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So those feckers can actually be faster than lightning when push comes to shove (i.e. massive protests).
 
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Hopefully they're investing now because potential buyers of the club want us to do that and they will cover the expense. If I'm looking at buying United, I want to come in when we're strong, rather than coming in and sitting through a struggle of a season and waiting until next summer before it can be sorted and potentially more damage done.

But perhaps I'm just being naive. Add Casemiro, 80m for Antony, a GK, another CM and a RB, which we apparently are looking to do, will take our spending to levels never seen under the Glazers.
We’ve spent over a billion pound and the majority has been wasted (wrong player and/or ridiculous fee).

The issue is spending it wisely. Hopefully Casemiro is the first of many and t.b.h.. if it’s Divs or good players, win/win?

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What is united looking for in Antony? A right winger or a left winger? Cody and Antony most definitely are the opposite.
We are probably just looking for either. We sign a left winger, he replaces Rashford and Sancho plays on the right and if we sign a right winger Sancho plays on the left and takes Rashford's place.
 

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We’ve spent over a billion pound and the majority has been wasted (wrong player and/or ridiculous fee).

The issue is spending it wisely. Hopefully Casemiro is the first of many and t.b.h.. if it’s Divs or good players, win/win?

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I think a large % of those failed players in the last decade are there in no small part because of the shit show around them as well at that time. They largely came from successful teams having played really well….we always had squads made up of picks of several previous managers, all wanting a different style. We need to hang out hat on this manager for 3 plus years to try and rid the squad of all of that and hope…
 

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When Ancelotti says that Casemiro wants a United-move - I think that is a safe bet - he is coming
 

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Think this is slightly hyperbolic.

Would make little sense to spend an extra £50 million, just to get £15 million in dividends. They took £11 million after last season I think.

I'm not defending the Glazers before anyone starts. Apparently anything less than stating they are the worst type of human possible is "sympathising".

They are crap owners and we are hamstrung by the fact we have to sustain ourselves along with the debt on the club because we pay for their debt.

But the dividend thing seems blown out of proportion so badly. The problem isn't that they took an £11 million payment. The issue is they don't know how to run a club and value business over pure sporting success.

Money isn't the reason we're in the mud.
Completely agree with you that money isn't the reason, but it is part of the problem as a whole - we are the only club the pays dividends to its owners. That says a huge amount to me personally and that they are using United as a cash cow.

The money the club spends is generated through its own revenue. The dividends payment goes into the Glaziers back pocket
 

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Can’t find anything on Matt’s Twitter though

can anyone find the article? I inow your supposed to have the corresponding tweet/article when posting from
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What’s the context here?

we will be over 100m once Casemiro signs

Any context if he means on one player or on players from now on?
 

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Think this is slightly hyperbolic.

Would make little sense to spend an extra £50 million, just to get £15 million in dividends. They took £11 million after last season I think.

I'm not defending the Glazers before anyone starts. Apparently anything less than stating they are the worst type of human possible is "sympathising".

They are crap owners and we are hamstrung by the fact we have to sustain ourselves along with the debt on the club because we pay for their debt.

But the dividend thing seems blown out of proportion so badly. The problem isn't that they took an £11 million payment. The issue is they don't know how to run a club and value business over pure sporting success.

Money isn't the reason we're in the mud.
Over their ownership period the glazers have taken £1billion out of Utd. City owners invested £1billion in that period. Thats why their team, training ground and stadium is state of the art and ours is a crumbing shambles.
 

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Over their ownership period the glazers have taken £1billion out of Utd. City owners invested £1billion in that period. Thats why their team, training ground and stadium is state of the art and ours is a crumbing shambles.
You've missed my point entirely and I don't know if you're being deliberately disingenuous or if you're genuinely confusing the money we've wasted as a result of the debt with the dividends.

My point has nothing to do with whether we could have (and should) have spent more. It's more the idea that them panic spending tens of millions now, in order to get their dividend payment, makes no sense because the dividends are far less than the panic spending.

People are so wound up by the twitter mob that they can't have objective conversations about this.

Have they caused the club to lose money they didn't need to lose? Yes

Are they panic spending now in order to take more dividends? No. That is my point.
 

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Completely agree with you that money isn't the reason, but it is part of the problem as a whole - we are the only club the pays dividends to its owners. That says a huge amount to me personally and that they are using United as a cash cow.

The money the club spends is generated through its own revenue. The dividends payment goes into the Glaziers back pocket
I totally agree with you.

I am not disputing for a second that they've caused the club to effectively bleed money but at the same time, the club has (fortunately) got the revenues to have provided a competitive transfer budget. But that isn't even the point, my retort was more in response to the suggestion that they are doing this only to be able to take their dividends and that point in and of itself just doesn't make sense.

It's not enough to say they are incompetent owners, their ownership model has caused the club to lose a lot of money and they should sell the club because they aren't capable of running a football club successfully.

No, no. That's not enough. Like I said, you have to go on and really make sure everybody knows you hate them but that causes people to say stupid and inaccurate things. People now seem to have to 'outdo' each other to 'prove' how much they hate the Glazers.

But when I say it's a bit far in response to someone suggesting that hanging them and setting them on fire is called for, I inevitably get met with what a fecking Glazer sympathiser I am. Because yeah, I'm the fecking weird one for not wanting to burn people alive because we finished 6th in the Premier League.

That has genuinely happened.
 

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Nice are interested in Diallo, we'd like a loan without an option, but looks like they want him permanently.
 

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Nice are interested in Diallo, we'd like a loan without an option, but looks like they want him permanently.
If we're buying a 22-year-old in his position, It may be best if we sold him with a buy-back clause.
 
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