UK General Election - 12th December 2019 | Con 365, Lab 203, LD 11, SNP 48, Other 23 - Tory Majority of 80

[barros]

Thank god the majority of adults in this country aren't caftards.

 

[2mufc0]

The Caf is very left-leaning, it's one of the great things about it.

Social media is a bubble, in many ways, and really, so is most of the internet. The most active internet users are generally younger than the average, more urban than the average, have higher educatiin than average - these are all decent predictors of left-leaning political views.

Read Daily Mail comments to meet the other world.

I'm also pretty sure social media also only show things that interest you and your ideals, as the software learns from your activities and what you like/follow.

 

[RedSky]

The Caf is very left-leaning, it's one of the great things about it.

Social media is a bubble, in many ways, and really, so is most of the internet. The most active internet users are generally younger than the average, more urban than the average, have higher educatiin than average - these are all decent predictors of left-leaning political views.

Read Daily Mail comments to meet the other world.

Or youtube comments. *shudders*

 

[JonDahl]

What about on here then?

I know it's very small sample size but the poll here is so wildly different to what happening it seems and no one's manipulating things on this site.

It's exactly the same here - people get attacked for posting a certain view, others of the same view don't bother to. Echo chamber grows and grows and the remaining posters wank themselves silly. People then genuinely think that the country is on their side () despite never talking to anyone beyond the medium of keyboard.

 

[lewwoo]

You got boring ages ago mate

Haha do you need cream for that burn? Cheesy.

 

[Rolandofgilead]

I feel sorry for Ireland most of all

 

[2mufc0]

Tory gains in Labour heartlands could change the direction of Tory policy. If they want honour the faith shown in them by folk who have voted labour all their lives they will need to move to the left and strengthen their social policies.

Bloody Marxists.

 

[Pink Moon]

Tory gains in Labour heartlands could change the direction of Tory policy. If they want honour the faith shown in them by folk who have voted labour all their lives they will need to move to the left and strengthen their social policies.

Why would they need to move left when so many just voted for them anyway?

There is something funny though about moving left to appease a demographic which most likely voted for them based on Brexit... a vote entirely about getting johnny foreigner out. Not sure those people want a left-leaning party.

 

[Pexbo]

Tory gains in Labour heartlands could change the direction of Tory policy. If they want honour the faith shown in them by folk who have voted labour all their lives they will need to move to the left and strengthen their social policies.

On the contrary, I think it’s more a case of those places already shifting considerably to the right than the Tories having to meet them in the middle. The seal of tribalism has been broken and the memory of Thatcherism has been replaced with Brexit.

 

[RK]

Hate comments like that .would do better to take a look at why they voted elsewhere instead of being so bitter towards them

Both are shifting the blame - the root problem is the flawed electoral system.

 

[711]

BBC's boring, I've switched.

 

[Drifter]

Angela Raynor or Rebecca Long Bailey

 

[lewwoo]

The left is eating itself

 

[Fergies Gum]

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[Mr Pigeon]

15 properties (some houses, some flats) - if you are counting...

@Sultan - I assume you will take action on this one.

Oh come off it, you insulted me and called me a tool for having the audacity to question the validity of your comments about pensions. Don't say cnuty things, yeah?

 

[SalfordRed18]

Who is?

Very good

 

[Siorac]

I'm also pretty sure social media also only show things that interest you and your ideals, as the software learns from your activities and what you like/follow.

Absolutely. I was trying to explain more why a place like the Caf is so 'lefty'.

 

[Hephaestus]

Jess Philips getting blamed on Twitter

Of course. It's all the moderates' fault.

 

[Pink Moon]

Keir Starmer is probably the Labour leader they need right now but not sure if he will be.

Dan Jarvis IMO. Ex-Para, that alone will go a huge way to regaining public support in England.

 

[Flying high]

Honestly my social media timelines for the last month have been packed with Labour voters mouthing off about how bad the Tories are.

Yet I know plenty of Tory voters and I didn’t see a single post from any of them tearing in to Labour.

