The True Geordie

[Rozay]

Ugh I hate cancel culture.

It’s total bollocks and largely false righteousness too.

Also, and I say this as a proud black person who has received my fair share - I do think this general anti-racism crusade is misplaced, commercialised and all other similar adjectives I can’t be bothered to think of at present.

 

[horsechoker]

The tweets don't actually mention that Tate has converted to Islam which is something quite pertinent.

https://www.indy100.com/viral/andrew-tate-true-geordie-islamophobia

 

[jeepers]

Can’t be fecked about what happened, also found the cnut annoying af after like two minutes into the one and only video of his I watched.

But you know what’s worse than a racist JOKE? PC culture trying to pounce on and cancel every single thought/comment/opinion. For feck’s sake, everybody just needs to mind their own fecking business. The cnut probably thought he bantering with his internet mates aka viewers, that’s why he let slip. Streamers are usually very careful because they can get demonetised/banned/cancelled over the tiniest issues. And they have “haters” waiting to pounce on any mistake they make and then complain about it online and hope it stirs up a fuss.

It’s like overhearing a loud cnut telling his other cnut mates a racist joke at the pub, getting angry about it and running off to the nearest copper to report it.

 

[duffer]

First off islam isn't a race and secondly while it's an offensive and dumb joke which im not denying but if it's ok to make to jokes about catholics diddling kids this should be permissible as well.

Islamophobic/racist, there's no difference for what we're talking about.

And as for "permissable", nobody has said he is not permitted to make the joke he did. He's not been banned and he's not being prosecuted.

Freedom of speech doesn't mean you can just say anything but nobody is allowed to dislike what you say or distance themselves from you because of what you have said.

 

[Red the Bear]

Islamophobic/racist, there's no difference for what we're talking about.

And as for "permissable", nobody has said he is not permitted to make the joke he did. He's not been banned and he's not being prosecuted.

Freedom of speech doesn't mean you can just say anything but nobody is allowed to dislike what you say or distance themselves from you because of what you have said.

Fair enough, I just find it frivolous.

 

[duffer]

But you know what’s worse than a racist JOKE? PC culture trying to pounce on and cancel every single thought/comment/opinion. For feck’s sake, everybody just needs to mind their own fecking business.

Gymshark paid him to be a "partner" because he has a big online following. It's literally "their business" what he says to his online follwers. They didn't like it so binned him off. It's now no longer their business.

 

[Sweet Square]

Was tempered to post the video in the hypernormalisation thread. Everything from the apology video to the reaction to it is just so weird.

 

[JJ12]

Seemingly Gymshark, who don't want to be associated someone like him anymore.

I don’t think they care about the joke to be honest. Same as other big companies, they react when they fear backlash will risk their profits.

He was an idiot for what he said either way.

 

[duffer]

I don’t think they care about the joke to be honest. Same as other big companies, they react when they fear backlash will risk their profits.

Maybe, maybe not. I've worked for a firm who made some decisions based on genuine ethical reasons which cost them money so it does happen.

It's kinda irrelevant though. Only a complete moron thinks you can make "he's a muslim so must be a suicide bomber" jokes online in 2022 and not be called up on it.

 

[Judge Red]

True Geordie initially came to my attention when he made a tearful and angry reaction video about Logan Paul mocking suicide. The circle of life.

 

[Lay]

Life was a lot more simple for him when he used to post videos calling out Nile Ranger

 

[Still ill]

What a depressing thread. The shittiness of modern life in microcosm.

 

[Schmeichel=God]

It’s total bollocks and largely false righteousness too.

Also, and I say this as a proud black person who has received my fair share - I do think this general anti-racism crusade is misplaced, commercialised and all other similar adjectives I can’t be bothered to think of at present.

It's like a flock of people having a circlejerk who pat themselves on the back after every successful takedown, yet immediately have a void of purpose until the next target is acquired.

Not tolerating prejudice is required, and an ongoing pervasive message of unacceptance of such and instead unity is certainly called for. I also believe in second chances without being castigated to the nth degree for a misstep. Therefore cancel culture/career ruination imo often feels excessive. Yes commercialisation of it all is certainly a thing and unfortunately inopportune opportunists will always have their way.

