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Trump speech will probably go something like this

- Afghanistan: another shitty plan, doomed to fail
- India: mention they're a good friend and important ally
- Pakistan: not doing enough, taking advantage of US...and signal further loosening of a partnership that has been slowly falling apart.
 

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Whatever he says it'll be blame obama for things that didn't work and praise himself for whatever did work. In short I expect it to be long on lies and short on truth.
It'd be strange to expect anything else.
 

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Whatever happened to the great plan to crush Isis?
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:lol:

Iraqis are doing the grunt work and ISIS are going to be crushed soon enough - which of course was always going to happen. Their plan of actually conquering land and holding on to it was never ever going to work in the long term.

But, they have successfully trained hundreds and hundreds of terrorists from other countries. With the demise of ISIS - those terrorists are coming home and things for the average person are going to get a lot worse before they get better.
 

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I was going to say the guy seriously needs to watch less news. Then I realised it must put him off doing actual work and I end up feeling torn.
 

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Supposedly, Erik Prince was informed not to attend to an arranged meeting recently. There may be some push back from JCS/Pentagon on his presence. Imagine Trump literally pushing the military out in favor of a merc force, that might also upset a few defense contractors (though these contractors would likely just cut deals with the merc contractor).
 

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iKnowNothing said:
Wasn't there talk of privatizing the security in Afghanistan? No more govt backed troops but private "troops" or something similar to that..? Hopefully it does not get that far but you never know.
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All the reporting is that McMaster shut that down and prevented the new 'East India Company' thing from being pitched to Trump and senior officials.

But, I guess we'll find out the truth soon enough
 

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MrMarcello said:
Supposedly, Erik Prince was informed not to attend to an arranged meeting recently. There may be some push back from JCS/Pentagon on his presence. Imagine Trump literally pushing the military out in favor of a merc force, that might also upset a few defense contractors (though these contractors would likely just cut deals with the merc contractor).
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I think the Prince thing may be done now that Bannon is gone.
 

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I realize this is a discussion for the US politics thread...

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If there was an election right now, Dems would lose it.
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If you look at just the Senate elections in 2018 - there are only 33 seats up for election.

Of those 23 are seats currently held by Democrats and only 8 are Republican.

These are the States the 8 Republican seats are in - Texas, Wyoming, Utah, Tennessee, Nebraska, Mississippi, Arizona and Nevada. Of those, Only Heller in Nevada is a toss up, all the others are safe Republican seats.

Whereas the Democrats have 3 toss ups - Heitkamp in North Dakota, McCaskill in Missouri, Donnelly in Indiana) and of course that complete and utter wanker Manchin in West Virginia.

That's before you even get to the House (where all the seats are up for election), but...Democrats sucking on balls for years at the local level have allowed Republicans to stack things very strongly in their favor in lots of districts.
 

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Neutral said:
I realize this is a discussion for the US politics thread...


If you look at just the Senate elections in 2018 - there are only 33 seats up for election.

Of those 23 are seats currently held by Democrats and only 8 are Republican.

These are the States the 8 Republican seats are in - Texas, Wyoming, Utah, Tennessee, Nebraska, Mississippi, Arizona and Nevada. Of those, Only Heller in Nevada is a toss up, all the others are safe Republican seats.

Whereas the Democrats have 3 toss ups - Heitkamp in North Dakota, McCaskill in Missouri, Donnelly in Indiana) and of course that complete and utter wanker Manchin in West Virginia.

That's before you even get to the House (where all the seats are up for election), but...Democrats sucking on balls for years at the local level have allowed Republicans to stack things very strongly in their favor in lots of districts.
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His point has less to do with the electoral map but more with fundraising though. The DNC has been an empty vessel for years. Dems threw $30m down the sink hole for Ossoff's run so they are hardly skint.

Next year would be a test of the age-old political wisdom about party in power losing seats in midterms, given how poorly the Democratic base performed in 10 and 14. They hold a good lead in the generic ballot poll right now but I have my doubts whether it'd be enough, since the highest propensity voters - exurban white working class - have gradually switched to GOP the last 10 years.

Winning back the governorship and state legislature in some purple states should be the priority for the 2020 redistricting, although given the way Cooper has been treated in NC, the GOP won't go down without a fight.
 

