Yep. I'm not sure why people are so desperate to put their foot down on predicting it. There's nothing particularly impressive about showing yourself to be a fickle, simple-minded football fan that makes such definitive season-wide predictions after the first month of football in a 9-month season. It's not like you know something we don't. I'm not saying people shouldn't ever predict anything, but the conviction in the predictions, especially when you take into context the sample size of the evidence, is quite something.City win the league in September every season.
I like this post.Yep. I'm not sure why people are so desperate to put their foot down on predicting it. There's nothing particularly impressive about showing yourself to be a fickle, simple-minded football fan that makes such definitive season-wide predictions after the first month of football in a 9-month season. It's not like you know something we don't. I'm not saying people shouldn't ever predict anything, but the conviction in the predictions, especially when you take into context the sample size of the evidence, is quite something.
They won CL last season too when they won against Barca in fecking group stage.City win the league in September every season.
We are talking about the title race in September. Try not to be sensible.There are at least three things that make the title challenge difficult to predict:
1. injuries (to key players)
2. how far will the contenders go in Europe/domestic cups
3. the development of young players
All of the contenders have young players who can develop further or blossom into world class players during this campaign.
United: all forwards except for Zlatan are not yet in their prime, Martial and Rashford are very young and we don't know what to expect from them.
Chelsea: Hazard is arguably the best player but he is entering his prime now and can get even better. Morata too
City: they have plenty of young players who can become top top footballers: Jesus, Sane, Bernardo, Mendy and even Sterling.
Spurs: imagine that Kane, Alli, Eriksen, Dier... are better than last season. Why not?
Liverpool: all their forwards and some of their mids are still developing as players: Coutinho, Mane, Salah, Can...I wouldn't count them as contenders but there is room for improvement there. They'll be stronger than last season.
It's unpredictable for various reasons.
0-0 borefest with few red cards to both teams.What is the best outcome for United from Chelsea and City this weekend? Draw or Chelsea win? If Chelsea win, they will be just 3 pts off United after having already played 3 of the top 6 from last season. Which would make their start excellent despite the loss from Burnley. A draw would be good for City though, will give them courage that they can do it this season.
Draw. Chelsea are as much title challengers as us and City, even if people don't love them as much as they love City on here.What is the best outcome for United from Chelsea and City this weekend? Draw or Chelsea win? If Chelsea win, they will be just 3 pts off United after having already played 3 of the top 6 from last season. Which would make their start excellent despite the loss from Burnley. A draw would be good for City though, will give them courage that they can do it this season.
I would take any of a draw or a win for Chelsea @Treble .What is the best outcome for United from Chelsea and City this weekend? Draw or Chelsea win? If Chelsea win, they will be just 3 pts off United after having already played 3 of the top 6 from last season. Which would make their start excellent despite the loss from Burnley. A draw would be good for City though, will give them courage that they can do it this season.
Tend to agree. Two points lost for any of them would be probably the best outcome now.Draw. Chelsea are as much title challengers as us and City, even if people don't love them as much as they love City on here.
I am as worried about Chelsea as about City. If Conte wins this, he'll look to go on a similar winning run as last year.What is the best outcome for United from Chelsea and City this weekend? Draw or Chelsea win? If Chelsea win, they will be just 3 pts off United after having already played 3 of the top 6 from last season. Which would make their start excellent despite the loss from Burnley. A draw would be good for City though, will give them courage that they can do it this season.
Let's see how they cope with playing every 3 days, as their squad look a bit short.It's at least a 3 horse race. Considering Chelsea are only 3 points back with Hazard yet to properly come into the side, they're looking very dangerous imo.
It is not almost certain that their form will dip drastically to the point that unless they are able to grit undeserved points, they will start losing games. That's my point. That may happen but until then it seems disingenious to award extra grit points to Chelsea and United based on coming by "undeserved victories". I think that avoiding those scenarios is better. Still early days though.Once in a blue moon you might get a team just blast their way through the season, but its extremely rare. When you look at this season, there's at least 3 teams good enough to compete for the title, so unless City manage to do something very unusual there will almost certainly come a point in the season where their form dips. At that point either they dig in and show grit, and find a way to keep collecting the points anyway, or they risk getting overtaken. If that happens, then its a hit to the confidence that's an extra challenge to overcome as they try and pull themselves back into form.
