The thing with Wan-Bissaka is he is excellent one-on-one, so he is going to have top stats, but his all-round game is still underwhelming. He is not yet the kind of fullback a top club should be paying a record fee for. I don't know how many times we have to pay top money for limited and technically unsophisticated players before we realize that we are being left behind.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
You've posted Ashley Young v barca by mistake mate
All the PSG fans want to get rid of him, because he is awful in their eyes.. I can't stand how some of you think he could be good addition here.
Thats such a big word, remember when we had Evra and they had Hibbert?
A young player for stupid amount of money or Continuing United's tradition of playing Wingers at FB.
Feel like we’re back a square one reading this thread now, both will probably turn out shite
If you don't want to block Dalot and Laird, don't buy Meunier.
Just the right age is 4 years younger: 22, 23, 24. Old enough to have enough experience and stay with the club for 10 years.
I can't see a need for experienced players unless they lead on the pitch and dressing room.
I have nothing against Meunier, but we have 3 right-sided fullbacks (even after 1 leaves this summer!) I need to see Darmian or Young leave before I'm happy buying another!
If he were a left-footed, left fullback I'd agree with everything his fans wrote.
Still trying to figure out why people want him. I'm happy developing Dalot, keeping Young for backup (on left and right), and selling Darmian.
Nothing supports the myth Meunier can defend. Not statistics not eyes
Nothing. What's crazy is people imagining he'd be an asset for us.....
There are still superior players we can get than cant defend Meunier.
I'd rather we target bringing back Rafael back from Lyon. Than buying Meunier
I don’t know what to think now. TM was hyped on here, I guess due in part to being a fan. But if he can’t defend, then we might as well stick Dalot there...
Could have got him on a free about a month ago but he's just signed a new contract.
AWB looks he has great defensive instinct and is very good in one-on-one's, but he lacks proper technical skills in terms of passing, ball playing and composure. Which isn't going to improve much in the long term. Plus, he is going to cost not less than 50-60 Million pounds. Meunier is much cheaper at around 25M, is great attacking wise, has experience at a top club, and wouldn't hamper the growth of our talented RBs.
I hear what you guys are saying but I still think signing AWB will be more beneficial for the long term. Dalot still looks raw but he's looked decent as an auxiliary RW. I'd like to see those two compete for a place, and it would be good to have two young fullbacks who provide something different on both ends of the pitch. If Crystal Palace don't lower their demands we should look elsewhere as we have other areas on the pitch to improve this window.
I think Meunier is just using United and other clubs to secure a (more lucrative) extension, we've been down this road before but we'll see how it pans out. For the part in bold, there's no way you can guarantee that, he might not even take well to English football or take time to acclimate. Meunier doesn't seem to be highly rated by a large section of PSG fans and he's considered a defensive liability.
I have no idea if they're being harsh (maybe has something to do with him being Belgian) but I don't see the point in signing a defensively poor RB when we already have one who needs a lot of work in this area. AWB or a more balanced fullback would be a better option IMO. For what its worth I don't think Ole sees Dalot as a future RB otherwise he wouldn't have entertained the idea of signing another young RB with more experience unless AWB is being looked at to merely provide depth which I can't see. If AWB signs he'll be ahead of Dalot without a doubt.
You would sign him for the reasons you outlined save for the bit about him not hindering the growth of others who might not even come good. If Dalot is good enough then Solskjaer should play him, he's only actually 5 months younger than TAA
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Fixed. And you’re just chatting shit pointing at stats which don’t tell the whole story.
Meunier would go a long way toward fixing our inept right side which in and of itself would be a massive improvement. I don’t give two shits if he isn’t the best defender.
We already have one shite attacking fullback on the left. We’d be fools to add another on the right.
Have you ever even thought about the fact that the defense might not be under the gun so often if we had more threats on the pitch?
Absolute bollocks
Believe what you want. I could care less
Meunier is a worse fullback than Rafael Da Silva. He is also worse fullback than many others on the continent who are cheaper than him.
He is a good player, but he is not what we need. Clearly a beast defensively, but on the ball he is lacking. It’s not just that game either.
Back this childish stuff again. Typical...
Its your fault line you have poor comprehension skills. Statistics are far from the only reason I and others highlight why Meunier is not the answer to our right back problem. But trutst you to only be fixated only Ashley Young and statistics, that you don't even have a valid ground to dispute. On top of idiotically pretending that NY argument ruses and falls on bloody Ashley young.
And that sir is the actually definition of chatting shit.
So what? All you do is keep reposting the same myth like it will magically become true after you repost it.
Am I supposed to take THIS question seriously?
