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jesperjaap said:
Thanks god, though Im in doom and gloom mode with our activity so far. Last season we signed an exciting young centre back on the cusp (a United type signing), an ex-Fergie signing, an exciting player in Miki and a Larsson type free signing of grander proportions. Although I thought we needed a couple more signings it was a very good first window from Mourinho.

SO far this we have signed a centre back I have only seen once so cant comment too much but from what I read and have seen in clips he looks a typical Mourinho centre back, we are now about to sign a typical Mourinho striker (an ex signing even). We are mainly getting linked with team minded wide players and central midfielders.

Looks to me Mourinho is trying to put his stamp on the side. Though it may improve reulsts and tactical play, I am not sure it is a good thing, it could be turning us into a Mourinho project and further from a proper Manchester United side. I really hope there is an exciting wide player signed, as it is massively needed for me if we are going to compete for the biggest trophies and also to keep the United way. If we sign Perisic for example, I will be concerned I may be watching tumescent, athletic football of good quality like Inter or Chelsea in red shirts.

Mourinho is a great manager and when he took over I thought if he can keep the philosophies and traditions of our club he will be a true legend. There hav ebeen signs here and there of him doing that....there have been more though of him trying to turn our side into a winning Mourinho one....concerned
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So, what you want to say is Jose should abandon the team building way he used to do in all his previous clubs and acquire a new strategy for building a team ? It doesn't make any logic, sorry.
 

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There is a chance belotti would cost the same as morata, and his italian connections could be a factor. Then there is Abamyang too, As lukaku was their first choice conte would not have been looking for a hold up player type striker as they have pretty creative and direct wingers in hazard and Pedro so abamyang could be also one of that player who is desperate for big wages and also in the future could be lured to china which is chelsea's policy as well.

Then They could make peace with Costa again for a year as he would not be playing anyway for 6 months and atletico refusing to pay the money they are demanding. And Morata ofcourse for 90 m euros which would be direct replacement for a player like costa provided chelsea are willing to go that high.
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Conte, a Juventus legend. Torino Juve's city and bitter rivals, don't see that Italian connection here at all, especially considering Torino refused 70 million from AC Milan.

It all depends, having Costa as their hold-up striker worked really good last season, I'm inclined to think that that's exactly the type of player they will be looking for tbh, hence their interest in both Lukaku and Morata.

Market is currently very limited for a CF.

Either way we shall see but I reckon they might try to get Morata.
 

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Yes they're very similar, but Griezmann has been playing as one of the strikers alongside a target man (secondary striker), rather than as the playmaker behind the main striker (CAM). Also, after it was clear Griezmann wasn't coming, we briefed the media that we were looking more for a bigger target man up front (so not necessarily 10's).
And on your point on bidding for players, the same source that said we bid for Perisic (Di Marzio) has said we bid for Fabinho and Telegraph has said that we've had a bid fo
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Yes they're very similar, but Griezmann has been playing as one of the strikers alongside a target man (secondary striker), rather than as the playmaker behind the main striker (CAM). Also, after it was clear Griezmann wasn't coming, we briefed the media that we were looking more for a bigger target man up front (so not necessarily 10's).
And on your point on bidding for players, the same source that said we bid for Perisic (Di Marzio) has said we bid for Fabinho and Telegraph has said that we've had a bid for Dier rejected.
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Yeah, I understand the difference between the roles, what I'm saying is they wear the same number and you only have one or the other, making them both 10's. I've obviously missed di marzio's post on us bidding for fabinho which I'd be all in favour of. Not super convinced we've bid on dier though.
 

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el3mel said:
So, what you want to say is Jose should abandon the team building way he used to do in all his previous clubs and acquire a new strategy for building a team ? It doesn't make any logic, sorry.
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I am saying he should be signing a different profile of player than those he has used before, so I guess yes I am. Whether it is logically or not doesnt even enter my head to be honest. I have been a Manchester United supporter for 37 years and seem some great, average and awful teams. I have been lucky that a large proportion of that time has been under Ferguson, but even in the days of Ron Atkinson the type of football and players we signed were all attacking ones and exciting ones, regardless of poor performances and results at times.

