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And I can't explain that, I can't understand how people could vote for someone who is the complete opposite of what they actually believe in. They must just have no conscience or firm beliefs or just be so bitter and angry that they could cut their nose off to spite their faces.
A significant portion of the voting public would vote for a cabbage if it had a D or an R next to it. For them the other side is evil incarnate.
 

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Ironic really when they were the one of the causes for Trump's rise to Power, i cannot get onboard with sympathising for the Bushes here, sure they may have some good intentions in their dotty old age but it still doesnt excuse the crap they pulled off in their Administrations.
 

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The Bushes can do one, just their luck that the tragic dorito at the white house now has made others nostalgic towards them.
 

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The Bushes can do one, just their luck that the tragic dorito at the white house now has made others nostalgic towards them.
I detested the Jnr when he was in power (too young for Snr) but I won’t criticise them for coming out against Trump, whatever their motives. They’re prominent conservative commentators and their voices still carry a fair amount of authority on that side of the fence.

If they are suggesting that Trump is a serious threat to the beloved GOP, even if only a small amount of people listen and reject Trump, it’s something.
 

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I detested the Jnr when he was in power (too young for Snr) but I won’t criticise them for coming out against Trump, whatever their motives. They’re prominent conservative commentators and their voices still carry a fair amount of authority on that side of the fence.

If they are suggesting that Trump is a serious threat to the beloved GOP, even if only a small amount of people listen and reject Trump, it’s something.
The Bushes are spot on about Trump and should be speaking out more. No sane person wouldn't love them to be in power now instead of Trump.
 

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Wow. A murderous war criminal in Bush II is a better option in charge than Trump?

There's revisionism and there's this. :houllier:
A proper politician as opposed to a demagogic reality tv show host / Russian stooge who is ruining democratic institutions - so yeah Bush would be infinitely better.
 

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A proper politician as opposed to a demagogic reality tv show host / Russian stooge who is ruining democratic institutions - so yeah Bush would be infinitely better.
There's many labels I've heard attached to George W. Bush over the years and I think 'proper politician' is a first.

That's being very, very kind to him, mate.
 

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There's many labels I've heard attached to George W. Bush over the years and I think 'proper politician' is a first.

That's being very, very kind to him, mate.
He's a very pragmatic guy who got roped in by the more reactionary factions within his party - which was partly his fault and party theirs.
 

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Wow. A murderous war criminal in Bush II is a better option in charge than Trump?

There's revisionism and there's this. :houllier:
Of course, a sane president in charge of the biggest military ever on the face of the planet, why not?
 

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Have you, even for one second, thought that's exactly the appeal of Trump to so many of those who voted for him?
You think that a high percentage of his base would like to see the Republican Party demolished? You’re deluded.
 

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You think that a high percentage of his base would like to see the Republican Party demolished? You’re deluded.
Trump's popularity soared during the Republican primary when he took on their Establishment and many questioned the party when they wouldn't back him until they had literally no option. It's fair to say that that was part of his appeal to many supporters.
 

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Don't get the dislike for Buchans comment.
On one end a guy started a war that cost tons of lives, the other a guy likely to do the same but haven't yet.
If we didnt already know how Bush did as president i could understand disagreeing.

Political issues go both ways when the other party get in, and usually one extreme follows another, so i wouldn't be surprised if the next left-president will be a socialist like Bernie as a reaction to Trump (if the dmc gets their heads out of their asses).
 
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Given how fractured the Democrats are too could we end up seeing new parties because of all of this?
 

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Given how fractured the Democrats are too could we end up seeing new parties because of all of this?
Unlikely given that each party can't afford to allow a new on its side of the fence as it would effectively give the keys to the opposing parties.
 

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A proper politician as opposed to a demagogic reality tv show host / Russian stooge who is ruining democratic institutions - so yeah Bush would be infinitely better.
He is personally responsible for among the biggest FP blunders of US history. That's the PC line. The correct line is he bears primary responsibility for a humanitarian catastrophe. He presided over the worst financial crash since the Depression, and did nothing to stop it. After the crash, he helped its architects over his own party's objections. He started the complete destruction of the 4th amendment in practice. He obtained approval for a doctrine of eternal war. He attacked the concept of due process, criminalized legal advice, and popularised and defended torture. His friends engorged themselves on the corpse of a hurricane-devastated city.

But he wasn't mean on twitter, yay.
 

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He is personally responsible for among the biggest FP blunders of US history. That's the PC line. The correct line is he bears primary responsibility for a humanitarian catastrophe. He presided over the worst financial crash since the Depression, and did nothing to stop it. After the crash, he helped its architects over his own party's objections. He started the complete destruction of the 4th amendment in practice. He obtained approval for a doctrine of eternal war. He attacked the concept of due process, criminalized legal advice, and popularised and defended torture. His friends engorged themselves on the corpse of a hurricane-devastated city.

But he wasn't mean on twitter, yay.
Trump is eroding the country from within like a previously unknown virus for which there is no cure. If life was a simulation and one wanted to insert a character who would destroy the most powerful nation state from within, Trump would be your guy. And anyone dissing Dubya should be weary of the fact that Trump will at some point start a swinging dick war with either Kim or someone else to prop up his sagging domestic numbers. The MOAB in eastern Afghanistan and the random bombing of a Syrian air base were just a shot across the bow for what is on its way.
 

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Gerald Ford was the last old school republican President. Ronald Reagan changed it not for the better.
 

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Wow. A murderous war criminal in Bush II is a better option in charge than Trump?

There's revisionism and there's this. :houllier:
Bush for all his faults and nepotism at least was a statesman with some sensibility. What would happen do you think if Trump was in charge during 9/11? No doubt Iraq and Afghanistan was a complete shitshow, but i really doubt Trump would have done any better
 

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Bush for all his faults and nepotism at least was a statesman with some sensibility. What would happen do you think if Trump was in charge during 9/11? No doubt Iraq and Afghanistan was a complete shitshow, but i really doubt Trump would have done any better
Without exaggeration, Trump would've probably used a nuke.
 

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Without exaggeration, Trump would've probably used a nuke.
ONE? You grossly underestimate the Orange one... I honestly believe he'd have used a tremendous amount of nuclear... you know, just the best ones...
 

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Imagine what Trump could do with the support and political capital that Bush got in the wake of 9/11. Even sans nuke it would be a complete disaster.
Yes, there would've been virtually no pushback.

Trump is likely to start a war at some point during his administration as a means to obfuscate from the Russia investigation.
 
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