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Trump has been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize. :lol:
Nominated by Christian Tybring-Gjedde, a Conservative Norwegian who wants small government, once compared the hijab to Klu Klux Klan robes and wants Norway to leave the EU. So basically a Norwegian version of Trump.
 

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Trump has been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize. :lol:
Probably for brokering the Israel - UAE peace deal. Which is a massive achievement and biggest step towards peace in that region since the Rabin assassination in 1995. Of course, since it's the orange man that doesn't count for much. Obama got the prize in 2009 for basically running a slick campaign full of unkept promises. He went on to be another wartime president (Libya, Syria, etc).
 

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Nominated by Christian Tybring-Gjedde, a Conservative Norwegian who wants small government, once compared the hijab to Klu Klux Klan robes and wants Norway to leave the EU. So basically a Norwegian version of Trump.
Norway isn't in the EU, but okay.
 

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Probably for brokering the Israel - UAE peace deal. Which is a massive achievement and biggest step towards peace in that region since the Rabin assassination in 1995. Of course, since it's the orange man that doesn't count for much.
It's interesting how Trump's foreign policy, and recent utterances regarding American military leaders for example, has upset the traditional let-right paradigm on such matters.

Obama got the prize in 2009 for basically running a slick campaign full of unkept promises. He went on to be another wartime president (Libya, Syria, etc).
Rhetoric is a powerful thing.

I bet they wish they could take that one back.
 
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Trump has been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize. :lol:
IIRC, anyone can be nominated by anyone. If the person nominating goes through the process, voila, someone can say that they’re a nominee. There’s no major hurdle to cross.
 

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The Novel Peace Price is done for. They can't even strip someone who is participating in ethnic cleansing.
 

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Nominated by Christian Tybring-Gjedde, a Conservative Norwegian who wants small government, once compared the hijab to Klu Klux Klan robes and wants Norway to leave the EU. So basically a Norwegian version of Trump.
Worst thing is he's getting increasingly more normal compared to a lot of other voices.

Tangentially related, mentioning it just because it's funny. There's a trial ongoing right now. Two years ago there was a lot of drama because of an, at least originally, rather obscure theater production that no one saw. In it they had some video of prominent politicians's homes, among others the then minister of justice Tor Mikkel Wara from Fremskrittspartiet (the Progress Party), same party as Gjedde. The right were very unhappy with this.

In the aftermath the Wara household started getting threats. They received some letters, their car was set on fire, their home was spray painted etc. Tybring-Gjedde and his wife, also a politician from the same political party, also received a threatening letter. During this things got kinda crazy. The Oslo police even started a case against the artists and wanted to search their homes and offices (the case was later ordered dropped because what the feck), Prime Minister Erna Solberg from Høyre (the Conservative Party) criticized the artists using pretty strong words and the right generally went crazy.

The reason there's a trial ongoing right now is because Wara's wife fabricated the whole thing.

Norway isn't in the EU, but okay.
He wants Norway to leave EFTA. That is, he hasn't really been consistent here.
 

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It's interesting how Trump's foreign policy, and recent utterances regarding American military leaders for example, has upset the traditional let-right paradigm on such matters.



Rhetoric is a powerful thing.

I bet they wish they could take that one back.
Drone strikes have gone up exponentially under him (with even less transparency so who knows the real figure) and military spending has increased each year.

He uses rhetoric to establish anti-war credentials but his words don't match the outcome.

No one gives Bill Clinton credit for getting Palestinians and Israeli officials together for a "framework for peace" because it did not succeed.
 

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Their faces are darker because of shadows. Look at all the white people with hats, it's the same with them.
Yeah, if you look at the person in the bottom left, it's the same: the shadow of her cap exactly covers her face and neck. This must've been around mid-day.
 

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Worst thing is he's getting increasingly more normal compared to a lot of other voices.

Tangentially related, mentioning it just because it's funny. There's a trial ongoing right now. Two years ago there was a lot of drama because of an, at least originally, rather obscure theater production that no one saw. In it they had some video of prominent politicians's homes, among others the then minister of justice Tor Mikkel Wara from Fremskrittspartiet (the Progress Party), same party as Gjedde. The right were very unhappy with this.

In the aftermath the Wara household started getting threats. They received some letters, their car was set on fire, their home was spray painted etc. Tybring-Gjedde and his wife, also a politician from the same political party, also received a threatening letter. During this things got kinda crazy. The Oslo police even started a case against the artists and wanted to search their homes and offices (the case was later ordered dropped because what the feck), Prime Minister Erna Solberg from Høyre (the Conservative Party) criticized the artists using pretty strong words and the right generally went crazy.

