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"I never said give teachers guns...give 20% of teachers guns."
Absolutely bonkers. America is a joke of a country.
You can guarantee that if it is implemented, there will be incidents where:How will they enforce this - fire any teachers who aren't willing to carry a gun in a classroom? What happens if nobody in the school is willing to do this?
I think more along the lines that defense = stopping people getting guns, offence = giving people more guns.What does he mean by "must be offensive, defense alone won't work?". Does he advocate teachers shooting anyone looking suspicious at school?
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Means he'd fancy Pep over Mourinho. Fecking City lover.What does he mean by "must be offensive, defense alone won't work?". Does he advocate teachers shooting anyone looking suspicious at school?
The most American thing that could possibly happen would be a grieving parent suing one of the armed teachers because he/she weren't capable of protecting their kid well enough.You can guarantee that if it is implemented, there will be incidents where:
An unstable teacher threatens an unruly child with the gun.
A shooting happens, multiple children are killed and allegations are made the one of the kids that was shot dead by a teacher was innocent and a case of mistaken identity or misreading of the situation.
A shooting happens, the shooter kills X number of kids and X number of kids were killed or injured by a Teacher without the proficient skill for the situation.
A teacher is careless and a student gains access to their gun and a tragedy happens.
You can also guarantee that in the aftermath of one of these incidents, the NRA and their disciples will be screaming on twitter calling it a "false flag" and accusing the teacher of being a plant.
The Republican response to the indecent, will be to blame the individual actions of the teacher, saying they are to blame. Completely ignoring the point that a teacher should never have had that responsibility forced onto them.
Sad to say you can see it happening. Imagine being a teacher (ok so you may have had a bit of training) in a situation with a shooter in the school trying to actively find the guy in the midst of chaos - corridors and rooms full of screaming and terrified children - trying to find what is likely to be another child holding a gun - finding that person and then having to engage them in a fire fight all whilst trying not to kill the wrong person. A teacher ffs.The most American thing that could possibly happen would be a grieving parent suing one of the armed teachers because he/she weren't capable of protecting their kid well enough.
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Not to mention the fact you're most likely up against a complete headcase who's not going to be nearly as terrified as yourself in that situation.Sad to say you can see it happening. Imagine being a teacher (ok so you may have had a bit of training) in a situation with a shooter in the school trying to actively find the guy in the midst of chaos - corridors and rooms full of screaming and terrified children - trying to find what is likely to be another child holding a gun - finding that person and then having to engage them in a fire fight all whilst trying not to kill the wrong person. A teacher ffs.
Yep those are all going to be likely things we see if this happens. Not to mention, I just can't imagine how uncomfortable I'd be as a student knowing my teachers are armed.You can guarantee that if it is implemented, there will be incidents where:
An unstable teacher threatens an unruly child with the gun.
A shooting happens, multiple children are killed and allegations are made the one of the kids that was shot dead by a teacher was innocent and a case of mistaken identity or misreading of the situation.
A shooting happens, the shooter kills X number of kids and X number of kids were killed or injured by a Teacher without the proficient skill for the situation.
A teacher is careless and a student gains access to their gun and a tragedy happens.
You can also guarantee that in the aftermath of one of these incidents, the NRA and their disciples will be screaming on twitter calling it a "false flag" and accusing the teacher of being a plant.
The Republican response to the indecent, will be to blame the individual actions of the teacher, saying they are to blame. Completely ignoring the point that a teacher should never have had that responsibility forced onto them.
I've noticed you're from the North. I'm sure you'll agree that years ago it seemed like there was no solution to the Troubles but look at us now. Even if it's just small steps in the right direction surely adequate forms of gun control can be achieved. I don't expect overnight results but there has to be a path to it.When I heard that kids in American have to go through drills to know what to do if a shooter enters their school it really made me sad. Their entire culture is built around fear and paranoia. What a fecked up place it is. Nice to visit but you couldn't pay me to live there.
It's Ok, they are very weapons talented.What could go wrong in a situation where you have armed teachers trying to locate a young shooter, in a school full of kids running around and screaming?
I'll be honest, I laughed when I read at first but it really is tragic."Very weapons talented teachers"
Maybe they should concentrate on English and grammar instead. Feck my life. He can't even talk properly. Thick as pigshit, he makes me sick.
Exactly. Plus, the next shooter will just be sure to kill the armed teacher first... Aaand millions of parents will insist their kids' teacher is armed which will force the rest to follow.You can guarantee that if it is implemented, there will be incidents where:
An unstable teacher threatens an unruly child with the gun.
A shooting happens, multiple children are killed and allegations are made the one of the kids that was shot dead by a teacher was innocent and a case of mistaken identity or misreading of the situation.
A shooting happens, the shooter kills X number of kids and X number of kids were killed or injured by a Teacher without the proficient skill for the situation.
A teacher is careless and a student gains access to their gun and a tragedy happens.
You can also guarantee that in the aftermath of one of these incidents, the NRA and their disciples will be screaming on twitter calling it a "false flag" and accusing the teacher of being a plant.
The Republican response to the indecent, will be to blame the individual actions of the teacher, saying they are to blame. Completely ignoring the point that a teacher should never have had that responsibility forced onto them.
If it's a Republican they'll probably leave the lights on just to annoy those who believe in climate change.Will the last person alive in America please turn off the lights when you leave?
If it's a Republican they'll probably leave the lights on just to annoy those who believe in climate change.
Hire NRA members to teach? What could go wrong?!How will they enforce this - fire any teachers who aren't willing to carry a gun in a classroom? What happens if nobody in the school is willing to do this?
#BotsAndPrayers to those affected, as someone said on Reddit
But if we did that then how are people going to go out and buy more guns?!Maybe they should just ban schools all together and make homeschooling mandatory. Or better yet, ban leaving your house all together. That will put an end to mass shootings I'm sure.
Hey mate - yeah I know what you are getting at and I agree. The whole situation is just so bloody sad - those poor kids - makes me really angry to think that some people are happy to put up with kids getting slaughtered in their own schools rather than accept even minor gun control reform.I've noticed you're from the North. I'm sure you'll agree that years ago it seemed like there was no solution to the Troubles but look at us now. Even if it's just small steps in the right direction surely adequate forms of gun control can be achieved. I don't expect overnight results but there has to be a path to it.
The saddest thing from my viewpoint is that news of the shooting was 'bleh' to me. I have learned to accept that it is simply a part of life in America now. I hope these students continue to lobby and cause noise and refuse to allow their school become another statistic. Even if it only achieves the slightest change it'll be an achievement.