I like it….it does make the supposed interest in Rice a bit weird as I don’t know how he fits with them
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Whilst I am not the biggest fan of Rice or mount, I have to agree that a midfield selection of Casemiro, Bruno, Amad, Mount, Rice and Eriksen (and potentially Sabitzer) looks pretty decent and reliable.
In regards to the failed foreign midfield experiments add Anderson, Kleberson, Djemba Dejemba
Firstly, Casemiro is suspended about half a dozen games a season, secondly, his legs are starting to go, and thirdly, he will gradually replace him as first choice number 6.
Also, in some games, particularly away from home, I expect us to revert to the more robust 4231, with Casemiro and Rice as the double pivot.
Having quality players gives a manager options. When we have players on the bench who the manager does not trust, we can't afford to be flexible, so picking three from Casemiro, Rice, Mount, Eriksen, Bruno and Mainoo suddenly looks much better than finding three from Casemiro, Eriksen, Bruno, Fred, Mctominay and VDB, where the first three pick themselves.
I hope we walk away if they don't accept a reasonable offer. We need to stop giving in to these clubs that want to bleed us dry. He can't get into their 11, he has a year left on his contract and he wants to leave! 50 million sounds about right, doesn't it?
Very fair.
Not convinced Bruno will ever really work as an 8 against half decent teams, and although mount might be a better option there than mcfred I still think there are better options around
Yeah, I don't hear about them so they don't seem to be making the step up. Foden and Sancho were all I could find.
Promoting a wonderkid every couple of years is fantastic. We seem to do it more than most and definitely more than City. Not sure why you'd scoff at that?
There's no shame in admitting our academy produces more and better footballers, either.
He’d still have the least defensive responsibility of the three though and he did play well in games deep last season. His work rate and defensive work is on a par with KDB.
Personally I think a sensible club waits a year to get him on a free with a nice sign on bonus, and look elsewhere for a stop gap. That’s the difference between United and a well run club.
I wouldn't include Sancho in that list, as he never made the step up at City.
City have such a big squad, with strength in depth, that they are stunting opportunities for their academy graduates. Soon kids will not join their academy for lack of a clear progression route, or like Sancho and Lavia will leave at the earliest opportunity.
I think the compromise situation is to have the big squad but actively look to include kids in the match day squad, particularly for league Cup games, and give them minutes so they can work their way in to the team. Garnacho has done that, although you could argue that it was when Rashford was forced to play as a striker, but MG and Rashford have broken through as well in recent years. Foden is pretty much the only one at City in the last ten years.
We are being used for Arsenal to pay up
Yeah, with McTominay and Fred leaving you would need Rice to play a lot of games.
I’d imagine it would be Casemiro or Rice with Mount and Bruno for home games or ‘easier’ games. Then Rice and Casemiro with Bruno for away.
Mount can cover Bruno as well. So Casemiro, Rice and Mount.
A lot of top teams have somewhat had a 4 midfielder rotation.
100%. Mount isn't worth more than 45 imo. The only reason Chelsea are holding us for ransom is because its United.
Bursting with insight as always is our Howard
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Even if we sold McT, Fred and DvB we'd still have only sold 2 midfielders, DvB doesn't count.
Exactly.
I like Mount but I’m awfully worried if EtH along with the many scouts we pay can’t find someone else. He does some things exceptionally well but he isn’t the type of player we should be bartering over, especially not with a year to go & players in similar situations being flogged for less.
Hopefully we leave the offer on the table & work on other things.
The three combined can just about make one decent player. Mount alone will not be close to enough for us to progress. Hopefully at the very least we get a Rabiot also if money is tight.
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He did well in games against poor teams generally. His workrate is good but his positioning isn't great. It's his use of the ball I would have greater issue with in a deeper role though
No way are we in for Rice. Casemiro and Rice can’t play together in a team struggling for goals. And its not like Casemiro is getting benched anytime soon.
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Yeah signing Mount, Rice and Rabiot won't happen. Two of the 3? Very possible.
Rice/Rabiot, Mount, Eriksen, Bruno, Casemiro and VDB/Mainoo/McTominay.
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OK, I get it, but to all the people who called me out over referring to Keane as British, none of you noticed the other stretch, that the point I was making of the success we have had with British midfielders, and the person I was comparing to Keane was none other than Republic of Ireland star Declan Rice!!!!
A loan is probably a wise move. If he finds form, maybe we can re-evaluate things in a year to see if he fancies another shot here. Along with him proving fitness. Or we can sell him for a small fee, but probably more than what we’d get for him at this moment in time.
I'm not sure. Last loan he had was a disaster. Would like to see him cleared off the wage bill and a pathway for younger players made clearer. We can't be waiting years on players to finally show they are good enough to be squad players.
My gosh, I forgot all about his Everton loan.
Maybe it’s worth getting rid of him if anyone can offer ~£8-10m for him.
No more re-evaluation please. Cut our losses and move on.
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Why not offer him to Inter for Onana ?
Didn't Inter wanted Donny in the past if I'm not mistaken ?
Because his contract expires in a week and then we have no power over anything he does
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He is talking about donny...
Yeah Kane is the guy we should be prioritising spend the budget on instead,reason being because he's best striker we can get. Surely we can find a cheaper midfielder than Mount with similar attributes
Yeah two of them is a possibility but there is significant price gap between Rice/Rabiot