First, We have played Dalot there and his literally the description of an attack first fullback. Has it been the solution?
Or one of the biggest problems is the ENTIRE RIGHT flank is dead. Both at right back (defending + attacking) and right winger/right forward? A problem that will stop ANY style of manager from playing consistent attacking football at United. A thing you in particular opposed the last time I brought it up.
So color me surprised when I see you here daring to ask me I 'ever even thought' of United having more threat on pitch....
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If Wan Bissaka isn't good on the ball, then I hope we stay away.
That’s my issue. We already got Shaw and he isn’t productive enough. We don’t need another one. If we had a more attacking fullback than Shaw on the left side than I’d be all over AWB.
But I’d take any of Meunier and AWB ahead of what we got now.
We don't carry enough threat from our fullbacks which is a huge concern. I just hope we sign someone that is gonna be good going forward.
Luke's attacking output may need improving, but he is 10 times better than AWB on the ball and technically. Other than that, I agree with you that Meunier would be enough improvement on Young.
We signed a right back last season, we just need to play him instead of Ashley cnuting Young. Why we're still in the market for a RB when he haven't played the one we bought last year genuinely confuses me, especially when you think of all the positions that actually do need addressing.
He's been played, just not much in his natural position. I don't think Ole sees him as a traditional right back and is looking at a proven and experienced player
Dalot can't defend and was a liability at right back when he did play there last season.
Seems to have that Smalling requirement to look at where he's going to pass and then turn his body prior to completing the pass vibe about him. And also a very good defender.
This is what Solskjaer said 20.4.19
'I don't think you can expect six players coming in - I know there won't be six players coming in,' said the Norwegian. 'We can't just take players in because we need a body.
'Mason Greenwood is a player for me - he is 17 and I want to give him the chance to become a top player at this club.
'It's the same with Marcus Rashford at 21 and Diogo Dalot at 20. These players are going to get a chance and that is going to affect players who are at the other end of their careers.
'It means you don't want too many changes with signings and you have to say to players at the other end of their careers: "I don't think you're for me".'
We are not signing Meunier.
'I don't think you can expect six players coming in - I know there won't be six players coming in,' said the Norwegian. 'We can't just take players in because we need a body.
'Mason Greenwood is a player for me - he is 17 and I want to give him the chance to become a top player at this club.
'It's the same with Marcus Rashford at 21 and Diogo Dalot at 20. These players are going to get a chance and that is going to affect players who are at the other end of their careers.
'It means you don't want too many changes with signings and you have to say to players at the other end of their careers: "I don't think you're for me".'
We are not signing Meunier.
I don't see the problem. Dalot is neither shite nor a dead cert. Whether we sign Meunier or AWB or nobody Dalot will still get games since he's versatile and can fill in in either flank or on the wing. I'd actually very much like to have the option of playing someone at LB to give Shaw a kick up the arse from time to time. Meunier has an age and experience that should be good for the young players to learn from and hopefully step up and take his spot in a couple of years. But I could also certainly see the sense in buying a proper defender like AWB given how shite a lot of our defenders are in what should be their primary responsibility.
Some strange hate for Meunier. He provides an important attacking component for the Belgian NT.
That being said Belgium has been playing a 3-4-3 which would give extra defensive protection and give Meunier more attacking freedom.
The problem here is that there too many holes that need fixing. Meunier is a stop gap option that would allow a hole to be fixed and allow money to be spent elsewhere.
That being said Belgium has been playing a 3-4-3 which would give extra defensive protection and give Meunier more attacking freedom.
The problem here is that there too many holes that need fixing. Meunier is a stop gap option that would allow a hole to be fixed and allow money to be spent elsewhere.
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Hope it's not true.
Any idea if they're reliable Zoo?
Meunier and Firpo would be a step in the right direction.
Meunier would take young out of the team and be able to provide good cover on both sides once Dalot/Laird come up to scratch.
Would make much more sense that buying a big money right back. Laird looks the real deal imo. Just a matter of time.
Would make much more sense that buying a big money right back. Laird looks the real deal imo. Just a matter of time.
He’s a good player, at least more exciting than AWB. Now let’s go for someone to compete with Shaw.
Even if he's not the best in the world, he's still significantly better than what we have. Lots of club and international experience, and at a ridiculously good fee (wages probably decent as well). Oh, and he also actually a fan of the club...What's the negative side of this transfer exactly?
Arrrgghhh
The source is a Brussels based newspaper that has been in existence since 1906.
Would be happy if true. Good fee, supports us, significant improvement on what we have and at a good age to not hinder Dalot's progression.
Our right flank will continue to have nobody that can defend properly.
La Derniere Heure is a serious source.