We can MUPPET every day of the YEAR!! FFS Woody!
Delighted he hasn't gone to Liverpool.
Not a profilic scorer ?He is/will be a scoring machine.
Gotcha, just seems odd for such a big transfer to be announced while there are still games to play, or is the Bundesliga finished?
I'm sorry what now?
Don't bother, mate. I had this argument with them a couple of weeks ago. After complaining for about 80% of the season about how shocking their squad is, ever since Fernandes came in they now have a team of monsters.
He is a fantastic signing: he's one of my favorite strikers atm mainly because he adds much more than just scoring goals. But bare in mind he is doing one of his best seasons this year, he usually has lower scoring numbers.
21 21 19 32 his last 4 seasons at leibzig. Not prolific?
2 matches to go, but the situation was somewhat complicated by a release clause in Werner's contract that had an expiry date (reported in some places as being 15 June, in others as 15 July), so Chelsea pushed for the deal early to avoid having to negotiate with Leipzig. Also apparently Werner was all but signed by Bayern to the point where he said goodbye to his teammates only for them to pull out at the eleventh hour, so his stated preference was to tie up any deal quickly. Suspect he wants to settle in and hit the ground running - this is likely why he is electing to sit out the remainder of the CL so as to link up with Chelsea ASAP.
I mean he's only just turned 24 - one would expect his scoring numbers to rise as he matures. I'm not expecting 32 goals next year but suggesting this is an outlier from his career trajectory seems a bold claim.
Been done to death but Utd would dominate a combined 11.
DDG
No chance Pogba doesn’t get in too
. Also martial walks in over both Werner and Ziyech. If we get Sancho it gets even more uneven to be honest.Yet we're behind them
How on earth is Kovacic getting the nod ahead of Fred/Pogba/Mctominay? And Ziyech/Werner havent even played 1 minute of premier league football.
Yet we have beat them on every occasion this season. We have had shocking injuries this year (everyone conveniently forgets) and to top it off I think we will finish above them anyway.
Because obviously Kovacic is a better version of Fred.
Who cares who won head to head if we finish behind them? They had a transfer ban! Our time taking advantage of that is over.
Because your system suits playing teams better than you, especially possession based ones. That's why you've done well against us and City but are at the same time quickly becoming a routine three points for the worst Arsenal side for decades.
So have we
Fred and McTominay
I've heard it all now.Martial over Werner and Ziyech is an absurd proposition. I know he's your player and you like him a lot but this is ridiculous. His best tally for league goals in a season is 11; Werner has bettered that 4 times (and managed 26 this year playing mostly in the same position as an inside left forward). Ziyech has bettered that twice whilst providing about 4 times as many assists.No chance Pogba doesn’t get in too
Kovacic has been Chelsea's best player this season and is frankly miles better than Fred or McT. Pogba is up for debate but given he hasn't played in ages and is a more awkward fit in a 2 man midfield I don't think it's absurd to say Kova edges it.
I don’t think it’s that comparable. Pogba is our best player and had missed an entire season. Rashford has missed loads of time too after being one of the top form players in the league. None of Chelsea’s injuries come close in scale or magnitude of the player out.
The same Fred that absolutely dominated Kovacic this season...Fred and McTominay
When was that exactly? You took your chances when it counted so fair enough you deserved the win but let's not pretend you dominated the whole 90 minutes.
Doesn't always work out in practice the way it does on paper. When we went on a huge run with Kante people thought his return was going to notch us up a further gear but it did the exact opposite.
The ref not sending off Maguire had a far bigger influence on the outcome of the game than Fred did
Whats our system? I cant think of a counter attacking goal we scored v you or City all season and thats 6 victories to look back on.
Both have played in garbage leagues. Particularly Ziyech, he’s proven absolutely nothing and it speaks volumes that no one even fought to try and sign him for years. Martial would rip it up playing in Germany or Holland, it’s not even a debate.
Agreed - Kovacic is the better of the two in a double pivot, Pogba is the one you want in a 3 man midfield when he has license to push forward more.
Kovacic was better than Fred despite being on the team playing worse twice. Fred didnt even play in the opener when we beat them 4-0
Wasn’t a red but okay... I distinctly remember Fred winning every battle against Kovacic all game so I don’t think he didn’t play his part. Fact is we have rolled you over all season which speaks volume of the difference in quality between the teams. Utd have just suffered heavily through injury which has caused creative issues and increased our inconsistency.
Nah I remember the game clearly. Fred was the better player in that last game against Chelsea. Kovacic is the prime example of people falling for a played with bc pretty and nice dribbles but outside of that he’s pretty average.
Your three second half goals against us at OT came from counters. The second we got dispossessed on the edge our box about 20 seconds before the goal, the 3rd Pulisic got dispossessed and Pogba put Rashford clean through and the 4th was similar to the second.
Okay maybe we can discuss Mctominator but Fred has been one of the best and consistant midfielders in the league this year so for you to brush him off that easily really ticks me off. Kovacic does not even reach Pogba`s ankles.Fred and McTominay
How can you rate players that have not played for Chelsea yet? Maybe they dont fit the playstyle? Both Chelsea and United have had class players that joined that did not work out like we thought: Torres,Schevachenko,Mutu,Sanchez,Veron,Falcao on top of my head.
The Bundesliga is a garbage league, yet Sancho is some sort of saviour who'd walk it in England? Pick a side there, mate.
Of course it's a debate, it's not as though he's "ripped it up" in continental play against sides from those nations. What a ludicrous argument.
So that's your array of excuses for this season; how about the last few where his production is dwarfed by that of Ziyech and Werner?