Few things are more demoralizing than watching your rivals playing like crap and still walking away with 3 points week after week. You guys used to do it all the time under SAF, and as a rival it was devastating. Mourinho ingrained the same mentality into Chelsea long ago, and at the times when we've had successful seasons, that's been a huge part of the reason why.
As for City leading, its 6 games into the season and you're level on points. It's hardly evidence of anything, especially considering City actually have less points now than they did after 6 games last season.
22 man brawl with points deductions for both teams0-0 borefest with few red cards to both teams.
In my opinion there won't be games in the Premier league at least where city will get clearly out played. They're style of play pretty much guarantees that they won't get dominated in possession or chances.It's clear you are not willing to understand the point. Not every day will you lot get to play against a 10 men Liverpool side or watford side who are generous to gift you goals. There will be days where your opponents will be stronger than you, the real test will be then. It is not just about sitting back and defending (sometimes pep may even have to do that) , it is also about defending well and countering their attacks aka being pragmatic.
Those games at most will be very rare, and against some top sides.In my opinion there won't be games in the Premier league at least where city will get clearly out played. They're style of play pretty much guarantees that they won't get dominated in possession or chances.
Let's stop with this deliberate obtuseness and just accept that they have a very, very strong squad which people rightly predict that it will most likely carry them to the title come mayCity win the league in September every season.
Like it does every single season that everyone says the same thing.Let's stop with this deliberate obtuseness and just accept that they have a very, very strong squad which people rightly predict that it will most likely carry them to the title come may
Is that just your opinion or it is widely shared by Chelsea fans?Are you on a fecking wum or something? We've lost JT at the back and brought in Rudiger and Christiansen, both of whom have looked outstanding so far, and Zappacosta who has already shown promise in the 2 games or so he's played so far. Matic was looking like a tired uninspired version of himself in his last couple of seasons regardless of how he's now re-energized at United, and we've replaced him with an extremely exciting and vibrant talent in Bakayoko. We've also added Drinkwater to strength our depth even more. Oh and of course yes we lost a great striker, and have replaced him with a guy who currently has 6 goals and 2 assists in his first 6 games.
The main criticism of the team last year was that we lacked depth. We've now got much more depth, and have also upgraded in several positions. There's certainly an argument to be made that City are the strongest squad in the league (although its up for debate), but this running down of our squad is ridiculous.
It was an opinion shared by a lot of people on the Caf IIRC. Was mildly surprised when Mourinho decided to go for him.Is that just your opinion or it is widely shared by Chelsea fans?
They have more depth now and generally look better with their free flowing, well worked attacksLike it does every single season that everyone says the same thing.
You have no way of knowing whether those predictions are based on a high-quality analysis of football or not. Maybe the people discussing the title race are just that good. It's massively premature to suggest otherwise.Yep. I'm not sure why people are so desperate to put their foot down on predicting it. There's nothing particularly impressive about showing yourself to be a fickle, simple-minded football fan that makes such definitive season-wide predictions after the first month of football in a 9-month season. It's not like you know something we don't. I'm not saying people shouldn't ever predict anything, but the conviction in the predictions, especially when you take into context the sample size of the evidence, is quite something.
Chelsea win, City are like Arsenal 2004 - they collapse after their first defeatWhat is the best outcome for United from Chelsea and City this weekend? Draw or Chelsea win? If Chelsea win, they will be just 3 pts off United after having already played 3 of the top 6 from last season. Which would make their start excellent despite the loss from Burnley. A draw would be good for City though, will give them courage that they can do it this season.
Is there a link to the distance covered stat by teams which has us in the bottom 3?
You know this how?Chelsea win, City are like Arsenal 2004 - they collapse after their first defeat
I've watched football for longer than 6 weeksYou know this how?
