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I’d rather see the data on that from a legit source.Every vaccine is a good option, even the Chinese ones as far as reducing serious illness is concerned assuming full dosage.
I’d rather see the data on that from a legit source.Every vaccine is a good option, even the Chinese ones as far as reducing serious illness is concerned assuming full dosage.
Trial data looks better than AZ. But cross trial comparisons can me misleading. Plus if you live in India the best vaccine for you, by far, is the first one you can get in your arm.Is there any country administering Sputnik V?
India has that available from next month.. wondering if that's a good option compared to AstraZeneca
Good news2nd dose taken today.
I think Hungary got some, a friend of mine over there are saying her parents refuse to take that or the Chinese oneIs there any country administering Sputnik V?
India has that available from next month.. wondering if that's a good option compared to AstraZeneca
Some bad news too, found out from bloodsamples that I am diabetic.Good news
You must have had a million million blood samples though Ody, strange it's not been detected before. Good luck with it anyway.Some bad news too, found out from bloodsamples that I am diabetic.
Gonna go check that out on 20-30 minutes.
So far today only a sore arm again, so it seems like I will be fine from the vaccine.
Lucky you got the jab(s) then. Covid is not friendly to diabetics as one of the comorbodities.Some bad news too, found out from bloodsamples that I am diabetic.
Gonna go check that out on 20-30 minutes.
So far today only a sore arm again, so it seems like I will be fine from the vaccine.
Most likely has come due to being overweight. My mother, grandmother and great grandmother had type 2, so I'm hoping for just a change in diet and a pill or two more. I won't notice that much.You must have had a million million blood samples though Ody, strange it's not been detected before. Good luck with it anyway.
Covaxin if you have the choice is the one to go for. I chose covidshield(AZ) over it due to prejudice against Indian developed products and had a mild fever for a couple of days after the vaccination. Covaxin guys suffered no reaction and it's said to be as affective as covidshield.I’d rather see the data on that from a legit source.
Sputnik has some decent evidence on its side. It just doesn't yet have the kind of high volume (millions of doses - with published adverse reaction data) evidence that some of the others have.I think Hungary got some, a friend of mine over there are saying her parents refuse to take that or the Chinese one
Good luck with that. Just remember if it’s type2 you can affect it in a positive way tooSome bad news too, found out from bloodsamples that I am diabetic.
Gonna go check that out in 20-30 minutes.
So far today only a sore arm again, so it seems like I will be fine from the vaccine.
Yeah regarding Sputnik I’d want to see the evidenceSputnik has some decent evidence on its side. It just doesn't yet have the kind of high volume (millions of doses - with published adverse reaction data) evidence that some of the others have.
The Chinese ones, I'm more suspicious of - though there are multiple vaccines and multiple manufacturers. In general with those it comes down to lack of solid published trials evidence and some wildly disparate trial methodologies and results where they have been revealed. The inactivated virus ones in particular seem to have low efficacy, and the inactivation process doesn't have published results.
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There are increasingly credible rumours that Sputnik might get EMA approval in future. More and more individual countries are talking about ordering it.Sputnik has some decent evidence on its side. It just doesn't yet have the kind of high volume (millions of doses - with published adverse reaction data) evidence that some of the others have.
The Chinese ones, I'm more suspicious of - though there are multiple vaccines and multiple manufacturers. In general with those it comes down to lack of solid published trials evidence and some wildly disparate trial methodologies and results where they have been revealed. The inactivated virus ones in particular seem to have low efficacy, and the inactivation process doesn't have published results.
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J&J data published in The Lancet. Looks good.
In South Africa, no hospitalizations of participants with an onset of Covid-19 at least 28 days after administration occurred in the vaccine group, as compared with 6 hospitalizations in the placebo group. All five Covid-19–related deaths in the trial occurred in the placebo group in South Africa.
That's the thinking, we are only rolling out Pfizer and J&J here in SA.Pfizer, 24 hours later, aside from annoying arm ache so I couldn't sleep on that side, all good for now.
I read that Pfizer, even though not as efficient, does a pretty good job against the newest SA strain?
Definitions of mild/moderate/severe are explained in page 19 of the appendix.Overall positive.
Does anyone know the difference between the severity categories: mild vs. moderate vs. severe? When you read the paper, hospitalisation and death is not considered severe (i.e. worse), whereas I thought that's what severe would represent. Thought this was some good info:
Thanks. Severe looks bad. I'd imagine most of the cases relate to oxygen saturation below 93% or fast heart rate (both of which could be managed at home), given the others would likely result in hospitalisation, and there weren't any cases of this > 28 days.Definitions of mild/moderate/severe are explained in page 19 of the appendix.
Moderate illness seems to be actually fairly mild and mild very close to asymptomatic. Severe/critical cases are sick as feck though.