 

[Zlatattack]

Can’t be fecked about what happened, also found the cnut annoying af after like two minutes into the one and only video of his I watched.

But you know what’s worse than a racist JOKE? PC culture trying to pounce on and cancel every single thought/comment/opinion. For feck’s sake, everybody just needs to mind their own fecking business. The cnut probably thought he bantering with his internet mates aka viewers, that’s why he let slip. Streamers are usually very careful because they can get demonetised/banned/cancelled over the tiniest issues. And they have “haters” waiting to pounce on any mistake they make and then complain about it online and hope it stirs up a fuss.

It’s like overhearing a loud cnut telling his other cnut mates a racist joke at the pub, getting angry about it and running off to the nearest copper to report it.

I disagree. It's important the cnuts get shut down. They have a wider reach than just other grown up cnuts. To allow them to go unchecked normalises their hateful views.

 

[RacingClub]

I mean it's pretty obvious that he is most likely just an absolute idiot who made a terrible joke than a real Islamophobe (Someone above mentioned Lawrence McKenna, his best friend and co-host, having a Muslim wife and Child).

Any of his advertisers are well within their rights to disassociate themselves from the situation too, I wouldn't want my brand related to it either.

Actions have consequences.

I do wonder how much of the backlash is being pushed by Tate (a wholly unpleasant person that I had no idea existed until I read his thread on here) and his online fan base (cult?) who are alleging that TG said that all Muslims should blow themselves up.

"After me converting to Islam, he made a piece on of his podcast saying I'm not true to my conversion and then insulted all Muslims. Saying that Muslims blow themselves up, and that I should blow myself up and we should all blow ourselves up."

As far as I can tell (from the clip posted) he didn't say that "All Muslims should blow themselves up" so I'm a little troubled about that.

He shouldn't be making jokes about it but at the same time he shouldn't be misquoted so that it appears he was advocating for the elimination of Islam through suicide bombing.

 

[Zippycup]

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Islamophobic/racist, there's no difference for what we're talking about.

And as for "permissable", nobody has said he is not permitted to make the joke he did. He's not been banned and he's not being prosecuted.

Freedom of speech doesn't mean you can just say anything but nobody is allowed to dislike what you say or distance themselves from you because of what you have said.

I do agree with this.
However, I think it's safe to say that similar jokes are acceptable and treated as the joke it was intended to be while other jokes are treated with contempt and faux outrage. It all depends on the context of the joke, who is telling the joke and what category it falls under.

For the last few years we've been brainwashed into believeing what we can and can't joke about. There is no fixed category that you can't joke about but likewise there isn't a catagory that you can joke about. The subcategories is where the problems lie.

Worryingly, it just doesnt stop at "jokes" in many cases, even having a debate on a particular sudject causes fear of being tagged and can bring a sensible debate to an end.

 

[Becks_VII]

Just to be clear ..

Andrew Tate came out and said a ton of really crap stuff about TG, just because TG asked some really good questions to Tyson Fury about his up and coming fight with Chisora, which everyone knows is a complete waste of time as they have already fought twice and the second fight was a complete one sided beat down and Fury is even way better now than when that second fight happened.

Tyson Fury did not like the questions and basically had a right hissy at the end and gave TG a ton of grief.

Andrew Tate and Tyson Fury say all manner of derogatory stuff about TG and when he half heartedly makes a off comment about Tate the world goes up in arms ??

We need people like TG to ask the questions others are quite happy to ignore.

Take a look at whats gone down in the Benn v Eubank cancelled fight and nobody apart from TG and Simon Jordon are asking the right questions about the BBBoC and the morally contempt twat of a promoter about what actually transpired during the few days before that fight was cancelled.

There is a huge cover up going on there, but i suppose performance doping vrs a weight drained opponent and corruption is acceptable these days but a slight muslim remark and the walls come caving in.

The moral compose these days are way off.

Dont watch much of either of these guys at all. Seen only clip of TG from a few years ago and seemed like a good podcast, until recently all his clips are showing on TikTok and he seems like a clown who does not listen to anyone else (although I do commend him on the Fury interview)

Isnt the thing with Tate running a long while now though? Tate keeps harping on about TG making statements about the staff Tate has employed and wanting to fight him in MMA?

