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I don't think that would of worked. The Rock is much more over than Shane, and even he couldn't help Roman get over.

The obvious thing would of been Ambrose to win the triple threat, Reigns to turn heel and go after The Undertaker, not too sure where that leaves Brock though.
Not really using Shane to get him over. More getting rid of the hated/stale Authority angle will help him get over.
 

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I don't think that would of worked. The Rock is much more over than Shane, and even he couldn't help Roman get over.

The obvious thing would of been Ambrose to win the triple threat, Reigns to turn heel and go after The Undertaker, not too sure where that leaves Brock though.
Roman was getting cheered two months ago when he fighting the authority so there's no reason that he couldn't get cheered again with the right booking. The biggest reason that he's getting booed is that he's being forced upon the fans with superman booking, but having him lose cleanly at the previous PPV to a big fan favourite would actually have helped to alleviate some of that resentment from the fans. I think Hal's idea would have worked tbh.
 

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Do you know what will be fun to see.

Dean Ambrose, survived his Royal Rumble match, he'll probably get beat to oblivion by Lesnar at Wrestlemania and kick out numerous F5's in the process, but he still gets beat by one Roman Reigns spear.
 

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Don't think Cena (or anyone else) fighting on behalf of Shane would make sense. The whole point was to stack the odds against Shane by making him wrestle The Undertaker, which should mean a certain loss in a clean match. I'm sure there'll be some twists and turns before the actual match, but even a no DQ match wouldn't make much sense, let alone allowing Shane to pick a wrestler to represent him.

Hopefully they won't drop the ball by making unrealistic changes. After all, RAW is on the line, so Vince agreeing to make things easier for Shane wouldn't make any sense.
 

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Don't think Cena (or anyone else) fighting on behalf of Shane would make sense. The whole point was to stack the odds against Shane by making him wrestle The Undertaker, which should mean a certain loss in a clean match. I'm sure there'll be some twists and turns before the actual match, but even a no DQ match wouldn't make much sense, let alone allowing Shane to pick a wrestler to represent him.

Hopefully they won't drop the ball by making unrealistic changes. After all, RAW is on the line, so Vince agreeing to make things easier for Shane wouldn't make any sense.
Could have Cena say something alone the lines of he thinks RAW would be better without Vince and in the hands of Shane.

Whats strange is that Taker is currently on the heel side of the dynamic.
 

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They missed a trick to get Roman cheered at Wrestlemania, have him lose at Fastlane, then next week offer to fight instead of Shane for the control of Monday Night Raw, due to Vince/Steph/Triple H screwing him over. Simples.

As for Shane vs Taker... I think if Cena is ready in time, the above will happen last minute. Cena fights Taker on behalf of Shane.
I was thinking they could still do it. Imagine if they involve all the McMahons in this scenario.

Since its Raw on the line and HHH and Steph clearly dont want to lose control, have a three pronged fight where:
Steph faces somebody (would be great if it was Ronda but finally shes "gets hers" )
Shane faces Taker (that way Shane can lose if need be)
and then the final decider is HHH vs Reigns. I think hes getting booed either way, but Reigns taking out Authority from Raw may get him more of a mixed reaction than just plain out boos.
 

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I don't think that would of worked. The Rock is much more over than Shane, and even he couldn't help Roman get over.

The obvious thing would of been Ambrose to win the triple threat, Reigns to turn heel and go after The Undertaker, not too sure where that leaves Brock though.
Nobody can put over a babyface Roman at this stage and it's obvious to everyone (except Creative/Vince). The crowd through loves Reigns whenever he shows a mean streak. Sadly that is ignored.

There were a lot of obvious ways that were ignored, starting with Ambrose winning the Rumble.
 

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They had Reigns over though, they just fecked it up. The Rumble was a clusterfeck and was a bit of a joke really, then you had Fastlane which was one of the worst PPV's I can remember seeing and there have been some stinkers over the last couple of years. The main event of FL was a complete shambles, it was also one of the shortest main events they have had for years AND it finished 10 minutes early too. It could have been such a great fight with all 3 of them more than capable of competing for much longer, and if you look at all 3 of them, they are all capable of bringing the house down yet they completely fecked it up. It really was shite. Such a shame.