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Democrats like the left over here, are very good at complaining on the internet. Go and vote ffs.
 

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Adisa said:
Democrats like the left over here, are very good at complaining on the internet. Go and vote ffs.
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Uh we did and the Labour Party(With a Socialist leader that would give most Democrats nightmares)got one of it's best result in decades.
 

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Uh we did and the Labour Party(With a Socialist leader that would give most Democrats nightmares)got one of it's best result in decades.
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I'm still young but I remember Labour getting a 100+ majority not that long ago.
 

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Eeeek! Be afraid, be very afraid. :nervous:

Oh, and then theres's this.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...ped-push-steve-bannon-out-of-the-white-house/

Maybe it's Ivanka and Jared that need to be afraid?

And even worse for Trump, rightfully being slammed hard for simply saying "That's too bad" when told the story of 10 missing sailors from the USS John McCain. Trump obviously hates John that much that he is taking his wrath out on his navy ship and anyone who sails it too.
 
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Who thinks significant vote tampering actually happens in American elections? The more I read about the ridiculously lax security on the machines, the lack of any kind of paper trail and of course the willingness of the GOP to deliberately disenfranchise minority voters and reduce the availability of voting to Dem areas, I keep wondering 'why wouldn't they do this?'.

The people running the voting process are often hardcore Republicans, and if they wanted to tamper there wouldn't be a damn thing stopping them, yet its always treated like a wild conspiracy theory. Why? They stole an election in 2000 in Florida by illegally removing black voters from the voter rolls, so why is this any different really?
 

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Kentonio said:
Who thinks significant vote tampering actually happens in American elections? The more I read about the ridiculously lax security on the machines, the lack of any kind of paper trail and of course the willingness of the GOP to deliberately disenfranchise minority voters and reduce the availability of voting to Dem areas, I keep wondering 'why wouldn't they do this?'.

The people running the voting process are often hardcore Republicans, and if they wanted to tamper there wouldn't be a damn thing stopping them, yet its always treated like a wild conspiracy theory. Why? They stole an election in 2000 in Florida by illegally removing black voters from the voter rolls, so why is this any different really?
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Voter Suppression is at an all time high - well, since the voting rights act was passed. And, it's only going to get worse. F-ing Democrats should have spent the hundreds of millions they spent on 'campaigns' instead on helping voters all across America get registered. It is an absolute disgrace, and now we have states purging people who were registered, but haven't voted in x amount of years. It is disgusting and a genuine threat to democracy.

But, in terms of actual wide scale tampering of machines/ballot papers etc - Nah.
 

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This bunch, man...

 

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Trump is a grifter.

He always has been, always will be.

People get blinded by wealth somehow, and assume that because he has it, he is clever, a 'businessman' whatever that is these days, skilfull.

He is a moron born to rich people, who has only ever made money from conning people. A grifter, just happens to be a rich one.
 

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New Poll being conducted on Trump - highly scientific and with no obvious bias. More of this please :thumbup:



Please feel free to participate -

https://gop.com/rate-trump-job-perf...nc&utm_content=gop_surveys_button-poll-bottom
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Its a trap... once he has your info and you have not ticked one of the top two boxes your on THE LIST... your going to be detained and escorted away (by a bunch of guys with tiki torches) and forced to build the wall at gunpoint and sealing yourself on the mexican side at the end!
 

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Neutral said:
But, in terms of actual wide scale tampering of machines/ballot papers etc - Nah.
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That's what everyone says, but why? They've shown they're willing to cheat, break the law and subvert democracy at any turn. So why wouldn't they use tampering?
 

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Kentonio said:
That's what everyone says, but why? They've shown they're willing to cheat, break the law and subvert democracy at any turn. So why wouldn't they use tampering?
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Because Obama won two elections. They let a black man win not once, but twice. You'd think - that would be the perfect time to set things in motion.
 

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Nogbadthebad said:
Trump is a grifter.

He always has been, always will be.

People get blinded by wealth somehow, and assume that because he has it, he is clever, a 'businessman' whatever that is these days, skilfull.

He is a moron born to rich people, who has only ever made money from conning people. A grifter, just happens to be a rich one.
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Yup. Spot on.
 
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