Yeah, that was what I read the other day.Overall positive.
Does anyone know the difference between the severity categories: mild vs. moderate vs. severe? When you read the paper, hospitalisation and death is not considered severe (i.e. worse), whereas I thought that's what severe would represent. Thought this was some good info:
That's the thinking, we are only rolling out Pfizer and J&J here in SA.
Either would be fine.What's the story with medicine for side effects after the Pfizer vaccine? Have read two sources so far and naturally enough, one said paracetamol and not ibuprofen, while the other said ibuprofen but not paracetamol.
I just wanna feel sorry for myself for a few days, and taking medicine helps add to that feeling. I'd be in calpol if I could get it here.Either would be fine.
Although my preferred prescription for a transient fever/sore arm would usually be the following.
I find a high fever weirdly enjoyable. Curl up in bed with Netflix on the iPad and relish the sickness!I just wanna feel sorry for myself for a few days, and taking medicine helps add to that feeling. I'd be in calpol if I could get it here.
To be fair I've been very lucky and have never had more than some sniffles, but the way I react to a hangover makes me dread how bad I'll take a fever or proper flu symptoms.I find a high fever weirdly enjoyable. Curl up in bed with Netflix on the iPad and relish the sickness!
Right...I find a high fever weirdly enjoyable. Curl up in bed with Netflix on the iPad and relish the sickness!
As someone who has no idea how to interpret these numbers, is 85% against severe/critical good? Most covid cases arent severe/critical..Tweet
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J&J data published in The Lancet. Looks good.
It means there’s an 85% reduction in severe/critical cases when you compare the number in the study arm that got vaccinated vs the placebo arm.As someone who has no idea how to interpret these numbers, is 85% against severe/critical good? Most covid cases arent severe/critical..
Or does it mean the vaccine significantly reduces the change of a person getting infected.. and of that tiny portion, it guards against severe cases at that rate (85%) ..
It's probably easier to visualise from the raw numbers:As someone who has no idea how to interpret these numbers, is 85% against severe/critical good? Most covid cases arent severe/critical..
Or does it mean the vaccine significantly reduces the change of a person getting infected.. and of that tiny portion, it guards against severe cases at that rate (85%) ..
It means there’s an 85% reduction in severe/critical cases when you compare the number in the study arm that got vaccinated vs the placebo arm.
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Thanks a lot..It's probably easier to visualise from the raw numbers:
They had 432 moderate or severe cases in the placebo group v 193 in the vaccinated.
They had 78 severe/critical cases in the placebo group v 21 uncaccinated.
They had deaths in the placebo group and none in the vaccinated.
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I find a high fever weirdly enjoyable. Curl up in bed with Netflix on the iPad and relish the sickness!
Most pleasing thing about that table is very similar results to the US in South Africa and Brazil.Thanks a lot..
looked at the table from the article ... should have done it earlier..
Tough one. We seem to have basically wiped out flu for the moment, which reduces your options. Maybe a good dose of food poisoning? A feed of rotten mussels should do it.Can you recommend an illness that will see me incapacitated for a week or more, sweating profusely, no appetite but no long-lasting effects? I'd like a little kick-start on weight-loss but don't have the discipline to exercise and diet. Covid gets results but I'm worried about long covid and lung damage.
Tough one. We seem to have basically wiped out flu for the moment, which reduces your options. Maybe a good dose of food poisoning? A feed of rotten mussels should do it.
You might want to consider summer vomiting disease. Symptoms not great but a real kick start to any diet.I don't fancy stomach cramps and three days of shits. Like you said, a fever is quite doable and a bit of chicken soup is all you need.
The good old Norovirus should do itYou might want to consider summer vomiting disease. Symptoms not great but a real kick start to any diet.
methamphetamines should do as wellCan you recommend an illness that will see me incapacitated for a week or more, sweating profusely, no appetite but no long-lasting effects? I'd like a little kick-start on weight-loss but don't have the discipline to exercise and diet. Covid gets results but I'm worried about long covid and lung damage.
Don't think they had any data for that.. 1/3 cases for the 2 groups..Most pleasing thing about that table is very similar results to the US in South Africa and Brazil.
I need to read the whole article. Did they present results for mild cases?
A preliminary analysis indicated that Ad26.COV2.S provided at least 66% protection against serologically confirmed asymptomatic infection with SARS-CoV-2.
Serbia having a option to choose Sputnik V, can share info i got when i was enlisting my parents, at the time got told that due their age 65+ and health issues they have it wasnt recommended for them to take it, few weeks after i heard that recommendation changed a bit for others interested in it.Is there any country administering Sputnik V?
India has that available from next month.. wondering if that's a good option compared to AstraZeneca