The only thing I can see as a positive is that maybe, just maybe if Reigns wins at WM that will be the end of The Authority and we can get back to some decent storylines and not just rely on people getting continually fecked over by them and we can actually have some decent Champions and some proper matches. They have used the same shite with Daniel Bryan and Roman Reigns and it's just not funny anymore.
 

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Survivor Series main event was worse tbh given it was the finish to a title tournament. Seemed like it lasted 5 minutes.

They look like they are sabotaging Reigns so that HHH can be the face and champion going into the "biggest WM". So bizarre.
 

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To the Shane Taker match for some reason i am more thinking Sting causes the loss for Taker, setting up a match between them later on if he is cleared to wrestle again. It did go quiet on what his future was after the Rollins match and injury so who knows.
 

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It's almost like, n desperation they all went, "feck it, lets pop him up against HHH and his shovel, everyone hates HHH burying talent, that has to get him onside."

Except everyone was all, "eh, who gives a shit, stop keeping Ambrose down man......"

Would be class if the crowd "Bryan'd" the main even with Ambrose chants.
 

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Tbf, that's based on the assumption it was the planned finish.
Well the planned finish was obviously Wyatt interference. But they changed it to Lesnar vs Ambrose at WM, had Ambrose drop the IC title... because Lesnar IC champ lolwot? and gave Ambrose quite a build leading up to the Rumble.

Unless that's not what you meant, but i didn't see any injuries, and it looked like a planned ending sequence and not a botch...

Who knows who Wyatt is going to face at Wrestlemania, but they've destroyed him so much i wouldn't even care if just shoved in the battle royal.

In addition to the three matches we already got.

My predications we're also going to get The New Day vs League of Nations (urgh) and possible KO, AJ, Y2J triple threat.
 

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Who knows who Wyatt is going to face at Wrestlemania, but they've destroyed him so much i wouldn't even care if just shoved in the battle royal.
Wouldnt mind him winning AtG battle royal tbh.
 

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They should have the Wyatt family turn on bray, beat him so bad that he isn't on tv for 2-3 months then have him start from the bottom and win back the position of the family head.

Once he is there have the wyatts destroy everyone and be way more vicious.

And then have him lose on the next ppv.
 

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Well the planned finish was obviously Wyatt interference. But they changed it to Lesnar vs Ambrose at WM, had Ambrose drop the IC title... because Lesnar IC champ lolwot? and gave Ambrose quite a build leading up to the Rumble.

Unless that's not what you meant, but i didn't see any injuries, and it looked like a planned ending sequence and not a botch...

Who knows who Wyatt is going to face at Wrestlemania, but they've destroyed him so much i wouldn't even care if just shoved in the battle royal.

In addition to the three matches we already got.

My predications we're also going to get The New Day vs League of Nations (urgh) and possible KO, AJ, Y2J triple threat.
re: the bolded, it can very easily be both a planned sequence and rushed, it just means that the section before it building is gone. It's pretty interesting that Roman has been removed from every show advert for the foreseeable future with a 'broken nose' (despite clearly being handed a blood capsule by Byron), had minimal physical exertion on Raw and for the ending of the match.

I think you're largely right on those other two matches at this point.
 

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I was thinking they could still do it. Imagine if they involve all the McMahons in this scenario.

Since its Raw on the line and HHH and Steph clearly dont want to lose control, have a three pronged fight where:
Steph faces somebody (would be great if it was Ronda but finally shes "gets hers" )
Shane faces Taker (that way Shane can lose if need be)
and then the final decider is HHH vs Reigns. I think hes getting booed either way, but Reigns taking out Authority from Raw may get him more of a mixed reaction than just plain out boos.
So perfect that it'll never cross their minds.
 

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^My worry is that it will not take them long to go the easy route and turn Shane heel and we have a heel McMahon leading Raw again. bleh.