One of the great things about some of the elite clubs is they have a brand of football they have generally stuck to. We are one of those clubs....or were. Moyes reverted to long balls, LVG reverted to a defensive possesion game. Mourinho with the signings and links so far looks like he is reverting to a Mourinho side. I want to be watching Manchester United players in Manchester United shirts playing a Manchester United brand of football...not Mourinho players, playing Chelsea/Inter football in Manchester United shirts, otherwise what is the point of supporting a club? Though with all the talk of "projects" and "Philosophies" and the money and commercialism around, maybe I am just gettiing out of touch with how football is now turning.
 

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The new Modric has arrived :drool: although he will have to fight a lot to get minutes
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He'll get plenty of minutes. 5 starters and 1 backup is the perfect balance. Not sure kovacic will accept being the backup, but honestly i'm not arsed. If he wants to leave, he can go

Same with the forwards, 5 starters -Cris, Benzema, Bale, Isco, Asensio- 1 backup -Morata- and a joker who can give us tactical variations in Lucas

I think Dani, Isco, Llorente and Asensio will play plenty this season
 

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jesperjaap said:
I am saying he should be signing a different profile of player than those he has used before, so I guess yes I am. Whether it is logically or not doesnt even enter my head to be honest. I have been a Manchester United supporter for 37 years and seem some great, average and awful teams. I have been lucky that a large proportion of that time has been under Ferguson, but even in the days of Ron Atkinson the type of football and players we signed were all attacking ones and exciting ones, regardless of poor performances and results at times.

One of the great things about some of the elite clubs is they have a brand of football they have generally stuck to. We are one of those clubs....or were. Moyes reverted to long balls, LVG reverted to a defensive possesion game. Mourinho with the signings and links so far looks like he is reverting to a Mourinho side. I want to be watching Manchester United players in Manchester United shirts playing a Manchester United brand of football...not Mourinho players, playing Chelsea/Inter football in Manchester United shirts, otherwise what is the point of supporting a club? Though with all the talk of "projects" and "Philosophies" and the money and commercialism around, maybe I am just gettiing out of touch with how football is now turning.
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First, I don't understand what you're talking about regarding the exciting attacking signing we made under SAF as if we're not doing it already now. If Lukaku isn't an exciting attacking signing with his 25 goals in the league so what's the exciting one ? Also how do you consider isn't an attacking player ? or you just made your mind that we're bringing him to track back only like the myth of Jose restricting our wings ? If I remember correctly, SAF had previously signed Young and Valencia who are in exactly the same category as Perisic.

Out of the 4 signings we're going to make this summer we're bringing a ball playing defender, a proven goal scorer and a winger + only a specific DMF to free Pogba from his defensive duties but you assumed this is Jose reverting to a defensive football like he did with Inter. I don't understand really.

What I can say anyway is the manager is allowed to have a vision in building his team and he should get full responsibility of building his side in his own ways then we can evaluate his work and what he did here, otherwise we shouldn't have hired Mourinho from the first place, easy and simple.
 

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I thought I would welcomed this, but this actually makes me feel sad.
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Same here. I want him gone for the good of the club presently, and for his own sake too. However I cannot deny he has done a lot for us with him being our record goal scorer and one of the main reasons for our successes in SAF's latter seasons. Hope he bangs in a few against Liverpool or City in Everton blue next season.
 

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Honestly? He is hugely overrated.
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How exactly? I'd argue the opposite. Not seeing many rating Dier atm. He was one of Spurs' best players the season before last. I'd rather we get him than nobody. I haven't seen anything to suggest Monaco have any interest in selling any more players so maybe people should stop relying solely on potentially signing Fabinho.
 

