comply with FFP
  8. After draft is completed, Damien will check if rules are followed before accepting those bids
  9. After all bids have gone through, Damien will withdraw from Queens Park Rangers
Draft Order
This is based on squad value as of now.
  1. Mansfield Town - Missed out
  2. Bolton Wanderers - Mariusz Stepinski - £3,640,000 (1.3x FV)
  3. Bury - Missed out
  4. Birmingham City - Missed out
  5. West Ham United - Leon Bailey - £18,720,000 (1.3x FV)
  6. Kidderminster Harriers - Manuel Locatelli - £15,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  7. Cardiff City - Kepa Arrizabalaga - £24,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  8. Bristol City - Skip
  9. Blackburn Rovers - Missed out
  10. Barnsley - Andre Silva - £21,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  11. Reading - Missed out
  12. Milton Keynes Dons - Alphonso Davies - £3,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  13. Derby County - Rafinha - £15,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  14. Hereford - Alban Lafont - £15,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  15. Plymouth Argyle - Emanuel Mammana - £10,500,000 (1.5x FV)
  16. Bournemouth - Duje Caleta-Car - £9,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  17. Ipswich Town - Pass
  18. Norwich City - Axel Tuanzebe - £3,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  19. Southend United - £307.6M
  20. Southampton - £326.2M
  21. Middlesbrough - £328.6M
  22. Tottenham Hotspur - £368.1M
  23. Fulham - £391.5M
  24. Wolverhampton Wanderers - £395.6M
  25. Chelsea - £420.8M
  26. Sunderland - £426.4M
  27. Aston Villa - £437.7M
  28. Liverpool - £445.5M
  29. Newcastle United - £445.9M
  30. Darlington - £483.6M
  31. Nottingham Forest - £533.7M
  32. Manchester City - £543.8M
  33. Arsenal - £600.2M
  34. Everton - £638.3M
  35. Manchester United - £762.9M

Norwich PM'd Damien with his request.

@green_smiley
 

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Joined
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Messages
12,147
Location
Southend Utd (soccermanager)
Supports
#Justice4Wang!
DRAFT (QUEENS PARK RANGERS)

# of players available: 31 (due to minimum squad size of 21, loans not included)

Rules
  1. Refer to "Draft Order"
  2. 12 hours per pick, starts now. Miss out means you relinquish your pick
  3. Declare your pick, then bid (doesn't have to wait until draft is finished)
  4. Inform the next person in draft order
  5. Cash only. No P/E
    • Squad value <100m: 1.1x FV
    • Squad value 100m-200m: 1.3x FV
    • Squad value 200m-400m: 1.5x FV
    • Squad value >400m: 2x FV
  6. You can skip if you want to, and/or if you are unable to bid (skipping in advance is encouraged)
  7. Must comply with FFP
  8. After draft is completed, Damien will check if rules are followed before accepting those bids
  9. After all bids have gone through, Damien will withdraw from Queens Park Rangers
Draft Order
This is based on squad value as of now.
  1. Mansfield Town - Missed out
  2. Bolton Wanderers - Mariusz Stepinski - £3,640,000 (1.3x FV)
  3. Bury - Missed out
  4. Birmingham City - Missed out
  5. West Ham United - Leon Bailey - £18,720,000 (1.3x FV)
  6. Kidderminster Harriers - Manuel Locatelli - £15,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  7. Cardiff City - Kepa Arrizabalaga - £24,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  8. Bristol City - Skip
  9. Blackburn Rovers - Missed out
  10. Barnsley - Andre Silva - £21,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  11. Reading - Missed out
  12. Milton Keynes Dons - Alphonso Davies - £3,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  13. Derby County - Rafinha - £15,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  14. Hereford - Alban Lafont - £15,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  15. Plymouth Argyle - Emanuel Mammana - £10,500,000 (1.5x FV)
  16. Bournemouth - Duje Caleta-Car - £9,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  17. Ipswich Town - Pass
  18. Norwich City - Axel Tuanzebe - £3,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  19. Southend United - Federico Valverde - £7,500,000 (1.5x FV)
  20. Southampton - £326.2M
  21. Middlesbrough - £328.6M
  22. Tottenham Hotspur - £368.1M
  23. Fulham - £391.5M
  24. Wolverhampton Wanderers - £395.6M
  25. Chelsea - £420.8M
  26. Sunderland - £426.4M
  27. Aston Villa - £437.7M
  28. Liverpool - £445.5M
  29. Newcastle United - £445.9M
  30. Darlington - £483.6M
  31. Nottingham Forest - £533.7M
  32. Manchester City - £543.8M
  33. Arsenal - £600.2M
  34. Everton - £638.3M
  35. Manchester United - £762.9M

@Sepukku
 

2mufc0

Everything is fair game in capitalism!
Joined
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Messages
17,038
Supports
Dragon of Dojima
DRAFT (QUEENS PARK RANGERS)