The reason there's a trial ongoing right now is because Wara's wife fabricated the whole thing.



He wants Norway to leave EFTA. That is, he hasn't really been consistent here.
Wow! Thanks for the insight. That's unbelievably shady.
 

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Drone strikes have gone up exponentially under him (with even less transparency so who knows the real figure) and military spending has increased each year.

He uses rhetoric to establish anti-war credentials but his words don't match the outcome.
Foreign policy pronouncements I should say.

No one gives Bill Clinton credit for getting Palestinians and Israeli officials together for a "framework for peace" because it did not succeed.
Poor old Bill.

Even Henry Kissinger got one!
 
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Wow! Thanks for the insight. That's unbelievably shady.
And just to be clear, she didn't make the events up, she actually did the things herself. She sent the threatening letters (which she partially burnt and peed on, for added effect), she set fire to her own car and she tagged down her own home. She also inserted really weird spelling mistakes, presumably to make it look like immigrants did it.

Of all the five Ministers of Justice from the Progress Party that have had to leave their post this current government for various reasons (the Progress Party has since left the government totally, but that's another story), Wara is the funniest one.
 

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Drone strikes have gone up exponentially under him (with even less transparency so who knows the real figure) and military spending has increased each year.

He uses rhetoric to establish anti-war credentials but his words don't match the outcome.

No one gives Bill Clinton credit for getting Palestinians and Israeli officials together for a "framework for peace" because it did not succeed.
he shoots his mouth off and breaks taboos (starting with his attack on mccain in the primary), but it's all shallow. he has never followed through on any of it, he vetoed bernie's successful bill that would ban the same companies he is criticising from making their money by destroying yemen.

to his credit, he did not enter iran or seriously enter venezuela or start a big war anywhere (ukraine was talked about in 2016). and the coup in bolivia seemed to happen from the OAS rather than directly from the white house, not 100% sure how involved he is.
on the other side, as you said about drones.
 

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If this is true and there is a recording, it should be a big deal and would end any other presidency.
 

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If this is true and there is a recording, it should be a big deal and would end any other presidency.
Just ready the CNN quick synopsis on the book and damn. I mean, it won't do anything regarding the election because his followers are cult members, but...just wow.

The best part is Trump is already claiming the book is FAKE but Woodward records everything, including all his interviews with Trump.

None of this will actually matter, but it does highlight how messed up as a country we are when you can hear the President say these things and know his base doesn't give even a tiny shit.

Edit: Here's the article. It has some of the interview audio. https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/09/politics/bob-woodward-rage-book-trump-coronavirus/index.html
 

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Trump is with us now until he dies. If he loses he is going to continue attacks on Biden to get himself or his children ready for a run in 2024.
If he loses, he’s going to be spending the rest of his life fighting legal action.I genuinely think there is a good chance the Republicans will be happy to see him jailed too as he will make the perfect martyr for them and be much more useful to them if he is completely censured.


I genuinely don’t believe he is going to lose at the moment and I am very close to laying a large bet on him being re-elected. I think the Republicans are going to go for an all out assault on this election because they’ve just proven that if you own the senate you are completely free of consequence.
 

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If he loses, he’s going to be spending the rest of his life fighting legal action.I genuinely think there is a good chance the Republicans will be happy to see him jailed too as he will make the perfect martyr for them and be much more useful to them if he is completely censured.


I genuinely don’t believe he is going to lose at the moment and I am very close to laying a large bet on him being re-elected. I think the Republicans are going to go for an all out assault on this election because they’ve just proven that if you own the senate you are completely free of consequence.
Maybe? Most of the R's in the Senate have done a "plausible" job of not going the full Gaetz with Trump. Even Graham and Cruz have manufactured points of "disagreement" with him. So basically, if they see the ship is sinking in November I think they are going to jump into their lifeboats and get the hell out. Now the Gaetz's and Gym Jordans of the world, those ass holes are going to ride the boat to the ocean floor.
 

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Yep, he didn't want to create a panic or a disorganized response like happened in every other country that took the science seriously and took action. :rolleyes:
At a minimum, it should put to bed any arguments that not doing something to prevent a panic was far worse than doing something and potentially causing a temporary panic that quickly subsided after the lockdown.
 
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