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How exactly? I'd argue the opposite. Not seeing many rating Dier atm. He was one of Spurs' best players the season before last. I'd rather we get him than nobody. I haven't seen anything to suggest Monaco have any interest in selling any more players so maybe people should stop relying solely on potentially signing Fabinho.
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They're willing to let Fabinho go just not to a direct rival like PSG.
 

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I reckon we have somebody else lined up before tour. Will wait to see the Sunday paper stories come out later tonight.
 

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jesperjaap said:
I am saying he should be signing a different profile of player than those he has used before, so I guess yes I am. Whether it is logically or not doesnt even enter my head to be honest. I have been a Manchester United supporter for 37 years and seem some great, average and awful teams. I have been lucky that a large proportion of that time has been under Ferguson, but even in the days of Ron Atkinson the type of football and players we signed were all attacking ones and exciting ones, regardless of poor performances and results at times.

One of the great things about some of the elite clubs is they have a brand of football they have generally stuck to. We are one of those clubs....or were. Moyes reverted to long balls, LVG reverted to a defensive possesion game. Mourinho with the signings and links so far looks like he is reverting to a Mourinho side. I want to be watching Manchester United players in Manchester United shirts playing a Manchester United brand of football...not Mourinho players, playing Chelsea/Inter football in Manchester United shirts, otherwise what is the point of supporting a club? Though with all the talk of "projects" and "Philosophies" and the money and commercialism around, maybe I am just gettiing out of touch with how football is now turning.
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You play to win. Jose won at Chelsea. He won a treble at Inter. Won at Porto. Won at Real. United did a complete smash and grab against Bayern to complete the treble. Matches are not always full of flair and glamour.

The landscape has changed and you have to adapt and be flexible to be successful. Arsenal and Wenger have failed to do this. Liverpool continue to have a frail defense and GK.

Best examples are Brazil and Holland. Jogo Bonito and Total Football. Haven't done shit in years. Why? Was not effective anymore. Tactics changed, talent changed, etc. Having the right balance wins. And United want winners.
 

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They're willing to let Fabinho go just not to a direct rival like PSG.
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What exactly suggests that? There has only been talk of interest in Fabinho and Monaco have straight up rejected 2 bids. You can say it was only because PSG made the bids all you like but you're basing that on nothing. I don't see why Monaco would be interested in weakening their side any more. They've sold players and replaced them. I could see Mendy potentially going and that's it. I don't buy the Arsenal Lemar links either. I'm sure they're interested but I don't see Monaco selling. People seem to think the French Champions are just going to sell their whole team easily. It's not like they're a poor club either.
 

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What exactly suggests that? There has only been talk of interest in Fabinho and Monaco have straight up rejected 2 bids. You can say it was only because PSG made the bids all you like but you're basing that on nothing. I don't see why Monaco would be interested in weakening their side any more. They've sold players and replaced them. I could see Mendy potentially going and that's it. I don't buy the Arsenal Lemar links either. I'm sure they're interested but I don't see Monaco selling. People seem to think the French Champions are just going to sell their whole team easily. It's not like they're a poor club either.
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Players who have been told they are staying and aren't leaving under any circumstances don't openly flirt with other top European clubs like Fabinho keeps doing.

Talking up managers and clubs would be a no no but he keeps doing it and Monaco have only flat out refused to sell to PSG nobody else has actually bid for him.
 

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Player who have been told they are staying and aren't leaving under any circumstances don't openly flirt with other top European clubs like Fabinho keeps doing.

Talking up managers and clubs would be a no no but he keeps doing it and Monaco have only flat out refused to sell to PSG nobody else has actually bid for him.
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Plenty have before. Modric and Lewandowski come to mind off the top of my head.
 

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Tiber said:
I thought I would welcome this, but this actually makes me feel sad.
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Same here. Glad he realized it was time to, but it's all rather bittersweet. Wish him the best and hope he justifies consideration for WC. It will be interesting if he scores vs us.
 
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