I just can't do this anymore.
UK General Election - 12th December 2019 | Con 365, Lab 203, LD 11, SNP 48, Other 23 - Tory Majority of 80
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There's no Brexit party other than the Tories in Scotland. If you want to get Brexit done you had to vote for them. Only a quarter of the population did, primarily in the border areas.
I see it as an damning indictment on May as much as corbyn.
How could she have fecked up losing this majority just two years ago.
How could she have fecked up losing this majority just two years ago.
This might be good for you. The Tories are no longer the party of the elite who can ignore the middle and poor. They'll want to keep their votes.
I don't care though because Scotland will be independent soon and we'll all get free unicorns.
I don't care though because Scotland will be independent soon and we'll all get free unicorns.
She is a woman who was a remainer (albeit not a hardline one).
She also massively disenfranchised the base with her (quite sensible) social care policy.
OMFG a heavily disabled girl on BBC has voted Conservative 
She must be from a rich aristocratic family as there's no fecking other way unless this country has gone to total shit.
She must be from a rich aristocratic family as there's no fecking other way unless this country has gone to total shit.
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Possibly but I'm thinking more that she would never have had the same appeal in the Northern heartlands that Johnson did.
How are you feeling on this bleak day, mate?
C'mon, this is the kind of unkindness that just isn't helpful.OMFG a heavily disabled girl on BBC has voted Conservative
She must be from a rich aristocratic inbred family as there's no fecking other way unless this country has gone to total shit.
Brexit feels tangible to working class voters that don't trust politicians. 'They're all liars' is something I've read a thousand times recently. If there is one thing any politician has said this election that I truly believe, it's that Brexit would be delivered by a Conservative government. Shortly followed by various Corbyn statements and very little else from the Tories. It looks like many others have thought the same and grabbed an opportunity to say they've taken control.
The worry here for me as a Labour voter is that Boris has an opportunity here to deliver on a promise and make reference to that for a long time. If the execution isn't perfect they may leave a door open for Brexit, but they'll be able to say you can trust us for many years.
The worry here for me as a Labour voter is that Boris has an opportunity here to deliver on a promise and make reference to that for a long time. If the execution isn't perfect they may leave a door open for Brexit, but they'll be able to say you can trust us for many years.
Not all disabilities are visible.OMFG a heavily disabled girl on BBC has voted Conservative
She must be from a rich aristocratic inbred family as there's no fecking other way unless this country has gone to total shit.
This post has no place here. Some people might want to stop away for a while. You are seriously abusing a disabled girl for expressing her democratic right?OMFG a heavily disabled girl on BBC has voted Conservative
She must be from a rich aristocratic inbred family as there's no fecking other way unless this country has gone to total shit.
What do you think the chances are that Boris will say "no" to Sturgeon? If I'm right, and there's a first time for everything I guess, the SNP vote share in Scotland was bigger than the Tories in the UK. So if this election shows that there's a mandate for Brexit then it could be argued that the mandate for IndyRef 2 is also there.
This really isn’t a good look mate.OMFG a heavily disabled girl on BBC has voted Conservative
She must be from a rich aristocratic inbred family as there's no fecking other way unless this country has gone to total shit.
Throughout human history men with morals have mostly lost the popular vote.
The mandate for brexit was the 2016 referendum, the mandate for no second indyref was the first indyref and all the once in a generation pish. Surely its only the tories who tell lies, certainly not the SNP.
This is not a good post.OMFG a heavily disabled girl on BBC has voted Conservative
She must be from a rich aristocratic inbred family as there's no fecking other way unless this country has gone to total shit.
My party lost, my family in England are fecked. I hope the Tories at least loosen their "feck the poor" attitudes now that they have a chance to keep their votes, and my country has a chance to vote for Independence from the union again - which I've always said I could only support if the Tories were in governance.
So, tbh, it's bittersweet but mainly bitter for everyone else but sweet for Scotland. Difficult to digest.
What about yourself?
I'm not abusing her. I made an assesment based on what she was saying. Disabled people have died because of the policies this government has inflicted on them. How can someone who has suffered through that support it? Its inconcievable unless she hasn't.
I removed the inbred comment that was clearly a mistake fuelled by high emotion.
Then what was this election about, and why is Boris coming out today and saying that this shows the country wants to get on with Brexit? He wanted to break the deadlock, to confirm what's already been confirmed allegedly.
His entire election strategy has been "if you want Brexit Done vote for me". The SNP have also focused on IndyRef2 this election. A lot can happen in three years, polling suggests that the appetite for IndyRef has changed in that time too.
You look overseas, to similar countries. It's a favourite example of socialists but you cant use Scandinavia because we dont have a massive oil fund paying for everything, and we did have a costly rebuild after WW2. We also don't have the rabid patriotism that would keep many Americans captive if they ever raised taxes.
Countries with exorbitantly high tax rates always struggle, and will do so even more as it gets easier to move around the world.
I think all the leftists and liberals from around the world should create another country and migrate there and leave the nutjobs to themselves.OMFG a heavily disabled girl on BBC has voted Conservative
She must be from a rich aristocratic inbred family as there's no fecking other way unless this country has gone to total shit.