 

[Withnail]

I mean it's pretty obvious that he is most likely just an absolute idiot who made a terrible joke than a real Islamophobe (Someone above mentioned Lawrence McKenna, his best friend and co-host, having a Muslim wife and Child).

Any of his advertisers are well within their rights to disassociate themselves from the situation too, I wouldn't want my brand related to it either.

Actions have consequences.

I do wonder how much of the backlash is being pushed by Tate (a wholly unpleasant person that I had no idea existed until I read his thread on here) and his online fan base (cult?) who are alleging that TG said that all Muslims should blow themselves up.

"After me converting to Islam, he made a piece on of his podcast saying I'm not true to my conversion and then insulted all Muslims. Saying that Muslims blow themselves up, and that I should blow myself up and we should all blow ourselves up."

As far as I can tell (from the clip posted) he didn't say that "All Muslims should blow themselves up" so I'm a little troubled about that.

He shouldn't be making jokes about it but at the same time he shouldn't be misquoted so that it appears he was advocating for the elimination of Islam through suicide bombing.

In the piece quoted he said he would gladly blow himself up if he could take Andrew Tate with him. He's leaning heavily on a trope but he never really said anything about all Muslims.

 

[2 man midfield]

It's like a flock of people having a circlejerk who pat themselves on the back after every successful takedown, yet immediately have a void of purpose until the next target is acquired.

Not tolerating prejudice is required, and an ongoing pervasive message of unacceptance of such and instead unity is certainly called for. I also believe in second chances without being castigated to the nth degree for a misstep. Therefore cancel culture/career ruination imo often feels excessive. Yes commercialisation of it all is certainly a thing and unfortunately inopportune opportunists will always have their way.

It is a bit like a game at this point - even the tweet from the guy baiting gymshark into doing something about it was worded in a way that suggested he didn’t really give a shit, he just wants to see somebody punished.

Twitter is a really useful tool for minorities to highlight things when the rest of us might have otherwise kept on walking. But sometimes it does seem like the whole cancelling thing is weaponised by people who jump on the bandwagon looking for a scalp. Everybody knows now that PR conscious companies will cave to basically anything if there’s enough wind in the sale.

As for what that helmet True Geordie said, seems a bit of an overreaction to go mental over it. I think an apology for an ill-advised edgelord joke is probably enough to see a line drawn under it.

 

[Gazza]

Getting this thread triggered nicely now aren't I.


Principle is there.

If only everyone knew even the slightest reprehensible thought that any single individual has ever had then only an incredible minority of us would be left standing.

Food for thought.


Couldnt care less about TG.

Food for thought. 'feck outta here.

 

[Gazza]

Gymshark paid him to be a "partner" because he has a big online following. It's literally "their business" what he says to his online follwers. They didn't like it so binned him off. It's now no longer their business.

I love how this simple concept is out of reach for so many

 

[RacingClub]

He's leaning heavily on a trope but he never really said anything about all Muslims.

Yeah I'm not defending the joke etc I just think that he leant in to the stereotype because he hates Andrew Tate (not an excuse) rather than hating Muslims.

As in the he intended for Tate to be the brunt of the "joke" but by using the terrible stereotypical trope he now made other followers of Islam collateral damage because he isn't very bright.

As a consequence of this he will lose sponsorships and advertisement which is fair enough because he doesn't have a god given right to make shit jokes and not suffer any consequences.

 

[izec]

He is very naive. Dont ever talk about religion or race publicly.

 

[RacingClub]

He is naive. Dont ever talk about religion or race publicly.

When I used to watch their Livestreams (especially when it's just TG and Lawrence) they would frequently quote the office and IMO obviously spend a lot of their free time doing "edgy" David Brent style humour (I would go so far as to say that Lawrence is perpetually doing some sort of obnoxious Brent character), another big reason I stopped watching really, so there is a gold mine of shit jokes that could be clipped and distributed if this snowballs.

 

[Schmeichel=God]

The scale of the hypocrisy overall is outrageous though.

Just something I noticed reading through the twitter thread posted earlier is two people in response to the TG issue flagrantly but aggressively in context using the word fa*got in riposte.

Secondly, somewhat in the ballpark of themes related to violation via revenge porn: to out TG for his sexual messages is a largely glossed over abuse, but it's ok to do so because TGs getting flamed and put on blast.