Too many people on social media think because they go on a massive rant someone will suddenly change colours on Election Day.

Social media today is an absolute train wreck.

So it's wrong to point out the mess the tories are making? Not sure what point you're making.

 

[DavidDeSchmikes]

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[Zarlak]

Tory gains in Labour heartlands could change the direction of Tory policy. If they want honour the faith shown in them by folk who have voted labour all their lives they will need to move to the left and strengthen their social policies.

 

[MoskvaRed]

Much as I loathe Johnson, is this a better outcome than a small Tory majority? Not quite the same need to pander to the ERG. We might also see an effective opposition.

 

[Pexbo]

For all the criticisms of Corbyn and Labour, The Lib Dem’s who took a remain position are also going to lose some of the tiny handful of seats they hold.

It’s a right wing country.

 

[Zarlak]

Honestly my social media timelines for the last month have been packed with Labour voters mouthing off about how bad the Tories are.

Yet I know plenty of Tory voters and I didn’t see a single post from any of them tearing in to Labour.

Too many people on social media think because they go on a massive rant someone will suddenly change colours on Election Day.

Social media today is an absolute train wreck.

You live in a bubble then.

 

[Grinner]

Oh come off it, you insulted me and called me a tool for having the audacity to question the validity of your comments about pensions. Don't say cnuty things, yeah?

Got a link for that?

 

[Skills]

I feel sorry for Ireland most of all

Why? They're going to be the one winners surely?

 

[Ducklegs]

Ed Balls has become almost bearable since he lost his seat, he seems to be spending more time in the real world these days.

 

[Pexbo]

Much as I loathe Johnson, is this a better outcome than a small Tory majority? Not quite the same need to pander to the ERG. We might also see an effective opposition.

The ERG is expected to grow considerably tonight. It’s no longer just a handful of politicians, it’s a considerably faction.

 

[Jacko21]

Dan Jarvis IMO. Ex-Para, that alone will go a huge way to regaining public support in England.

Put money on him at one point, but has since chosen to become a mayor.

Not sure he wants the gig.

 

[Kentonio]

Much as I loathe Johnson, is this a better outcome than a small Tory majority? Not quite the same need to pander to the ERG. We might also see an effective opposition.

No, absolutely not. It means they can easily vote through some terrible, horrible things that are going to make the last 10 years look like a warm up exercise.

 

[Don't Kill Bill]

How cute

I warned you at least Dominic Cummings loves you tonight.

 

[RedSky]

you are a tool - I even stated in my post that this was in relation to pensions in this example. I’ve not claimed it was income tax.

One would have though you could understand an example where groups of people are disincentivized to work due to taxes shows that increasing income tax can stop people working.

Did you read the FT article?

@Grinner - It already got a warning.

 

[Pexbo]

Ed Balls has become almost bearable since he lost his seat, he seems to be spending more time in the real world these days.

It’s funny watching him interrupt Osbourne and Osbourne die a little inside that someone would have the temerity to interrupt him.

 

[FlawlessThaw]

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[balaks]

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Deluded

 

[Drifter]

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Exactly .Amazing all these centrists who have had to bite their tongue for so long ,smell blood now and are already lining up their Blair 2.0

 

[Ubik]

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Can't do much but laugh.

 

[Grinner]

Much as I loathe Johnson, is this a better outcome than a small Tory majority? Not quite the same need to pander to the ERG. We might also see an effective opposition.

I think so. We'll finally get to find out if Brexit is a good idea or not. They have no excuses now and will own the outcome. At least Britain is driving straight off the cliff rather than stumbling along the edge.

 

[Boycott]

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They just don't get it.

The UK is a right-wing leaning country. The older voters are living longer, tilt heavily conservative, and vote for what's in their interests tomorrow. Not for ten years from now.

This is the problem I also have with left-wing activism through Twitter.

Twitter is not reflective of real life. If any social media is it is Facebook which is more older, tilt conservative and more powerful.