Is this true? I've not been in Scotland during the campaign but Ruth Davidson said the SNP specifically said a vote for them wasn't a vote for independence (although that sounds barmy).
I'm fed up with everyone having a pop at the Royal family just because of Prince Andrew.OMFG a heavily disabled girl on BBC has voted Conservative
She must be from a rich aristocratic inbred family as there's no fecking other way unless this country has gone to total shit.
Ruth Davidson is being disingenuous.
Putting aside the ‘inbred’ insult, the other thing people find offensive is the idea that disabled people are some monolithic block of people who should all vote the same way and are incapable of forming different political opinions or having personal agency.
They'd end up tearing themselves apart all the same.
Or all fecking off and voting tory
Well, Sturgeon made it her headline any time she was on TV. It's been their narrative for months. Ruth Davidson wants to maintain the union, she's just giving her "interpretation" of the truth
The election was about parliament not doing what the mandate required, so getting a parliament that would. That's been achieved. The SNP has always wanted independence and that would remain if there was indy poll every week that they lost. We as a nation have lots to do now we finally have and workable parliament. After brexit and the dust settles and there is some sort of reasonable gap between elections and referendums it could be revisited but there are priorities before more reruns in my opinion.
100% is my guess. I don’t think he will even entertain her.
Her argument will be that she has a mandate, but she doesn’t, because there is no legal requirement for a referendum.
she needs to be seen to be pushing for it, and she will. By the way, I fundamentally disagree with the SNP, but she’s a very effective politician.
But even if (and it won’t happen) there was a will for another referendum, it would have to be after the dust has settled on the UK leaving the EU, and agreeing the future relationship and implementing that relationship. Whilst the agreement may be complete within a year, the implementation period would likely to be a couple more years.
it would be reckless and improbable for the UK to be leaving the EU, and for Scotland to leave the union and try to rejoin the EU in parallel.
I don't deny that. Funnily enough, we need to now Get Brexit Done for the majority (minus Scotland) before anything else can Get Done (such as Tartan Tuesdays becoming a national holiday)
This post really saddens me. After playing such an active role in working to try to get a Labour victory I can sympathise with the disappointment of the poster and understand the frustration.OMFG a heavily disabled girl on BBC has voted Conservative
She must be from a rich aristocratic family as there's no fecking other way unless this country has gone to total shit.
It also demonstrates why the electorate will never have any love or affinity with those from momentum who now call the shots.....totally disgusting
Tbf she did the groundwork and we knew more about Brexit and certainly the positions of parties in 2019 than we did in 2017.
Whoever followed Cameron up would've had a nightmare.
Sorry but if you have a party that cuts your benefits, your carers allowance, and humiliates you to the point of having to prove your disability through a work assesment stacked against you what though process could you possibly go through to support that. Unless of course it hasn't affected you!
I wonder if the two can be done side by side in the event of a referendum? Tories say "look - we're focusing on this but if you want to you can take these crayons and sugar paper up to your room and draw your own plans up. If they're any good we'll stick them on the fridge. Now feck off".
Yeah, you're right. Not going to happen until this thing gets sorted out.
There's a feeling in Wales, in my opinion, that we've thus far avoided the sort of major immigration waves that have hit other parts of the UK.........thus far, being the key. I worked for a very left-wing organisation here in Cardiff, name withheld, until recently.
My colleagues were 95% I'd say, from a very 'white Welsh middle class' background. Vast majority of the place, we had 1-2 Europeans working there who would actually comment on how white and Welsh the organisation was.
It was quite common to hear these middle-class self-proclaimed 'lefties' make casual comments referring to seeing 'a lot of them nowadays' in Cardiff city centre - referring of course, to what they perceived as 'obvious' immigrants. Obvious meaning, skin colour.
I honestly think a lot of people, just associate the letters 'EU' with unstoppable, increasing immigration and that's what Corbyn and Labour were standing for in some people's eyes.
My colleagues were 95% I'd say, from a very 'white Welsh middle class' background. Vast majority of the place, we had 1-2 Europeans working there who would actually comment on how white and Welsh the organisation was.
It was quite common to hear these middle-class self-proclaimed 'lefties' make casual comments referring to seeing 'a lot of them nowadays' in Cardiff city centre - referring of course, to what they perceived as 'obvious' immigrants. Obvious meaning, skin colour.
I honestly think a lot of people, just associate the letters 'EU' with unstoppable, increasing immigration and that's what Corbyn and Labour were standing for in some people's eyes.
There won't be any prospect of a second Indyref until after the Holyrood elections. No doubt about that.
Johnson's a character. He plays up to the act of being affable whereas May was awful in campaigning beyond a robotic stump speech.
No @Fiskey, that’s because as I say, people live much longer for a start, 80% of all the pressures on housing and the NHS are due to this and the UK already having a massive population for it’s size, something which they needed in order to maintain an empire. The other 20% is made up by poor government funding, right to buy (Tory), people owning 2-30 houses/flats and austerity.
It amazes me that people still think “them imgrants” are the issue when talking about this, it’s so stupid it’s hard to fathom.
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