UK Riots (with the exception of Manchester which has its own thread)

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:lol: ha ha, ive seen that before. Well remembered.
 
Lots of big groups gathering across London, whether it will really kick off remains to be seen
 
I kind of agree, but I do worry a little that a myth has been destroyed... the myth that the authorities are in control and a bunch of yobs can't just take over at will.
Now the cat is out of the bag I can't see why this won't recur every summer... a bit like Big Brother.

This is the way I'm thinking on it at the moment. I hear what Mocks and a few other posters are saying but this seems to be quite a new and extremely efficient approach to causing trouble. I don't think for a second that those who were involved will have a re-think or a change of heard and so I don't know what will stop them from repeat attacks.

They've managed to shut the feckin city down for God sakes. They've done a better job than the last bleedin snow fall !
 
then they would send the army in - the police got caught with their knickers down last night in London - too many incidents - but you are right if it happened on a regular basis something permanent would be done
 
Staff from the Crown Prosecution Service are out on the streets with police crews at likely riot scenes to provide "on-the-spot charging advice". Thank God!!
 
Tonight is pivotal.

I read earlier on twitter that the police are suggesting that people get off the streets by 7PM. If that is true (it may not be given how much shit has been spouted on twitter) then it suggests a massive operation tonight with this 16,000 strong police force.

What does that mean? Will they go in heavy handed, or be passive and just try and deter the violence with the numbers game. I would like to think that tonight they clean up the mess and really take it to the rioting cnuts, but hearing what Theresa May said earlier about not using the water cannons gives me little hope.

Maybe they will just go for a massive kettling operation?
 
Hopefully you're right Mocks. I truly want what you say to be true. I think it's just because of what happened to us last night that put me into paranoia mode. I just want all this shit to end so shops can open back up so I can get beer by Friday evening

What happened to you sounded horrible Kinks, I'm sure it's shaken you up. But you were very unlucky, not targeted.. And look, I could be completely wrong, it could all get demonstrably worse and i'll look pretty silly, but theres no real politics behind this. It isn't the arab spring. They're looting shit. I know what a lot of the kids around here are like, and (IMO) their motivation isn't sticking it to the man, that's merely an excuse that sounds plausible for a bit of smash & grab and uneducated release of unfocused anger....Once people start getting arrested and communities start saying enough (like those Turks did last night, and my ends did with the clean up - which was also a bit of a demonstration - today) and when support for the police grows (which it's already doing dramatically, taking huge focus off the Duggen enquiry) they'll leave off.....The Police will be out in force tonight and progressively throughout other cities over the coming days, and it'll die down and then there'll be a bit social post mortem...

The only people that are really in danger are the police.

Pervert.... by the way is this your upload? Why is the link name 'sweatybabyjesus' that's disturbing dude.

Yes...It was an old Pub Quiz Team name. Came about by my mate unintentionally spelling "sweet baby jesus" wrong on the form.
 
no when the snow fell last time - all the buses were cancelled - last night i had to wait an extra ten minutes for a bus. got from north greenwich into greenwich and back out eventually and i only saw one bus that was damaged
 
Tonight is pivotal.

I read earlier on twitter that the police are suggesting that people get off the streets by 7PM. If that is true (it may not be given how much shit has been spouted on twitter) then it suggests a massive operation tonight with this 16,000 strong police force.

What does that mean? Will they go in heavy handed, or be passive and just try and deter the violence with the numbers game. I would like to think that tonight they clean up the mess and really take it to the rioting cnuts, but hearing what Theresa May said earlier about not using the water cannons gives me little hope.

Maybe they will just go for a massive kettling operation?
We don't have any water cannon in the uk

Instead of contain, film and charge tomorow they won't sit back and let sites get looted, they'll move in numbers to move the crowds on
 
Reports that in my local town, Maidstone, the KFC is in flames. Apparently this is due to a Chip Pan fire however.
 
I kind of agree, but I do worry a little that a myth has been destroyed... the myth that the authorities are in control and a bunch of yobs can't just take over at will.
Now the cat is out of the bag I can't see why this won't recur every summer... a bit like Big Brother.

I kind of feel that way too. A lot of the control police have over the populace is based on a bit of an illusion. An illusion that's just been shattered,

Well the fact that the police have stood off in the last few days is largely down to the fact that there are a lot of high profile criticisms of Police brutality, overly aggressive tactics, or (as in the duggen case) possible murder...The public weren't behind the police...Now, they are. The looters have managed to basically feck up their one safe guard, which is the sympathy of liberal society to the abuse of the underclass....Now, the instinct reaction of most people is "Sort this shit out" with talk of rubber bullets, water cannons etc....If that comes to pass, there's no chance this will continue every summer. They won't chance this. No ones behind them and they aren't doing it to make a political point/destroy society...They're doing it, in their own words "To get free stuff"
 
I've always read that name as pauldy son.

I feel so thick

Don't worry everyone has.

It's why I revel so much in writing it out as Paul Dyson.

It is a revelation to us all.
 
Although apparently civil unrest is happening throughout the medway towns: BBC News - Cars set alight during disturbances in Medway towns

Cars were damaged and set alight during disturbances involving youths in the Medway towns area of Kent.

Kent Police said the first incident took place at 20:30 BST when there were confrontations between youths and officers in Gillingham High Street.

Firefighters were called to three car fires in New Street, Maidstone Road and Eldon Street in Chatham between 00:55 BST and 01:30 BST on Tuesday.

"Their aim was to try and create chaos, and they failed in that, thanks to swift and robust police action.

"By deploying considerable resources to the Medway area we swiftly managed to contain the incidents and have arrested significant numbers of people in connection with the criminal damage.

"Thankfully, no-one was injured, but this has caused serious damage to innocent residents' property.

"Preparations are also under way for any further outbreaks of violence and we will be monitoring the transport networks and streets to ensure further disruption or criminality is contained."

Chris Smalling went to Chatham Grammar School.
 

How so? Have you elevated him to the main authority behind all this?..How would you know?



Posts from rioters

If you're down for making money, we're about to go hard in east london tonight, yes tonight!! I don't care what ends you're from, we're personally inviting you to come and get it in. Police have taken the pss for too long and to be honest I don't know why its taken so long for us make this happen. We need a minimum of 200 hungry people. We're not broke, but who says no to free stuff. Doesn't matter if the police arrive cos we'll just chase dem out because as you've seen on the news, they are NOT ON *** TING. Finders keepers and we all look after each other so if you see someone getting grab by feds then make sure we help stamp out that fuking PIG. M.O.B money over bobbies =D broadcast this to everyone you know and let's get paid!! RE SEND. LONDON MESSAGE"




The actual rioters > You & Darcus Howe.

Though incidentally I do think there are several socio and economic factors at the very root of this, and I think this kind of thing has been coming for a while in London. There are certain things I do agree with Howe on. There'll be a post mortem over this no doubt. But I don't agree that this is an uprising of the black youth because of the actions of the police...It's overwhelmingly opportunism with that used as an excuse..I've met a few rioters in the last couple days...it's "bre's having bare joke init".
 
Apparently theres tons of skinheads gathered outside of pubs waiting for a confrontation with the looters in London. This could get even uglier. Sigh.