What's this on brand split between RAW and SD? They get separate rosters with current talent split equally?
Its a theory ive read (I think Taz was one of the first who mentioned it as a guess). I liked the initial thought behind the draft and brand split, but they sabotaged SD as it was getting better than Raw. Instead of making Raw stronger, they destroyed SD and Raw remained at the same level despite taking SDs talent.
 

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Man, Gable is incredible. The only downside is the repetitive nature of their matches. Gable shows off, gets heat on him, makes the hot tag , straps come off and they win.

Next week should be good with the announced match between Neville and Balor.
 

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The 2nd episode of the E&C show has been quite good. "Facial hair is for weak people... Nice beard!"
I haven't enjoyed the Edge and Christian show so far, I'm disappointed as I was really looking forward to it. Too many forced jokes IMO, I do like the bits where they watch old clips though.
 

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There's this rumour that HHH/Steph will move over as GM to SmackDown. After success of NXT, it's seen as a promotion to HHH to have complete control of the SD franchise, while Shane manages RAW with Vince in the background.

Not quite sure how that works, HHH had full control of the NXT roster which he'll not have at SD. And the storylines will have to be coordinated too. mmmm!
I saw on wrestling news site Ticketmaster were advertising WWE RAW in May as Monday Night Raw vs WWE. So who knows what will happen but its intriguing.
 

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Undertaker is at Raw in a few days. I'd expect him to add a stipulation of his own, so him winning makes a bit more sense and doesn't just end the Shane/Vince story dead in its tracks
 

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Undertaker is at Raw in a few days. I'd expect him to add a stipulation of his own, so him winning makes a bit more sense and doesn't just end the Shane/Vince story dead in its tracks
Yeah, I agree. IT makes almost no sense for him to just accept this match. He's not exactly an authority-like figure.

Looks like they are pretty intent on making Y2AJ work. Teamed with Mark Henry on Smackdown and got a pin on the New Day. Jericho and Styles had a pretty good backstage promo beforehand, seems like they are getting more comfortable with a talking AJ.
 

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Yeah, I agree. IT makes almost no sense for him to just accept this match. He's not exactly an authority-like figure.

Looks like they are pretty intent on making Y2AJ work. Teamed with Mark Henry on Smackdown and got a pin on the New Day. Jericho and Styles had a pretty good backstage promo beforehand, seems like they are getting more comfortable with a talking AJ.
Have them win the tag belts against New Day due to LoN interference next week, sets up New Day vs LoN nicely with motivation, then have Y2AJ vs Usos vs Dudleys for the titles?
 

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I'm only an occasional WWE watcher these days but normally get quite interested by the big events like Wrestlemania and the Rumble. Saying that I'm massively underwhelmed by the WM main events at the moment.

HHH vs Reigns....Ok I get it. They are trying to rehash the Vince McMahon vs Stone Cold and/or Rock where the guy in power is trying to keep the top face down. The problem is HHH isn't defending the title, has no reason to win it in the first place and the result of this match is so predictable. What makes matters worse is no one wants the face to win.

Shane vs Undertaker HIAC.... I like Shane and he as put on some good matches but he hasn't wrestled in years AND Undertaker is past it in my opinion. It's just sad to watch him wrestle these days as he just doesn't carry the aura he used to

Lesnar vs Ambrose in a street fight....I don't buy Ambrose winning this at all. The size thing is one issue as Ambrose looks like a child next to Brock...but also how they have booked him. Every time they have met face to face Brock has destroyed him unless Ambrose low blows him. I know they are going to use weapons to even the odds but its just going to be a match of suplexes and chairshots. I can't suspend my disbelief for this match as Ambrose and Reigns got absolutely manhandled by Strowman...the same guy Lesnar manhandled (well basically the Wyatt family) at the rumble.

Am I missing something here? Can anyone help me feel more positive over Wrestlemania?
 

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Don't know why, but I have a feeling Kane is going to cost Undertaker the match at Wrestlemania to set up their retirement match next year. Wouldn't be Kane's first hell in a cell interruption either.