# of players available: 31 (due to minimum squad size of 21, loans not included)

Rules
  1. Refer to "Draft Order"
  2. 12 hours per pick, starts now. Miss out means you relinquish your pick
  3. Declare your pick, then bid (doesn't have to wait until draft is finished)
  4. Inform the next person in draft order
  5. Cash only. No P/E
    • Squad value <100m: 1.1x FV
    • Squad value 100m-200m: 1.3x FV
    • Squad value 200m-400m: 1.5x FV
    • Squad value >400m: 2x FV
  6. You can skip if you want to, and/or if you are unable to bid (skipping in advance is encouraged)
  7. Must comply with FFP
  8. After draft is completed, Damien will check if rules are followed before accepting those bids
  9. After all bids have gone through, Damien will withdraw from Queens Park Rangers
Draft Order
This is based on squad value as of now.
  1. Mansfield Town - Missed out
  2. Bolton Wanderers - Mariusz Stepinski - £3,640,000 (1.3x FV)
  3. Bury - Missed out
  4. Birmingham City - Missed out
  5. West Ham United - Leon Bailey - £18,720,000 (1.3x FV)
  6. Kidderminster Harriers - Manuel Locatelli - £15,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  7. Cardiff City - Kepa Arrizabalaga - £24,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  8. Bristol City - Skip
  9. Blackburn Rovers - Missed out
  10. Barnsley - Andre Silva - £21,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  11. Reading - Missed out
  12. Milton Keynes Dons - Alphonso Davies - £3,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  13. Derby County - Rafinha - £15,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  14. Hereford - Alban Lafont - £15,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  15. Plymouth Argyle - Emanuel Mammana - £10,500,000 (1.5x FV)
  16. Bournemouth - Duje Caleta-Car - £9,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  17. Ipswich Town - Pass
  18. Norwich City - Axel Tuanzebe - £3,000,000 (1.5x FV)
  19. Southend United - £307.6M
  20. Southampton - £326.2M
  21. Middlesbrough - £328.6M
  22. Tottenham Hotspur - £368.1M
  23. Fulham - £391.5M
  24. Wolverhampton Wanderers - £395.6M
  25. Chelsea - £420.8M
  26. Sunderland - £426.4M
  27. Aston Villa - £437.7M
  28. Liverpool - £445.5M
  29. Newcastle United - £445.9M
  30. Darlington - £483.6M
  31. Nottingham Forest - £533.7M
  32. Manchester City - £543.8M
  33. Arsenal - £600.2M
  34. Everton - £638.3M
  35. Manchester United - £762.9M

Norwich PM'd Damien with his request.

@green_smiley
Why did it take so long for him to be taken esp on a United based forum.
 

Cassady

Supports Liverpool, Not Accrington Stanley
Joined
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Messages
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Location
South Liverpool.
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Accrington Stanley.
Darder is on hiw way out but need to sell one more player as will be just short. If I had players on loan I wouldnt have to. :angel:
 

RedSky

Shepherd’s Delight
Scout
Joined
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Messages
74,386
Location
Hereford FC (Soccermanager)
Loan Cap (S15 and onwards)
  1. Applies to unmanaged clubs only
  2. Loan cap = FFP minus 40, first come first serve (e.g. if your FFP aka squad limit is 50, your loan cap = 50 - 40 = 10, which means you can only loan 10 players out to unmanaged clubs)
  3. Only players with rating 75 and/or above are allowed to be loaned out
  4. Duration - until Turn 2 every season. After Turn 2, it is free-for-all
1. Same rule
2. FFP minus 42
3. Same rule
4. Turn 4 instead of Turn 2
 

2mufc0

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We could reduce the max loans at the start of the season to allow people more chance. Perhaps all extend the loan window by say another 2 games.
Extending the loan window would be the best solution.
 

RedSky

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To put it into perspective... I have 21 players rated 77 or less. Some of these players have risen from 70 and haven't had their wages increased yet. But the total for those players comes to £105,370 every matchday. That's 4m a season in wages.

Now we poor people in the lower divisions who don't have fancy Division 1 incomes are already getting savaged. Restricting our loans yet further would just be another nail in our coffins.
 

The Taurean

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Nothing is so common as the wish to be remarkable.
To put it into perspective... I have 21 players rated 77 or less. Some of these players have risen from 70 and haven't had their wages increased yet. But the total for those players comes to £105,370 every matchday. That's 4m a season in wages.

Now we poor people in the lower divisions who don't have fancy Division 1 incomes are already getting savaged. Restricting our loans yet further would just be another nail in our coffins.
Isn't the objective to broaden distribution of loaned players for lower division teams?
 

Cassady

Supports Liverpool, Not Accrington Stanley
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We could reduce the max loans at the start of the season to allow people more chance. Perhaps all extend the loan window by say another 2 games.
My idea may work or may not. At the start of this season we all put whoever onto the loan list but only accept one or two at a time . A bit like a draft we take it in turns.
 

Cassady

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Will but happy to go with anything as just want to get some out as for a skint club it makes a difference. Think since I joined in Feb 2015 Ive only loaned out 4 / 5 players.
 

Cassady

Supports Liverpool, Not Accrington Stanley
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That would kill the smaller clubs is the problem. 7k a week for a 75 rated player. Might not sound like much, but that alone is £266,000 a season.
And if I had two loaned out I wouldnt have to sell another potential talent to fund the Mamanna transfer. Also. I cant swap players with external teams if Iam slightly in the red. I have to sell .
 

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With existing loan quota, most would have been taken up by Turn 2 anyway, so there is no point to extend it to Turn 4 (more work for me as well :angel:)

To make a difference, reduce loan quota even further (tbf, only complain so far is from @Cassady :))