Excellent today we need to make sure either him or Anderson are present in our midfield to make it work. They bring energy and drive in there. Infact it would be preferable if both started with Carrick would like to see a run of that.
Tom Cleverley | 2012-14 Performances
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Was good tonight, probably carry a slight injury too.
I thought he should have been more awake for their first goal. He just seemed to switch off while the ball was still active and Yaya Toure was unmarked on the edge of the box. He could easily have moved towards Yaya Toure and been in a decent position to get a block in.
He wasn't very good. Unless energy and workrate make a top class footballer. He's not even strong in the tackle.
he did a ton of running and was very good. got caught out for their first goal however might have been more of the clever movement of Tevez, Aguero, Nasri and Silva then Toms positioning.
I liked the look of the Carrick-Cleverley pairing
Television didn't show how we lost the ball that lead to Aguero winning the corner for the equalizer but seemed to be something he did.
Was very good otherwise. Such a big difference when you have the more advanced cm that can sprint back as well. No disrespect to Scholes.
Was very good otherwise. Such a big difference when you have the more advanced cm that can sprint back as well. No disrespect to Scholes.
Thats very very harsh Will. I thought he was good but not yet convinced that he will be top drawer. I think he'll be more of a squad player but a very good one at that. Lacks pace for me and hasn't got a stand out attribute but very neat and tidy and good handy player to have.
He was good today I just wish he would be more involved with our attacking play, playing more passes through and creating chances
I thought he was solid today and his workrate enabled Carrick to concentrate on his own game. It's a shame he has no pace as there were two or three occasions he came away with the ball in midfield but didn't have the burst needed to set us off on the counter.
Thought he was exceptional today. Cross between Beckham and Scholes
Will Absolute in criticising United players shocker.
Maybe he wasn't perfect but he was solid enough on City, packed with big name mercenaries.
heh, so true.
I thought that he was just OK. Didn't really do enough for me.
Yup. Not a surprise.
Just as abit of perspective: Roy Keane was about the same age when he joined us. Relatively speaking, there is not much between them at a similar age.
The thing i like the most about him is his movement after he passes the ball. Always makes space for the return pass to keep things ticking over. It is very important in a CM and both him and Ando do it well.
He'l be a very good player for us.
He'l be a very good player for us.
Didn't look out of place in a two-man midfield against a very good City midfield away from home. Promising signs for the future. Key season for him after last years write off.
Thats quite far of the mark Sam, Keane was a quality player when he joined us a real box to box type the top young one in the country.
He did quite well today, when playing Carrick you need someone who can get around and close down play, and he is the perfect man for the job.
I would like to see the midfield combo of Clevs, Carrick and Ando-well i can dream
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I would like to see the midfield combo of Clevs, Carrick and Ando-well i can dream
.Did quite well, nice performance, energetic, and didn't misplace too many passes.
He obviously wasn't claiming that Cleverley is as good as Keane, just that he's doing well at an age when most CMs haven't got near their peak yet. Plus I think it's fair to say he's one of the top CMs of his age in the league. Thoroughly outplayed Wilshere against Arsenal, and he's often considered the best youngster.
Couldn't agree more. He is never afraid to receive the ball and he constantly moves to enable some nice one-twos. Defensively, he also has the energy and pace to keep up with opponents. The positioning will come with experience, but he is light years ahead of Giggs/Scholes when it comes to protecting our back four.
Why? Where would Rooney play?He did quite well today, when playing Carrick you need someone who can get around and close down play, and he is the perfect man for the job.
I would like to see the midfield combo of Clevs, Carrick and Ando-well i can dream
Unless we play a diamond it would mean moving him out wide flanking RVP.
Was very good today, particularly with his offensive use of the ball and movement, still think he has more to learn defensively but lots of good signs. Hope we try and give him and Carrick a run now, get a good understanding between them.
Thought he was decent. Recycled the ball well and got involved in all areas.
Wasn't a glittering display but considering the circumstances I think we can be very pleased.
Wasn't a glittering display but considering the circumstances I think we can be very pleased.
He doesn't half get battered. Every game he's in sees a load hacking, stamping and following-through. I guess he's that style of player, always that little bit quicker than the opponent and eventually it gets frustrating. Toure's body slam was brutal.
There can be no accusations of injury-proneness any more, given the sort of rough treatment he's been walking away from unscathed all season. And the fact that he played today at all, I suppose.
There can be no accusations of injury-proneness any more, given the sort of rough treatment he's been walking away from unscathed all season. And the fact that he played today at all, I suppose.
Happy he didn't look out of depth in a 2 man midfield especially with Anderson's absence today.
My man of the match for us today. Was really positive in play.
Thought he did very well today. He's really good at keeping a calm head and relieve pressure by passing and moving so we can play our way out of defence while under pressure. None of our other midfielders bar Ando does that, really.
Links the attack and the midfield in a way most of our other midfielders don't.
Links the attack and the midfield in a way most of our other midfielders don't.
lulwut? MOTM was Rooney. Surely.
The fact that Yaya Toure tried to take Tom out shows he must not have been doing too much wrong today: It speaks volumes when arguably the Premier League's best centre midfielder sees fit to try to put you on the sidelines.
Justice. When he went down after trying to do Clev and then had to get subbed it was such a sweet thing to watch. Bet it burned him having to sit silently and watch Van Persie win us the game.
He was immense today. He worked his socks off. Keeping Yaya quiet is no mean feat. I think he needed that for confidence too. Really top game
Hence why i said 'My' man of the match.
I don't get this "Keeping it simple doesn't make him a top class player" argument.
Judge a player on what he brings to the team. Cleverley keeps the ball moving and gets the team moving upfield, it's something we seriously lack without him.
Judge a player on what he brings to the team. Cleverley keeps the ball moving and gets the team moving upfield, it's something we seriously lack without him.
Exactly. So you thought Cleverley was better than Rooney. Hence the "lulwut".
Cleverley was neat and tidy and was busy in midfield. I wouldn't have had him in the top 3 though.
Cleverley was good today.
Had a couple of chances to work the goalkeeper but failed to control the shots. Definitely something that can be improved and would be a real asset to his game.
Had a couple of chances to work the goalkeeper but failed to control the shots. Definitely something that can be improved and would be a real asset to his game.
Read his post that is exactly what he is saying.
Yeah it did sound like that.
Good to see him getting picked for these games too. I thought I read SAF had mentioned wanting experience so I really expected Giggs or Scholes to start. Just hope he keeps getting picked.
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