I hear TG previously got particularly emotional about Logan's suicide jibes. The above sort of sexual hanging out to dry I presume would often lead to suicidal thoughts. As someone who has lost a sister to a suicide, extrapolating slightly, it makes me wonder where do we draw the line on how forcefully we attack someone who has made a mistake.

 

[RobertPires]

I love how this simple concept is out of reach for so many

It's not as simple as that though, is it?

The issue in these situations is that would the sponsors have acted had the vocal "perpetually offended" minority on social media not actively tagged them and threatened to boycott (and started campaigns to boycott) their products until they disassociated? I wish advertisers would be braver in these situations and realise that majority doesn't give a feck but they're not - they bail at any controversy.

The few times I've seen a TG video I've found them abysmal but it's clear he made a stupid ignorant joke here rather than having a long history of bigotry and xenophobia. Apologising and moving on should be sufficient in these situations but unfortunately it's just emblematic what's wrong modern social media & cancel culture. People using it to score petty political disagreements, stifle opposing viewpoints and destroy someone who's on the whole a good person at their worst point rather than sincerely pushing for more tolerance & social justice.

 

[Slevs]

We should all boycott and unfollow the brand we never used in the 1st place cause one of their sponsors said a stupid joke online.

 

[cyberman]

It’s blatant racism. I have no idea why there’s even an iota of defence here and it wasn’t even said in a joking manner anyway.
Serves him right, the mask slipped

 

[Scandi Red]

I'm bricking the day they can can chip my thoughts and read me making racist jokes all day

 

[GDaly95]

His content his so dire. I say that as someone who used to love him.

Every second word is 'bro', him and those who go on with him seem like they're only half in the room, mindlessly putting out intentionally stupid football opinions with the whole idea of getting clipped up and going viral later. They're like zombies who know what the formula is and go through the motions. Get unnecessarily aggressive at times for good measure.

In podcasts with him and Laurence it hardly matters what the topic is about anymore or who their guest is, it'll come back to them. 'We made it bro'.

Don't really have an opinion on the latest stuff.

 

[T00lsh3d]

He’s become boring and to an extent is a victim of his own success. Haven’t watched his stuff in years

 

[TenonTen]

Without interesting people like Buvey and Rory, Geirdie's show sucks.

The 2 main guys are so painfully boring and Adam the United fan is such an annoying crybaby with the IQ of a celery.

Rory is brilliant as the over dramatic traditional Football fan. Buvey is very entertaining as a wind up merchant.

These 2 carry the show. Without them, it's dead.

 

[phelans shorts]

My favourite part of reading this is all of the comments about the “snowflake” “woke police” etc… people pushing this, which consists of… Andrew Tate and his minions.

Anyway this guy just seems really annoying from whenever I’ve flicked through TikTok and seen clips of a few melts saying dumb shit so I’m just going to say I don’t know why anybody bothers watching the crap and go back to ignoring them

 

[Herman Toothrot]

fecking hell, some of you need to chill the feck out.

Just don't say stupid comments on a live stream.

Especially if you're relying on a brand for your income.

To go over it again.

1) Don't be racist.
2) Everything else will be fine.

 

[Rockets Redglare]

Who cares what some fat talentless tit has said online?

 

[Welsh Wonder]

It's pretty neat how the ones who are mad about everyone being 'so easily offended' or whatever are also the angriest people in the world.

Slight amendment

 

[Lay]

Who cares what some fat talentless tit has said online?

that is body shaming. Hope you don’t have any sponsors

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

Who cares what some fat talentless tit has said online?

Leave Elon Musk alone… and he’s not fat, he just has moobs.

 

[Cascarino]

Getting this thread triggered nicely now aren't I.


Principle is there.

If only everyone knew even the slightest reprehensible thought that any single individual has ever had then only an incredible minority of us would be left standing.

Food for thought.


Couldnt care less about TG.

You're by far the most "triggered" person in this thread. The comments were basically "that was dumb joke", and you've responded by making a bunch of posts along the line of "How would you feel if they chipped your brain and processed every single one of your thoughts, I bet you wouldn't last too long before being CANCELLEd heh!"

 

[Chesterlestreet]

that is body shaming. Hope you don’t have any sponsors

Not to mention lack-of-talent shaming.