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Didn't watch the England game.
Can someone enlighten me on the racism that took place please?
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Can someone enlighten me on the racism that took place please?
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I agree or nothing will ever change.England players should have walked off the pitch 100%.
Plenty of stuff on YoutubeDidn't watch the England game.
Can someone enlighten me on the racism that took place please?
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The majority of crowds at northern European league games are white,working class males,most of whom have witnessed mass immigration to their countries and don't like it,good luck with trying to force Kick It Out down their throats.
I agree with the OP. Take away what they love. Punish their team by enforcing total stadium attendance bans. Keep doing that until they police themselves.Honestly this it's the culture there and you are not gonna change it by trying to impose more authority on them, if anything it'd make it worse and end up in protests about mistreatment
At the moment they are winning, they get to see the game, as well as get to be racist... win win. If the game gets cancelled, in which way will they win exactly? there will no longer be any BAME players paraded in front of them to abuse.To stop racism isnt only on UEFA. What about the clubs? Or the countries?
Atleast UEFA does something. It aint enough, no, but there are nations and clubs who do nothing. The refeere during the game against Bulgaria ( Croatian ref? ) was brilliant. He handled it really well and Southgate praised him for it.
I dont think stop playing is the answer, for me they win when we let it go that way. They should be identified and punished by the authorities
Same way most countries worldwide wouldn't like mass immigration being imposed on them, especially from countries that are very different culturally.The majority of crowds at northern European league games are white,working class males,most of whom have witnessed mass immigration to their countries and don't like it,good luck with trying to force Kick It Out down their throats.
Don't know what that has to do with this but anyway I have noticed one thing in the States. For all it's nutty gun people and racist people, I've never heard anything racist in the stadiums ever and I have been everywhere and watched every sport except maybe Nascar racing.Same way most countries worldwide wouldn't like mass immigration being imposed on them, especially from countries that are very different culturally.
For example: You hear a lot of noise about USA and illegal immigration and how evil Americans supposedly are for being opposed to said immigration. I wonder if the people who accuse Americans of being racist for their views on illegal immigration have bothered to look up Mexico's immigration policy.
Spoiler alert: Mexico doesn't accept illegal immigration. No 'pathway to citizenship' in that country.
This! No reason why not. No reason. No. (But backhander to UEFA execs..)Should be a one step protocol.
If there is organised racist chanting like last night. Team on the pitch decides if they want to walk off (automatic 2-0 win) or continue.
Then, let's say this is Bulgaria given last night, their next match cannot take place in Bulgaria. They will effectively have their next home game automatically changed to an away game - they can choose to forfeit the game (counts as a 0-2 loss) or accept. No Bulgaria fans will be allowed to purchase tickets. If racism continues at the matches in Bulgaria after this, their next two home games become away fixtures and so on. This would cripple the countries FA financially very quickly and punish all fans but I'd wager you'd see a dramatic improvement if the rule is enforced.
Spoiler alert : Mexico doesnt have a ruling class that freely employs illegal workers in order to keep them from doing shit they could do themselves.Same way most countries worldwide wouldn't like mass immigration being imposed on them, especially from countries that are very different culturally.
For example: You hear a lot of noise about USA and illegal immigration and how evil Americans supposedly are for being opposed to said immigration. I wonder if the people who accuse Americans of being racist for their views on illegal immigration have bothered to look up Mexico's immigration policy.
Spoiler alert: Mexico doesn't accept illegal immigration. No 'pathway to citizenship' in that country.
Agreed, I feel a rematch is the only appropriate action, but will be very telling how the FA decides to approach this, and will show how hard they want to tackle racism, down to the grassroots.Its disgusting. These animals need to be stopped!
It will be interesting to see what happens with Haringey, regards walking off the pitch.
Yeah. Think this is where it gets interesting, though.Agreed, I feel a rematch is the only appropriate action, but will be very telling how the FA decides to approach this, and will show how hard they want to tackle racism, down to the grassroots.
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Going to play devil's advocate and say would anyone care if "Serbs" was replaced with "Scouse" in a game vs Liverpool?Not really racism 'per se' but here's a video of England fans chanting "Serbs are bastards, everywhere they go" during their match against Kosovo*.
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Everyone should care but that is more of an internal England issue, in this instance we got people from one country far from home, chanting insults towards entire nation.Going to play devil's advocate and say would anyone care if "Serbs" was replaced with "Scouse" in a game vs Liverpool?
As is always the case when it comes to ethnic groups, as well as nationalities, you can’t view it in isolation, when most of the weight of these words is defined by their historical significance.Going to play devil's advocate and say would anyone care if "Serbs" was replaced with "Scouse" in a game vs Liverpool?
Because everyone that doesn't vote left is a racist.Wrong, just look at recent elections around white countries
The irony of making several rants about racism only to signal that you judge people's opinions on their ethnic background rather for their real value.Worked how exactly? Did you see the comments of the Bulgarian manger after the game?
How was England staying on the pitch whilst racism was still heard in the second half a triumph? It just panders to racism and informs nations that they can be racist to a certain extent and still avoid match getting abandoned. Would be interested to know your ethnic background because your comments are ridiculous.
Most of the time yes, either consciously or subconsciously due to the policies that they support.Because everyone that doesn't vote left is a racist.